Jeff the Chef

I was being polite, as in F/O if you want the hostages back get out of Gaza, Hamas are no doubt thinking if they give up the hostages for some humanitarian relief nothing changes and it will be back to mowing the lawn yet again in a few years time. This is not about Hamas or the hostages, it is about public opinion against Israel and the US.

No, Israel made the offer and Hamas has the hostages, up to Israel, either get out of Gaza or no hostages, simples.

Israel made the offer, Hamas refuses the offer and it will be on her and offer all night

I hope Hamas tells them to go away. The world of public opinion is causing Biden and co bad publicity, social media is causing to much negative effect on this war The ICJ case hasn't even reported yet on the ongoing case, which is another reason for Biden and Co to be worried,(reelection time) The Israeli media control is not keeping the world on their side as in previous conflicts. So to me I hope they demand a total ceasefire, IDF to move back to the Gaza boarder, unlimited access to Humanitarian Aid and the guarantee of negotiations for a Palestinian State solution with Israel for a 2 state solution as per previous UN agreement.

Really, so Gazans left there home just for the fun of it, not because Israel dropped 2,000 pound bombs about willy nilly. The rest of what you wrote I suppose means something in your mind but I don't see any sense in it. As for going back to what, the Israeli's made good on their promise of nothing to go back to and I expect that's because the plans are already being drawn up to recolonise Gaza so that Israel can get all that gas, this is all about money and power to the Zionists, never mind that the oppressed of the last 76 years kicked your collective arse's once on the 7/10.

Israelis gather on hillsides to watch and cheer as military drops bombs on Gaza People drink, snack and pose for selfies against a background of explosions as Palestinian death toll mounts in ongoing offensive This article is more than 9 years old, but just as relevant today https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing

So situation normal, all parties carry on as before, another load of killing on both sides aided and abetted by the USA and Israel on one side and Hamas and their supporters on the other. The poor people in the middle dying and being reduced to refugee status on the whim of the totally uncaring leaders of both camps. Humanity in 2024 is a disgrace no matter which side you look at, civilization is lost on all sides.

In relentlessly pursuing his own agenda, the prime minister has lost the trust of Israelis and isolated his country https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/20/observer-view-benjamin-netanyahu-israel-needs-a-change-of-course-and-leadership

So what's going to happen when the ICJ issue's it's findings on the case of genocide against Israel from South Africa, or will that be a million dollar question?

Thought that would bring out your love for Norm, just finished watching American Radical: The Trials of Norman Finkelstein, absolute legend.

Gaza expert predicts politics, public opinion will influence Hague court case https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/gaza-expert-predicts-politics-public-opinion-will-influence-hauge-court-case/34JMP2FLKJFIDM5NV2TEILWGJE/

Any bog cleaner, soak for an hour or until you remember, elbow grease and a bog brush, once a week, job done

No need for fresh tomatoes, all you need is a can of tomato puree, 1 small onion, half a carrot, 4/5 rashers of streaky bacon, 125grms butter, flour, milk/water, salt and pepper to taste. Chop the onion, bacon and carrot up finely, about 1/4 sq inch is fine, melt the butter over a low heat, fry the bacon first, then add the onion, fry till soft/translucent, add the chopped carrot, keep it well stirred, add flour till all the fat is well mixed in and let it cook until it leaves the sides of the pan, that is a basic roux, slowly add water about 1/3 of a pint, stirring all the time to keep it free of lumps, then add milk until it gets to whatever consistency you like, add the tomato puree to get the colour you like, then let it simmer for 30 mins, add more liquid if it gets to thick, you can add fresh or tinned tomatoes at this point, let it simmer for another 15 mins, now you have a choice either have it like it is or pour it into a food processor and give it a whizz until it is smooth like Heinz. Same method for Mushroom but leave out the carrot and fry them with the onion. For Chicken Soup use chicken stock instead of water.

The United Nations wasn't formed until after the 2nd World War.

He also said: Commenting on the Israeli forces’ actions in the Gaza Strip, Guterres noted that the “onslaught” had resulted in “wholesale destruction” and an unprecedented rate of civilian killings during his tenure as Secretary-General. “Nothing can justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people. The humanitarian situation in Gaza is beyond words. Nowhere and no one is safe.”

UN Secretary-General António Guterres has emphasized the imperative of establishing “basic conditions” to facilitate safe and full-scale aid delivery to civilians in Gaza while stressing that only a ceasefire will prevent the crisis from escalating. https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/01/1145537?_gl=1*achl83*_ga*NDA4MTcwMjAzLjE2OTY3MzkxOTM.*_ga_TK9BQL5X7Z*MTcwNTM4NDE1MS4xOS4xLjE3MDUzODQxNTMuMC4wLjA.

Ever thought of making Tomato soup yourself, not difficult.

You're welcome. I feel it needs to be kept simple for the majority on here.

Birds of a feather, flock together.

The public hearings on the request for the indication of provisional measures submitted by the Republic of South Africa in the case concerning Application of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in the Gaza Strip (South Africa v. Israel), which opened on 11 January 2024, concluded on 12 January 2024. The Court will now begin its deliberation. https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240112-pre-01-00-en.pdf

The IDF says = probable propaganda, so that's why I didn't contribute to your post on that.

No need to watch Al Jazeera, anybody can watch it live, straight from the horses mouth. https://webtv.un.org/en

Looking forward to the Israeli defence today at the ICJ should be an interesting watch after South Africa's application yesterday. The facts presented were well put IMHO and to me it was all well documented and put to the court in a courteous and respectful manner. To me the Israeli reply to the evidence will need to be equally outstanding.

Yeah, I know.