Sanookmike

I can't recommend any as I've never used them but if I was you I'd be looking to have a PCR done at the hospital in Bangkok seeing as your time is running short.

I'm not sure how you would go about it Thailand, I have just arranged mine from the UK. Lots of services online and it's pretty cheap around £30, they send you a antigen test with code printed on it. You just take it with you and when you decide to return you do the test, take a photo of the result and they email you a result notification signed by a doctor. The websites explain in more detail but that's basically it... You will be asked to show it at check in, airline may refuse boarding but legally they shouldn't. UK says you can board but you will get a fine think it's £500 same as the passenger locator form.

It would seem then despite our bickering we somewhat agree.. I've not said anything is concrete either, only stated the theory that viruses generally get weaker and the science so far that says its looking milder etc and what that could mean. Fully accept that in a months time things could be very different. Clearly I'm optimistic but that doesn't mean im being selective etc if things turn I'll be here making a post saying so.

States right here tho that the patients where admitted for non covid reasons and was later tested posted. Those ppl are more likely to have died from the actual thing they went in for, not saying you are wrong but we need more information. "The main observation that we have made over the last two weeks is that the majority of patients in the COVID wards have not been oxygen dependent. SARS-CoV-2 has been an incidental finding in patients that were admitted to the hospital for another medical, surgical or obstetric reason."

Agreed I haven't said anyone should be not have a vaccine.. quite the opposite. This still doesn't take from the damage lockdowns do it's well known that ppl went without care and illness's went untreated. You can just go back and look at all their predictions.. they are all massively inflated and have never come to fruition. They should just stick to reporting actual facts rather than their "predictions". One issue with the SA study available that ppl are not mentioning when looking at hospitaliaztion's is that majority in that paper where admitted to hospital for non covid reasons and omicron was picked up after as they test as part of procedure when admitted. More data is needed... Saying that of today still 536 cases in the UK and still not one person in hospital. Looking good for countries with higher vaccine uptake.

Guardian article isn't fear mongering and saying 100,000 cases a day are coming. Theres nothing about the article that is misleading so I'm happy to share it. It's been discussed in parliament today and there is no hospitaliaztion's in relation to omicron in the UK.

New "stealth" version.. so two omicrons now, undetectable by the PCR's we are using. Not really any data yet but could act differently. This could be good or bad jury is still out https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/07/scientists-find-stealth-version-of-omicron-not-identifiable-with-pcr-test-covid-variant

Yeah the restrictions do more harm than good, the cost out ways the purpose. Slowing the spread won't stop it spreading, But it will ensure a lot of ppl don't get treatment for cancers and as well as the economic issues losing businesses etc. Media is to blame for ppl panicking for sure, doom and gloom sells better. They mentioned today on BBC news the UK has around 400 confirmed cases today and it's going to double everyday.. Predicting 100,000 case a day by January. Sounds bad but this is based on no data and they have been wrong everytime with these predictions. They don't mention that of the 400 cases today in the UK not one is in hospital.

What are you eating? You say no junk food but you still could be eating rich fatty stuff... As someone else said tho it does sound like beer considering you say you exercise...

Can't he just do the expensive one at the airport? Results in 3 hours.. not all is lost yet if he really wants to go

These figures where always a bit of a dream.. despite what he thinks the restrictions in Thailand are putting ppl off, thous along side with possible restrictions at your home country would have anyone second guessing if they should travel. 2 tests to get in and now for most places 2 to get home.. the prospect of trying to arrange a PCR test in Thailand before returning is just something that ppl can't be bothered with whilst trying to enjoy a holiday. What a nightmare it would be if you tested positive 2 days before you should be traveling home...

Also brought this up yesterday in the other thread its a good thing means it's looking like it is going to be weaker etc ,which is what I've said all along and is following the general path of the virus becoming weaker over time. Highly infectious with a low mortality rate means quick mass herd immunity.. we have to just hope ppl don't start dropping dead.

