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That would be a much bigger punishment for Putin. Trump would be with one of his top heroes. Putin would be with a useful idiot who he has zero respect for.

It would probably be some kind of pan western Marshall plan type of thing. If a big if Ukraine can definitely win and realistically that could take years the rebuilding of Ukraine will likely make it the place for non Russian global movers and shakers to be.

Its in the US interest as well. Compare future worlds where Ukraine is a slave puppet state of Russia vs. one where Ukraine is a sovereign nation integrated into Europe which is what the people of Ukraine clearly want. Ukraine global breadbasket free to ship all they want on the black sea vs. having every movement dictated by mother (f) Russia. So Crimea must be Ukrainian. If Russia wins only naive fools thinks delusionally imperial Russia stops there.

Stop mansplaining what I am or what my world view is.. It is both wrong and massively obnoxious.

Not struggling.

Good to hear. Others absurdly deny it.

To stimulate discussion and expose hypocrisy.

Disagree If you get a visa without qualifying there is definitely corruption involved.

Disagree If you get a visa without qualifying there is definitely corruption involved.

I will not. But if real licenses were offered I would consider in the same way so many people use Visa agents without qualifying.

Please stop speaking for me. It is extremely obnoxious. I understand the situation completely.

Harsh considering there are some fools that don't realize they have a fake.

Yes understood. But the scammers probably avoid lots of flak sending something.

But there is something less dead here. Wouldn't f rangs welcome corruption in licensing in the same way they welcome corruption in visas IF the licenses were as legit as the immigration stamps? If not why not?

Would not if fake.

I'm not struggling at all. My point is that if these agents offered legit licenses without needing testing at the licensing place they would be exactly the same flavor of corruption as visa agents that don't require meeting visa requirements. The problem here is they are not offering real licenses. If the visa corruption is acceptable to us what's the difference? Yes I understood these license scammers are not offering legit licenses.

Will they give a discount if you tell them you know it's a fake but you're only looking for a souvenir?

I think Ukrainians can legitimately hate Russia for at least 50 years.

Is there.any value to having a fake license? Such as getting the Thai price at national parks etc.?

It's funny that American right wingers forget about fiscal conservatism the moment they are in power.

You can't have peace negotiations with genocidal war criminal Putin.

Do you think these guys have offices you can visit? The visa agents do.

3 points on an imaginary license is 0.

So extensions done without meeting financial requirements are scams too according to your logic. This ain't Kansas. To me the core issue is whether you get an actual license or not.

My big complaint about US Ukraine policy is out of fear of Putin's threats, we won't announce that we are comited to support Ukraine to WIN the war defined as kicking out Russia of all occupied lands including Crimea.