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4 hours ago, Petey11 said:

Looking at the reports on the dashboard before it was stopped nearly all the positive were coming from walk-ins so I'd say there is very little proactive testing going on anyway. As mentioned by others it seems they are doing everything to try and limit the shown numbers. Anecdotally I believe covid is starting to show in Pattaya now in the bar areas.

Nick Dean in his last YouTube address said omicron is rife in Pattaya. Phuket no doubt will be the same.

2 punters went into the Triangle bar in Soi Chaiapom and it just ran through the bar.

Now 6 girls tested positive and doing hospital quarantine. Triangle closed until further notice.

Triangle is open sided and a band where back playing.

Chonburi is due to have a meeting today.

Thailand now is not just playing their own population for complete mugs but also visiting tourists.

To the best of my knowledge you have to do a pre departure test to leave Thailand.

Let's see how that works out for folks in an alice in wonderland country with 3000 odd covid cases.

It's criminal misinformation and deliberate falsification of what is actually happening on the ground.

It's not calm in Pattaya.

Triangle Bar, off Soi Bukahow, has had 6 members of staff taken into hospital quarantine after testing positive for covid. Part of the SHA+ accreditation is regular staff testing.

Bar has been shut until further notice.

Nick Dean was saying that omicron is everywhere in Pattaya and that Chonburi are having a meeting today. He expects restrictions to come back in.

One minute the Scandinavians are whingeing their banged up because they can't read the Test-Wait-Maybe-Go-Hospital small print and then the next bunch of ABBA lovers think everythings calm.

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Also now backed up by a new study just released from South Africa:

 

5. Which % of people who tested + for #COVID19 got admitted to hospital in the different waves?

- Wave 2 (Beta): 18.9% (7,774/41,046)

- Wave 3 (#Delta): 13.7% (4,574/33,423)

- Wave 4 (#Omicron): 4.9% (6,510/133,551)

 

6. Which % of #COVID19 hospital patients had severe disease?

- Wave 2 (Beta): 60.1% (4,672/7,774)

- Wave 3 (#Delta): 66.9% (3,058/4,574)

- Wave 4 (#Omicron): 28.8% (1,276/4,438) [2,072/ 6,510 patients = a not a documented hospital outcome when the study = submitted]

 

8. % of #COVID19 patients needing supplemental oxygen:

- Wave 2 (Beta): 39.4% (3,063/7,774)

- Wave 3 (#Delta): 48.8% (2,231/4,574)

- Wave 4 (#Omicron): 19.7% (875/4,438)

 

9. Median hospital stay:

- Wave 2 (Beta): 7 days

- Wave 3 (#Delta): 8 days

- Wave 4 (#Omicron): 4 days

 

10. % of cases (of total admissions) admitted among children + teens below 20 years:

- Wave 2 (Beta): 3.9% (306/7,774)

- Wave 3 (#Delta): 3.5% (161/4,574)

- Wave 4 (#Omicron): 17.7% (1,151/6,510)

 

Study Link from Lancet preprint

Apparently the 4th wave was the exit wave for the 1918 influenza pandemic.

Let's hope history repeats itself for this pandemic's 4th wave.

41 minutes ago, Olmate said:

No idea how that rant relates to todays increase in numbers. 

I am saying the figures are BS based on incomplete and low levels of testing.

Sorry if you couldn't understand that.

Khon Kaen banning alcohol in restaurants from January 1 - 7.

Chonburi, allegedly, is having a meeting tomorrow to do something similar.

This will get the tourists flooding back.

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Contracting Omicron may not significantly raise vaccinated patient’s immunity against Delta: doctor

 

It may be too soon to be excited by findings by South African scientists that patients who had been vaccinated against Covid-19 and then contracted Omicron had developed significantly stronger immunity against the Delta variant, said Dr Anan Jongkaewwatana from the National Centre for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology.

In a Facebook post on Thursday, Anan said the South African study titled “Omicron infection enhances neutralising immunity against the Delta variant”, which has not been peer-reviewed, could be inconclusive due to too small a number of examples – only 13.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40010613

https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/17132807/britain-successful-covid-booster-rollout/

Only 3 countries bettering the UK worldwide.

Heading towards 60% boosted, Thailand about 8%.

Once again the cutting edge of Thai science/maths/statistics show it's head.

Useless.

33 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The sex addicts who make up the bulk of Pattaya's visitors.

LOL.

As usual you seem totally out of touch.

Main strip of Soi Made In Thailand  raised to the ground.

