Cameroni

'He definitely has that show man, performer, vibe and it does look like it tempts him to say some things that shoot beyond reason.

That's fine, but it's your job to control your feelings. Not to accost Thai ladies who are scraping a living selling T-shirts.

So I watched Andrew Tate, obviously a rich man and most searched name on google etc, and I find this guy very hard to call. A lot of what he says sounds plausible, but then some of the things he says just seem, well "off". Does Andrew Tate make sense to you or not? By the way I don't want to get into his criminal case, I am not into that, I am looking at this purely from his advice for men and philosophy. What say you? Thoughts?

I think you need the lesson in history and ethical standards a lot more.

So? He was signalling "I'm good, Putin bad". In a most obnoxious and offensive manner, which hopefully seems him deported. Too many Ukrainians and Russians causing problems in Thailand.

I totally agree with you Richard, that the attitude of the complainant is the crux of the issue. As so often he displayed a messianic, I am so right and know it all better attitude, you are stupid and wrong and no doubt that rubbed the Thai lady the wrong way. Of course I support the right of anyone to have an opinion on this, and to express it respectfully and politely. The problem with ganging up on a Thai Lady selling T-Shirts is that this is picking the wrong target. It is already very hard to survive for most Thais, and selling T-Shirts she barely scrapes by. She cannot be expected to cater to the finer points of farang sensibilities. In fact she thought she was catering to farang preferences and is just trying to make a living. Whilst foreigners can have whatever opinion they like on this, and indeed express it respectfully, they still need to realise that they are guests in this country and cannot mandate a Thai woman what she can do and can't do in her own country. That is just wrong. I think more wrong than selling a T-Shirt with a face of a long forgotten or present political leader on it.

Whether any particular interpretation of decency or morality has absolute value is a simple question, which has a yes or no answer. The point I was making about the snake eating the mouse was not about species or food, but about perspective. It appeared shallow to you because you did not look in the right place. The point is perspective. Morality and decency are dependent on perspective, where you sit determines your interpretation. You yourself actually then, correctly, raise the issue of perspective yourself. Yes, an image of Hitler is viewed differently in Poland than in Thailand, quite so. But the very fact that this is the case shows that there is no absolute valid right or wrong on this question. Even in the West, you may recall the funny T-Shirts in the 90s that were sold of "Hitler on Tour". Context matters, everyone knew it was a joke. So yes, people can argue about this day and night, find it offensive or not offensive. However, clearly these T-shirts are not political statements. They do not contain images of Hitler actually killing someone or fornicating with a dog. They are just faces. So personally I see no issue with this. It's not that I would view certain other things, murder, bestiality or such as having absolute wrong, even if most cultures in the world today view these as morally wrong, because in fact there times when they were not considered such, and even today if the state murders a criminal many consider that right. Of course there are gray areas. But whether Thailand is embarassed by a Hitler T-shirt, because of Tik Tok, I doubt it very much, and in any event that is for Thais to decide, not farang with an axe to grind. Whatever colour that axe has. No doubt there is imagery that is so far beyond that which is considered acceptable in most cultures, I alluded to it above, murder, bestiality, mass kiling or such, however, even that would not make it absolutely wrong, as there were times and cultures when they were not. But here clearly these T-shirts are nowhere near this level of offence, and in any event it is for Thais to decide if it breaks any laws within Thailand. Not guests.

How pleasing will it be though when the US bombs annihilate Canadian cities? Not very, I suspect.

"Decency" is a malleable and flexible concept. Once person's "decency" is another person's stupidity. Much like morality is dependent on perspective. To the snake eating the mouse it's just dinner, to the mouse it's cold blooded murder. The problem arises when some people feel their interpretation of "decency" or morality has an absolute value. Those days are gone.

So of course did the Allies engage in unlawful activities and genocide, for instance the RAF adopting the bombing of civilian housing as policy and cowardly burning women and children alive. But we digress, going back to the question, I suspect Canadians' "fight-back" will be limited to things like renaming the Americano "Canadiano". If Canadians were ever so dumb to go to war with the USA they certainly would not deserve any sympathy and should be wiped off the map.

I was amazed to read that Chinese scientists had predicted the Myanmar earthqauake. They had observed the Myanmar plates being locked in without moving for too long and on the basis of this, BEFORE the quake, predicted an accumulation of energy and big earthquake in Myanmar. Hats off to the Chinese scientists.

Ah sorry, I didn't realise you had a crystal ball and could predict the market. Lol.

What a shame this Thai lady cannot read this forum and see the utter madness of the farang. On this thread we've had everything from poster claiming he's helping good to triumph over evil to defend his RAF ancestors by attacking some poor woman selling t-shirts, to those claiming Trump is the real problem... I mean it's almost as bad as if you, a foreigner, go up to a shop owner to lecture her about the content of her T-shirt being offensive to you, the visitor in the country. If she read all this drivel she'd no doubt go "Arena, Farang crazy ah?"....And she'd be right. Lol. If you think these t-shirts are a threat to the safety of the world perhaps you need to work on your psychological issues.

My God do I like this Elon Musk.

Well, at least he didn't have a child with Amber Heard. One shudders to think what that would have turned out.

That's a step too far. The SEC was always chronically understaffed. They are vital to uncover financial fraud, even if they did fail miserably in the asset-backed crisis.

Brilliant article, rock on Elon! ROCK ON! Elon Musk said Thursday that slashing a trillion in federal spending is “quite achievable” without impacting the core services — and vowed that Social Security recipients “will receive more money” thanks to their work.

The RAF burned alive women and children and is one of the worst instruments of war crimes that ever existed. You'll never see T-shirts with the RAF in Thailand because nobody wants to admit to supporting an organization whose purpose was to burn alive women and children.

I have listened to it and MY GOD WAS IT TEDIOUS and ludicrous propaganda. VOA is basically a merciless assault on the intelligence of the listener, a non stop tissue of lies. The sooner this VOA propaganda rag closes down the better it will be.

Exactly, it's the radical left bias of the VOA that has been its demise. Oh well, another win.

The RAF? I wouldn't admit to that publicly if I were you. Yes, I'm sure in the great battle of good and evil you are the winged avenger who will help virtue and good to triumph. Do me a favour, take your cape, go home, and leave this poor woman alone and let her sell her shirts for a few baht. It's hard enough to make a living for Thais without people like you imposing your morality delusion on the actual citizens of the country!

What are you talking about? Very clearly it's the radical left bias of VOA that's causing it to be shut down: US President Donald Trump has signed an order to strip back federally funded news organisation Voice of America, accusing it of being "anti-Trump" and "radical". A White House statement said the order would "ensure taxpayers are no longer on the hook for radical propaganda" https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvge4l109r3o

That's not not why Trump is shutting down VOA at all, it's because VOA was spouting leftist radical propaganda which is now no longer tolerated. He's actually shut down VOA. I so love this guy, he really knows what to do to make the world a better place. One vile propaganda rag less. Fantastic news.

Brothers fornicating? This is the interesting plot line? Plus suicide? Well that sounds delightful. i'll download that right now.

You just have to listen to it, it is one-dimensional paper-thin tedious propaganda. The sooner VOA shuts down the better. Does anyone actually listen to this abomination? Surely a colossal waste of taxpayer money.