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3 hours ago, rudi49jr said:Me too. Spent a few very good winters in Chiang Mai in the eighties and nineties, and even planned to retire there. Then came back twice, in the winters of 2007/2008 and 2011/2012, and got bronchitis both times. Needless to say I haven’t been back since.
Myself and several friends developed health issues from the pollution, and my doctor told me to get out ASAP!
simply not worth it.
too many places to retire.
Don’t understand the draw of Chang nobyl!????????♂️????????♂️????
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3 hours ago, rudi49jr said:This is the PM10 count today in northern Thailand. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it this bad. And Dear Leader said he was going to put a stop to this….
Sure glad I got the hell out of there and
never made the
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Great retirement destination!
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My sister recently visited northern Thailand. She said it was terrible, never to return because of the pollution. She went to the east coast of Vietnam, hue,danang Hoi an , air quality index was 13. Having a great time!
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Living the dream in Thailand!????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Never seen an expat admit to the bad air in Chang mai? ????????♂️????????
stay indoors, wear a mask, buy a fourth air purifier, , it’s not so bad, I can see across the street. Glad I moved here , it’s a great place! Cough cough
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Family friendly resort, world class!
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Vlad will react?
he said that a year ago!
react to nato sending ammo
react to nato sending air defence
teact to nato sending drones
react to nato sending tanks
etc etc
Total BS
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8 hours ago, attento said:If I was in the situation that many Russian men are in, I am sure I would be considering to relocate, if I had the resources.
What about the young men from poor backgrounds who have no option but stay in Russia ?
They have not chosen their political leaders.
Fact is a large percentage of Russian people are for the war!
just remember, Putin ain’t shootin!
I wish nothing but horrendous suffering to every Russian man woman and child!
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2 hours ago, kingstonkid said:
Why don't they simply say west of the Chao Praya?
Was at Sala Deng this morning and mid day air quality was normal to me.
That’s because you are so used to pollution, hazardous or dangerous air quality levels seem normal!
don’t kid yourself!????????????????♂️
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The bright lights of Asia wore of pretty quickly. I had free health care thru work, but realized I was in anything but a step backwards, back to Canada and live the snow bird dream, so many nice places to visit.
but nothing compares to waking up and breathing clean air, drinking clean tap water. Walking down a sidewalk that’s not broken, no hanging wires, no wild packs of feral dogs laying around, clean food and restaurants inspected by the health department, being able to cross the street and cars actually stop.
going fishing, hunting in my backyard! Didn’t realize how good I had it till I landed back home!
true paradise!
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20 hours ago, arithai12 said:
I don;t want to excuse the problem of PM2.5 in Chiang Mai, which is an absolute shame.
But you should not take literally what click-hungry reporters feed you.
117 / 23 = 5. But 5 is the WHO recommended guideline for annual mean, while on a daily basis it is 15. We still exceed that by a lot, I know, but not by 23 times.
And, CM air is relatively ok in PM2.5 terms for most of the year outside the critical 2 months.
But again, yes, at this time of the year better stay away from CM.
2 months a year, maybe 10 years ago, not recently since I left, it’s a polluted <deleted> hole
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On 3/6/2023 at 8:40 PM, brewsterbudgen said:
Yes, of course I can imagine that! It might be strange to you, but there are tens of thousands of foreign or mixed Thai/foreign families living in Thailand! Where do you suggest they go if their jobs, families are here?
Perhaps to a country destination where their children can grow up without being subjected to deadly air quality?
but perhaps some peoples children aren’t that important?
lots of jobs around the world for professionals!thete had never been a time for such demand!
Unless we backed ourselves into a corner with no plan b?
nasty situation to be in, now isn’t it Brew?
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2 hours ago, BayArea said:
In the " Why has Thailand attracted more foreign tourists than Vietnam" thread, some posters claimed the air pollution is so much better than VN.
Below is the real time air quality around the world:
Air Pollution in World: Real-time Air Quality Index Visual Map (aqicn.org)
I have spent much time on the eastern side of Vietnam, the air is by far some of the cleanest in SEA.
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It’s only 23 times higher than the WHO guidelines? That’s not so bad the expats say. Just don’t go outdoors, breathe beside your air purifiers, wear a mask, I’m so happy I retired here????????????????♂️????????♂️????????????
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2 hours ago, anchadian said:There's nobody on here that can help. I would suggest therefore you go and see a doctor if you're concerned.
Many doctors lawyers green berets, SAS members, etc on this forum.
why pay for a doctor with all the professional advice here?????????♂️
and it’s all free!I mean it’s nothing serious, only his health!
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On 3/5/2023 at 12:43 AM, brewsterbudgen said:
It's horrible. But 60,000,000 live here, so you put up with it.
Can you imagine someone actually raising a family and subjecting their children to this filth!
what kind of a human would want to do this?
I can understand Thais, having no where else to go, but a foreigner?
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And people continue to Say its only bad for a month!????????????
I’ve lived there, don’t BS me!
Just because you can see across the street doesn’t make it good.
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20 hours ago, wwest5829 said:Why not if I allow for the burning months? The majority of the year is great to travel in the mountainous North. The life I have is quite enjoyable and has been for over a decade now in the Lanna North.
The majority is great, and the other months are dangerous and toxic!
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can’t fix stupid now can we?I was one that also tried to convince myself what a great place it was.
but got the hell out of dodge before I suffered more health issues.
but far too many beautiful places in the world with no poison air!
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10 hours ago, wwest5829 said:
Inside my house, then inside the car, then inside the Mall, restaurant, store. The big thing missing? Outdoor activities … hiking, swimming, zip line … but at age 76, been there, done that. Still, advice for anyone I care about … no, “unhealthy”!
Perhaps if you didn’t live in such an unhealthy environment, you would still be hiking, etc, and enjoying yourself outdoors instead of the life you have?
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6 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:
Last year, vacated Chiang Mai for a month in Koh Samui. This year a month abroad. I cannot, will not recommend anyone visiting Chiang Mai, presently. I stay inside mostly.
Sounds like a great place!
stay inside?
living the dream!
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Living the retirement dream in Chang nobyl?
air quality is deadly!
why would anyone try to convince themselves it’s a great place?
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Fact is, the Thai men hate foreigners!
they love a good beat down!
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It would be a cold day in hell before an Ivan seen a cent from me!
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Chiang Mai’s Air Ranks Worst Globally Several Days This Week
in Chiang Mai News
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No, perfectly healthy, but coughing and sinus infections were the early warning.
didn’t wait for anything more serious, which by the way was coming!
im too intelligent to wait!
why would I or anyone for that matter?
wearing a mask, and spending my time indoors with air purifiers wasn’t my retirement dream!
I didn’t work hard all my life for that!
is that your retirement dream?
I feel sorry for you!
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