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I had no idea that Trump was able to accomplish all of that in four years. Sure you haven't missed anything?

In preparation for the ground offensive on Rafah, Egypt has cleared and walled in a six square mile area adjacent to the border. Although the Egyptians claim it is a staging area for aid and trucks. Six square miles is far in excess of what is needed.

While it may not be Trump's plan, psychologically people are more open to discussion if you don't continually badmouth them. A little praise, whether deserved or not, goes a long way. This forum is a good example of this. Now I will be accused of being a Trump supporter, which I am not.

While I agree that illegal immigration is a mixed bag, as you put it, I still maintain the country is better off without it. In the CONCLUSION the author states, "The overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants have no education beyond high school and primarily compete with U.S. born, and legal immigrants, in lower paid occupations that require modest levels of education."

https://cis.org/sites/default/files/2023-09/camarota-testimony-9-13.pdf This is the correct link. I just tried it. Works. The Senate testimony is from 2016. This House testimony is from 2023.

So you think Social Security is the only government program out there? No wonder you make such idiotic statements. If you took off your blinders you would see my other posts listing city and state dollars being spent on illegal immigrants.

Sorry, this is the best I can do. https://cis.org/sites/default/files/2023-09/camarota-testimony-9-13.pdf Link will say "Page Not Found" Then: Click on Topics Under Topics click "Costs of Immigration" Under Sub Topics click "Wages,Jobs, and Poverty" Then scroll down to "The Impact of Biden's Open Border On the American Workforce"

Ask heybruce. He seems to have all the answers. I know he doesn't like mine. The link I provided keeps on changing. I will see what I can do.

I still say that illegal immigrants cost the country more than they contribute. https://edworkforce.house.gov/uploadfiles/9.13.23_camarota_testimony_help_subcommittee_hearing_on_open_borders_and_workforce.pdf

https://www.wnd.com/2024/02/bidens-immigration-surge-push-wages-years-cbo-says/ The first source I read misquoted the CBO and blamed illegal immigration entirely. This link says both legal and illegal immigration will be the cause of wage stagnation. Difficult to know who to trust. When it comes to tax cheats of all sorts, the IRS usually calls it a high number to justify more money for enforcement. The fact is, whether high or low, these people are lawbreakers and should be dealt with.

Interesting. From my personal observations, I've noticed different jobs seem to attract different ethnic groups. Filipinos, if given a choice, tend to choose work in care giving and nursing. And they are very good at it. Hawaiians are good as heavy construction equipment operators. Many Japanese choose carpentry and woodworking jobs. Caucasians, like myself, are found everywhere. I started as a carpenter and eventually became a licensed general contractor. My workers were a melting pot of ethnicities. Just saying.

Okay strawberry picker, stop confusing the issue. The subject matter is illegals. My one experience with Mexican coffee pickers was awful. Because they were piece workers, they damaged the trees and picked both green and ripe berries. Never again. I grew up with sugar and pineapple workers who were unionized and made decent income with good benefits. Some were immigrant laborers and to my knowledge none were illegal. When the plantations closed many joined me in unionized construction work. So, I am not completely ignorant like you claim me to be.

I guess you must have first hand knowledge of this.

Enough of you nonsense. A guarantee from you is a joke. And a sad one at that.

Yep. Different strokes for different folks.

The native Hawaiian population was decimated by diseases from foreigners. The local population had no immunity to measles, STDs, etc. which had a devastating effect. It was a young American who helped King Kamehameha conquer the islands, along with the use of foreign weapons. Eventually, Hawaiian royalty married foreigners and the rest is history. There were also native Hawaiians who joined those in overthrowing Queen Liliuokalani.

I didn't know official government statistics were generated from right wing sites. Right wing CBO? News to me. For your information, the diversion of funds to illegal immigrants are being decried by those directly affected in those liberal cities. They are being denied help because of diverted funds. If immigration laws need to be changed, then change them. Illegal immigration creates more problems. then it solves. Do you think the FBI is lying about the dangers of illegals entering the country?

King Kamehameha I is credited for unifying the Hawaiian Island under one kingdom. How he did it is a story of treachery and the slaughtering of other Hawaiians. Yet there are statues of him in prominent places and no one in their right mind would suggest removing them. Throughout history this has occurred over and over with statues and monuments erected to these "heroes." Removing them accomplishes nothing, but satisfying those who think it does, for whatever reason.

https://open.lib.umn.edu/principleseconomics/chapter/12-3-labor-markets-at-work If you read the link in its entirety, then you will see the whole picture and not just what you want to believe. Not my problem if you still don't understand.

Just admit it. You do not understand how supply and demand applies to the labor force. Suspect what? Please elaborate.

I didn't arrive at this conclusion; the CBO did. My take is the rule of supply and demand applies. Quite sure you know how that works. Or perhaps maybe you don't. And the costs continue to rise. NYC mayor asks NY governor for more bucks as his budget faces more shortfalls. She, in turn, is asking the feds for more money. Denver is cutting public services in order to fund illegal migrant programs. What's a million here and a million there?

Two days after this post, the CBO in a 10 year budget estimate said the influx of illegal immigrants will force down wages in the U.S. Not good news for LEGAL American wage earners. Off course, according to you this will be offset by increased contributions by these illegals to Social Security and Medicare by these illegals. By the way, many illegals work under the table and pay no payroll taxes. And if wages go down, then payroll taxes go down. So, tell me how all this benefits this REAL hardworking Americans?

Why did you post a link that has a paywall? Isn't that against forum rules?

Try looking at yourself in the mirror. Be careful. You might cut yourself.

Correction ,it's even worse, $6 trillion in three years. Since you are so knowledgeable and confident about the economy, if not this year, when?