Please see your direct quote.. you clearly stated that the info in the video came from a twittter thread. The main study source was show in the video and links provided with encouragement to go and read it for yourself. Anyone who cared to watch the video had access to the link of the main study. You seemed to imply that my conclusions are based condensed data when we are looking at the same thing.

News today that it may have picked up a common cold gene in the mutation looks good, but we will know more in the next few weeks. I think we all knew it had already spread and would only be a matter of time before it popped up in Thailand. Judging from how they handle things I'm guessing lockdowns again soon.

Yeah that is worrying hopefully it remains mild and long covid isn't a problem. We are all going to be exposed at some point and we will see deaths rise but the rates should be compared to the infection/case rate and considering that stays low in relation, it could signal that this is nearly over. (Optimism lol) Just have to watch the figures and hope none of the kids get seriously ill...

Not at all no answer is science is infinite.. I would like to stress that things look good now according to the data available, that could sill change as more data comes in. I feel that by just being rational I've been put into the anti Vax/virus denier camp.. when I'm just doing what is advised and following the science. Some on here are just sharing the same charts and having a "big number bad" mentally with out any context as to where they fit in current larger picture.

Haha no it doesn't come from a Twitter thread... and ppl have accused me of spreading misinformation. He goes through the main study that you linked.. and also linked to it in the description of the video????. As with all of his videos he goes through the main studies with you. Anyone can just go check the video we are talking about and see your wrong... Made your self look a bit silly Why lie?? He also states it's a snapshot profile as it says in the study.. However I understand that you prob didn't watch it all before making your comment.

I find if funny that ppl jump on he's a ex nurse ingnoring that he has a degree in science, biology and a master's in health science along with research degree Dr of philosophy... There's no misinformation here when its looking bad he tells you and most importantly shows you current science/data as to why and when it looks good he does the same.

High cases and high infection rate is not being debated...

Probably.. the soft drink (coke) they add is just for sweetness so can't see why not.

Yes if you watch what I posted it has very low hospitaliaztion's, Dr Campbell isn't a conspiracy theorists or virus denier. Its looking good for a fast and wide spread herd immunity.

It was the the theory at the start of the pandemic, now its looking to stay around like flu. My point it that it will mutate into a nothing illnesses and we will live with it like flu. Which is what we should be doing now. Also turns out that immunity itself it not the same between each country, it's about imprints. So rising cases in SA doesn't mean much for the UK etc. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/03/calm-omicron-uks-immunity-different-south-africas-says-expert/ You can bypass the need to subscribe to read by stopping the page loading once you see the text and before the subscription box come up ????

" "SARS-CoV-2, of course, is well past the teetering stage. The big question now is: What happens next? One popular theory, endorsed by some experts, is that viruses often start off harming their hosts, but evolve toward a more benign coexistence. After all, many of the viruses we know of that trigger severe problems in a new host species cause mild or no disease in the host they originally came from. And from the virus’s perspective, this theory asserts, hosts that are less sick are more likely to be moving around, meeting others and spreading the infection onward. “I believe that viruses tend to become less pathogenic,” says Burtram Fielding, a coronavirologist at the University of the Western Cape, South Africa. “The ultimate aim of a pathogen is to reproduce, to make more of itself. Any pathogen that kills the host too fast will not give itself enough time to reproduce.” If SARS-CoV-2 can spread faster and further by killing or severely harming fewer of the people it infects, we might expect that over time, it will become less harmful — or, as virologists term it, less virulent." https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-viruses-evolve-180975343/

Agreed you are entitled to your opinion too, I never meant it to be demeaning.. Basic was the keyword to take note of and stand by what I said, that is the general progression of a virus.

The process I described is basic micro biology there was no attempt to "troll" anyone. It may never go away like flu but it will become a nothing illness like flu, which has been my point all along. What about every vairant between D and O?, Have they spread and killed everyone.