MrMojoRisin

35 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

...and he'll be arrested on the spot. 

Actually, the Thai society would be much better off without the likes of the Shinawatra gang. They can do better if their hearts are in it.

He’ll be returning as the father of the new Prime Minister, he’ll be fine. When he does arrive back in town, Thaksin will probably go watch Avatar at the local IMAX (large popcorn and coke - exorbitant cinema concession prices are also of no concern to Dr T).

15 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

I can imagine that Zimmerman fella hasn't a clue about Thai affairs as well....????

I love how you think calling Dylan by his birth name is clever. It isn’t. You aren’t.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agree. Do not pass Go, but straight from the plane to jail. He's already been convicted, I understand.

You understand very little.

Go read To Kill a Mockingbird.

Then you will understand.

On 1/28/2023 at 4:10 PM, zzaa09 said:

Yep. Same old cycle prevails. 

Too many don't wanna recognize the reality of how things have always worked here. 

Gibberish.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'

8 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

He won't be returning.

These waves of tabloid gossipy speculation is what they're looking for.

Distractions and sleight-of-hand are beneficial for their cause.

Gibberish.

The private jet is booked.

Daddy’s coming home.

6 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

Actually, if one really wanted to explore deeper, you might find that they're all electoral/political poison. 

Belonging to the same club.....sort to speak.

The nature of things.

Gibberish.

Thaksin is electoral gold - he wins votes.

The others are poison - couldn’t get elected to sh!t.

5 hours ago, bannork said:

Pravit is Thaksin's only hope. Without his support, and from those above, he has no hope of returning as a free man 

You underestimate Thaksin’s (and Yingluck’s) popularity and the public hatred of all those responsible for the last 8 years. Should we return to coloured street mobs - Reds will outnumber Yellows 100 to 1. Those above ain’t what they used to be, the democracy monument plaque will be restored. Thaksin will do as he pleases.

1 hour ago, bannork said:

You don't think Thaksin and Pheua Thai would join hands with Pravit and fellow coup supporters if it meant bringing Thaksin home?

Thaksin don’t need Prawit.

Everyone in the current regime is electoral poison. Nothing to be gained by linking up with (politically) dead men walking. The daughter will do just fine.

Will vengeance then be served???

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

You can't reverse a case which has been decided by the supreme court.

This is Thailand.

Constitutions are regularly reversed.

The case can be reversed / dismissed / thrown out with ease.

1 hour ago, bannork said:

Jatupon's a bit slow. It's been as plain as day ever since Thaksin's landslide win back at the beginning of the millennium that he has no interest in democracy' it's not my goal', as he said.

The red shirts were simply one part of his arsenal, buying up as many MPs ( 80 MPs from NAP, if I recall right), was another. 

He once explained his political strategy to be like his phone business- dominate the market, take over rivals so opposition is weak.

Who can forget the pathetic spectacle of Jatupon, Nattawut and Viera negotiating with Abhisit about dissolving Parliament for an election but unable to reach a decision before the big boss, the man with the money, gave the go ahead.

The red shirts were always just a tool to enable Thaksin to return, the talk of democracy just a cover.

Pheua Thai would join Prawit at the drop of a hat if it meant Thaksin could come back. 

Advertised as reconciliation to move the country forward beyond the colour coded politics, the idealistic Red Shirts will turn their back on Thaksin, disgusted but the vast majority of rural red shirts won't give a flying fluck as long as the populist policies continue to flow 

 

Nonsense.

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Finally Jatuporn utters something sensible.

I never thought that could happen.

 

15 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

What sort of democracy are we speaking of?

One without 250 unelected Senators, where the courts aren’t used to ban opposition parties and candidates on trumped up charges and international observers are welcome at elections.

54 minutes ago, Adumbration said:

Anutin will be the new Prime Minister.  It is already decided by the person in charge.

 

It follows that the Bhumjaithai party will be selected as the winner of the election unless Anutin moves camp.

Is the person in charge really the person in charge anymore?

53 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

We keep taling about getting rid of the big money brown envelope politics.  That is part of what Thaksin was and is.

 

This want a government that is not going to be filled with corruption and shady deals.

 

The only way he should come back is to either face the charges or accept them,  Granting him and his sister immunity is not what is needed as it creates a precedence for every leader or politician before and after him.

It really is such a stupid premise you guys insist on regurgitating. Thailand’s transition to a less corrupt society is not going to happen overnight with the appearance of a white knight in shining armour, it will be gradual, a step by step building of institutional powers and resilience. First and foremost, democracy must be restored. Truth and Reconciliation worked wonderfully in South Africa when Mandela became president - I think it would be the best path forward here. Tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and face no punishment, fall short of this standard then you will be prosecuted and if guilty, jailed. Military dictatorship is the worst of all possible realities - by a long long way.

11 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

Here we go.....

To be expected. 

 

Same as it ever was.

The attempts may be the same, let’s just wait and see if the result is the same.

(ps - it won’t be)

1 hour ago, zzaa09 said:

Hmmmm....really.

What type of open and democratic society might this be? 

 

 

Actually, I don't believe there's such a beast that exist anywhere the world over - open and democratic. 

Of course you don’t, my backwards looking friend.

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Do you think we are all Yanks here?

What do you think I am blindly, or foolishly following?

 

What do conspiracy theories have to do with the facts I posted?

 

 

Are they facts though???

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

What has 'kool aid' got to do with anything? I'm not a Ynak, so have never drank it anyway. 

 

Not sure what you mean by 'tin foil hat', please explain. 

Happy to help:

36 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

You missed out the extra-judicial executions of 1000s of innocent people in his 2003 war on drugs. This alone is enough to ban him for ever. I remember his daughter when she was at the school I taught at in 1997 or so, around the time her father made billions by starting the Asian financial crisis when he was Deputy Prime minister or Minister of Finance in Big Jew's govt. 

I find it very sad when I hear many foreigners praise this guy, based on what they hear from their Isarn gf. Visas would still be 500 baht if it weren't for this guys xenophobic policies, which is funny as he is a typical Chinaman. 

You’ve imbibed too much of the kool aid. You’re meant to just sip it whilst wearing a tin foil hat.

26 minutes ago, robblok said:

At least its less then in the US and Thailand

 From the corruption perception index 8 out the first 10 countries are western Europe 

THe USA is not even in the top 10 but Nr 27 (no wonder you guys are used to corruption)

and Thailand 110 in that index 

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2021?gclid=CjwKCAiA5sieBhBnEiwAR9oh2hT9nObo1PGC9Asdk24c0-YhcE6QHrRb_-aPGq5gu7dG7HB5cPHwUxoCz_UQAvD_BwE

 

The point is this, corruption exists in every society no matter what the political structure. Societies with free speech, a free press, rule of law and a functioning multi party democracy have lower levels of corruption. 
Why on earth would you want to deny Thailand the above mentioned anti corruption mechanisms by pretending there is no difference between elected governments and juntas?

BTW - I am not American, you’re wrong again.