The Cyclist

Because he has more than one Pension and only 1 of them is a Government Pension ? @billd766 Does your other pension providers not send out a Statement of future payments with your P60's ? Mines gives the monthly payment and tax deducted in a box in the bottom right hand corner

And round in circles we go. As posted in the same comment you replied to Section 40 states : Assessable income is..... Section 40, Part 1: Amongst others, states pensions. Someone else has just posted above Filed, but no tax to pay. I have already told you. I currently have, in an A4 envelope, annual bank printout, copies of P60's, copy of UK - Thai DTA The P60's show the same information as @Dah fahrang tax printout from the HMRC website. But this is the most relevant part That is the thing we are all going to need, going forward.

Is that your link to back this up ? This seems pretty normal to me And you might want to ignore the next part You should try reading and understanding articles before you post them. It might stop you looking like a complete prat, on 2nd thoughts......

Have you got a link to that ? Or are you confusing Richard Tice with his long term partner Isabel Oakeshott ? Easy mistake to make, for those that struggle to define what a man or a woman is.

Cough Cough Just the 1 prison ? I reckon if they tried hard they could fill 3 prisons.

I am posting what the RD Officer, not only told me, but filled in a PND 91 in pencil for me to use as a template. So perhaps this will go someway to validate what the RD Officer told me, showed me, regardless of what the paperwork currently says or does not say. These are the only Facts that I claim to know. The UK - Thai DTA says that my UK Government Pension ( This is the important part ) is only taxable in the UK. That same DTA does not mention any of the following items * Assessable or Non assessable in Thailand. * Nor does it say that you will not tax file if you are a tax resident of Thailand. * Nor does it say that you exempt from following Thai tax laws and rules if you are tax resident of Thailand. That is the easy part We are aware that Thai Tax Residents from the 01 Jan 2024 must file a tax return if they have assessable income. Here is the contentious Part. Section 40 of the Revenue Code states quite clearly Nothing contentious about the above Section 40, Part ( 1 ) states Pensions are clearly stated as assessable income. It doesn't matter a jot that 15 years ago I was told " Dont worry about tax in Thailand, as long as you are not earning in Thailand, no-one gives a monkeys " And that is pretty much how i have lived for the past 15 years. But times are a changing. And I read in a black and white, as being a tax resident, my remitted pension is assessable income, and I need to file a tax return. It also matters not a jot, that Thailand will not receive a Satang in tax, what matters more to me is sticking to the rules as best I can. I certainly would not like to get my self in a pile of excrement, and possibly lose 15 years of setting up a good life, for the sake of a lousy tax form.

And you have an English comprehension issue, that you might want to sort out. I could fill in my details ( Less TIN ) on a PND 91 It doesn't say anything about handing over a previous draft copy, does it ?

I think you are looking for things that do not exist. If I went to the RD Office this afternoon, I could fill in my details ( Less TIN ) on a PND91 Section A Box 1. Salaries, wages, pensions etc XXXXXXX Baht Box 2. Less Exempted income ( The same ) XXXXXXX Baht Annual Bank Printout Copies of my P60's Copy of UK - Thai DTA. With an explanation of why the whole XXXXXXX Baht is exempt * And ask for a TIN to actually file it. They might give me one, or they might tell me no need. Either way, I have something of substance to produce in the event of any future questions. * Exempt meaning not liable to Thai Taxation as opposed to being exempt filing a tax return. Or perhaps all the fields will be available when the updated English Language Form is released. Or as I said previously, it might not be an updated English Language Form, it might be a complete new form that covers all foreign income, taxes paid and DTA's.

I haven't filed anything, yet. But as my only remitted income in 2024 is my Government Pension, I have an A4 envelope, complete with annual bank statement, copies of my P60's, that I can easily transfer to paperwork, depending what the updated paperwork says. That does not get away from the fact that the RD Office used a PND 91 to put my pension details, and another poster has also said that he uses a PND 91 for his pension. So clearly it can be done.

I'll bet that the person you refer to as a " Uniformed oxygen sink " can spell mistake. Do you really ? Guess what. Keep wanting. I could not care less what you want, what you think, or that you are panicking over this. Perhaps, it might be pertinent for you, to visit your local RD Office, and enquire what they require from you. Rather than being a total trumpet on here.

The filing levels are quite clear 60k / 120k / 220 k, depending on the income and if you file as a single person or as a couple. They are set in stone in the Revenue Code. The level where an individual becomes liable to pay tax. Will vary greatly between individuals As a single man under 65, my taxation level would be 310k Baht. 60k for me 100k for Pension 1st 150k zero tax rated.