Most of the beer bar complexes raised to the ground.

Most of Walking Street boarded up/for rent/for sale.

Sausage Fest around Tree Town/Soi Bukahow. Join the queue to stir the porridge.

Virtually, all bars open illegally.

Last drink 11pm. Closed by 12am.

BIB unwritten rules or they will all be closed.

Most of LK Metro still closed.

Can't get a game of pool in the bars.

The good lookers won't be coming down from Isaan until bars/gogos/night clubs reopen properly.

At least they have a clue, unlike some of our correspondents on this forum.

UK furlough scheme 70% of wages during worst of pandemic.

Result - multi year low unemployment and  still falling when economy reopened.

Thailand - do nothing.

Throw a few useless token gestures to the peasantry, rice price low of 5 baht, let them eat frogs, field rats and fido if theirs nothing left.

Rack up even more debt on mortgages, cars, motorbikes and phones.

20% of GDP gone with a ridiculous Test-Wait-Maybe-Go-Hospital scheme to pretend we give a fiddlers.

Top 5% of Thai society gets richer, keeping up our stellar record of the most unequal distribution of wealth in SE Asia.

Well done.

Beyond laughable.

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

What makes South Africa data more reliable than the data coming out of the UK? I agree it looks positive there and hope that will be replicated here but its not yet a slam dunk. 

 

UK hospital data is broken down into variants and published on a daily basis. On the 27th it was 407 and the latest on the 28th is now up to 668 hospitalizations for Omicron with 49 deaths, you will find details in the reports. These however are only the admissions that were actually sequenced, not everyone is sequenced.

 

For general covid admissions which include delta and Omicron plus incidental admissions then the best source for that recently is the COE of NHS Providers Chris Hopson, read his twitter thread here but I suggest you go to link as the thread is quite long

 

These are a few snippets

 

London data, in particular, is important as it’s been the clear epicentre of omicron up to now. Number of covid-19 patients in London hospitals has grown by 45% from 20 Dec to 27 Dec. There's currently a 14 day doubling time (1,360 on Dec 13 to 2,640 on Dec 27)

 

Talking to trust chief executives this morning, what’s very interesting is how many are talking about number of asymptomatic patients being admitted to hospital for other reasons and then testing positive for covid. Some are describing this as ‘incidental covid’

 

Trusts not, at moment, reporting large numbers of patients with severe Covid type respiratory problems needing critical care. Also not needing to massively increase use of oxygen. Both of which we saw in last Jan’s delta variant peak + very difficult critical care surge

In a forum desert of barstool unsubstantiated gossip, rumour and misinformation, your constant drawing us back to either published scientific facts or UK public health data is always appreciated @Bkk Brian

12 minutes ago, bdenner said:

Either this is complete nonsence or the insurance companies are cooking the books?

They have only reported a 1000 odd Omicron cases and how many of those patients actually have Covid insurance?

Or the Thai figures are complete BS.

UK and France 100K - 150K cases per day Thailand 2500 cases 

Do me a favour.

People aren't stupid.

We had the story of the Danish family yesterday, with the daughter being taken off to hospital for failing a test.

Area 39, a very popular bar near Treetown, Soi Bukahow, Pattaya has started ATK testing to get into the premises. They are not accepting proof of vaccination apparently.

Editor of the Pattaya News confirmed that if you fail that ATK test, an ambulance will be called and you will be taken to hospital.

Who in their right mind is going to travel 6,000 miles to put up with heads you win, tails your taken to hospital.

12 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Family  with daughter  right? Where does he thank authorities  for the help they have given his family?

LOL

If he is lucky, his insurance company will be paying for it.

You seem to be very naive about how things work in Thailand.

The hospital isn't doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. It's a commercial relationship between the hospital and his insurers. That's if his insurers are prepared to pay out on a asymptomatic basis.

Thailand isn't a developed country either it's a developing country with an appalling education system and the most unequal distribution of wealth of any SE Asian country.

I wouldn't get yourself worked about tourism returning anytime soon either.

Given the omicron variant's transmissibility and speed of infection, news of the Test-Wait-Maybe-Go-Hospital scheme is going to ensure a dribble of tourists.

Very unfortunate for 20% of GDP and the part of the Thai population dependant on it.

You can be rest assured however that "your developed" country will continue it's abysmal testing, vaccination and lack of support for the poorest in society.

No doubt many farangs, from developed countries, will continue to help those Thai citizens.

Please advise me where i can get a pair of your rose tinted divorced from reality glasses.