Watch PMQ's tomorrow. I believe that the gloves may come off, after the Speaker previously silencing it in the HoC. Starmer, I believe has lied to Parliament over this. Get the beer and popcorn at the ready. It's all over the Media, and it is not going away. Thats a given.

Hate to point this out. But 1 million Baht year is the stuff that many Thais can only dream of. So for a Westerner, 1 million baht a year is small money, you're not in the West, and it does make you a larger fish in the Thai fish pond.

I'm not sure that is correct. Neither do I know your circumstances. However, if your local RD is telling you no TIN and no file, just keep your all your paperwork, take a photo outside the RD Office, and keep it safe and sound in an envelope marked " Thai Tax Year 2024 " How good that might be, I have no idea, but it will certainly be better than having nothing, should you get invited for an interview, audited, or otherwise investigated.

Yes they could have, but I think you have to look at the timeline in its entirety. The Tories commissioned a report which was published in 2022. They set up a dedicated task force which has arrested another 550 suspects. The whole thing is a National scandal, embarrassment, and a good indicator of the levels of clowns, incompetents , spineless wretches, and all round bellthronks that walk the various corridors of Power, from the local level right up to the National Level. It is hardly surprising that they all wanted it swept under the carpet and kept quiet. Then Musk let loose with a few salvoes on X / Twitter as more another case hit the headlines. And here we are today, 2 Public Inquiries announced in the last 2 weeks, and still nothing into the Rape Gangs. I suspect before too long Musk will be firing broadsides again. The genie is out the bottle, and is not going back in, everyday that the current Government refuses a Royal Commission / National Inquiry, tells its own story. Self preservation / protection beats justice for the victims, hands down.

If I had a true and honest answer, I would give you it. But as I don't, that is why, whether it is right or wrong, I'm going with what my Local RD Office says.

And that brings to mind a little snippet from 2 weeks ago. When I was getting an annual bank printout, the lady dealing with me asked if it was for tax filing 😀😀

Just over 2 weeks ago I went to the Big RD Office and asked if I needed to file a tax return for my UK Government Pension. The lady said yes and I asked her how I go about filing as I had never done it before. She then went and got a PND 91 and filled it in with pencil for me to use as a template. Posted the whole thing on here, including a photo of the PND 91. Are you starting to panic ? I told you my Gov Pension is only taxable in UK due to DTA ( Please note, yet again. That No DTA, stipulates whether a Pension is assessable or non assessable in Thailand ) * Excluslive / Primary / Secondary taxing rights ( Or words to that effect ) Tax is deducted at source on my UK Gov Pension I posted a photo of the PND 91 she draft filled in for me.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but the list below does not mention Pensions. So are you agreeing with my reasoning, that Pensions are in fact assessable income, and should be reported in a tax filing ?

And bang https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/20/yvette-cooper-announces-public-inquiry-into-southport-attack That makes 2 Public Inquiries in the last 2 weeks. The one above and one into the Marsden Detention Centre. I do not need to shake my head in disbelief as to why no Joined up Royal Commission / Public Inquiry into the Rape Gangs will take place. Starmers, neck would be on the block, along with other current Labour MP's, Labour Mayors, and a small Army of Labour Councillors.

How is that reversocycle going ? Yesterday you were extolling the virtues of " Tax the Rich, to fund public Services " They wont be funding anything, given that they are revving up and leaving. More black holes in the Public Finances anyone ?

Paging @Chomper Higgot Have a read, I told you all this yesterday. This is the outcome of the " Tax the Rich " mantra.

Immigration ? Free movement of people is not immigration, and not what I blamed the EU for. I blamed Brexit on the EU morphing by stealth from the Common Market to a Political and monetary Union. Back to the actual topic. Reeves is off to Davos 😀😀 A place that I would suggest she steers well clear from.

The Tories ? I seem to recall Cameron / The Tories spending £9million of taxpayer money on a leaflet on why we should stay in the EU. It wasn't a Tory issue, it was an EU issue, that the voters of the UK decided to change direction from EU Political and Monetary harmonisation. If the Common Market ( A great concept ) had not morphed by stealth into the EU, Brexit would never had happened. Single European Act of 1987 and the Maastricht Treaty of 1992 was the start point of EU overreach.

I'll just echo what @herfiehandbag said. political embarrassment, damage to individuals is exactly ( IMHO ) is what theses creatures masquerading as Politicians, people in authority and other spineless wretches deserve, and ultimately justice for the victims. Money should be no barrier to ensuring this happens.