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ArranP
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I used the money to install an off-grid solar system ( DIY ) instead of paying to connect to PEA.
It cost approx 150,000 baht runs the fridge, shower, tv's, computers fans etc. it can run 1 air air con. If I want more air cons say to run 3 air con, then I would need to add another inverter and battery at a further cost of 70,000 baht.
EASUN 5000watt inverter 20,000 baht ( Aliexpress )
Lithium ( pouchcell ) battery 48v 200ah 56,000 Delong ( Alibaba )
Panels 14x330w 54600 baht poly Amorn Big C
Paid a guy to put the panels on the roof, and cabled it myself. been running since september.
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6 hours ago, Crossy said:
Where is HIS meter?
If the poles are after the meter they are his and you have to ask nicely.
Before the meter and they belong to PEA and you have to ask them.
How are you getting power? Can the fibre not use those poles?
You certainly shouldn't have strung fibre without the permission of the owner be it the neighbour or PEA (the internet company likely have a blanket permission from PEA). What have the police said, if anything?
And I agree, 100k to use the poles does seem excessive.
I installed off-grid solar for electric and intend to extend this as required, the electric here up and down all the time.
The poles are before my neighbours meter, but after their transformer. The poles are of the the smaller size and run across private land that is not my neighbours.
I bought some blue pvc pipe to house the fibre cable, my intention was to use this initially, however after hearing the same from several different people, that the poles become available for public use after 6 months, I decided to use the poles.
So now, as my neighbour has contacted the police, we are being asked to take down the fibre, I would like to clarify if the poles are available for public use or not and would like advice on how I can establish this ?
In the UK I would contact Enviromental Planning department. In Thailand is it the Or Bor Tor Office... which government office would control the use of utility poles ?
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About 10 years ago, my neighbour installed utility poles, spanning approx 300 meters across privately owned land ( not his land ).
I have come to install fibre internet across these poles, my neighbour has requested that I pay them 100,000 baht to use these poles ( he installed 10 years prior ).
Several people local to the village commented that I should not need to pay to use the poles, as they have been there for more than 6 months. I.e. villagers claim that utility poles that are privately installed, become available for public use after 6 months, if I wanted to use them in the first 6 months I should pay, but after 6 months there is no need to pay as they automatically become available for public use.
The fibre has now been installed across the poles, my neighbour has been to the police and is requesting I that the internet line be removed from the poles or I must pay 100,000 baht.
I would like verify the availability of these poles for public use and would welcome any advise on how I can go about this.
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1,700 baht sqm aluminium frame local street side manufacturer/installer.
https://www.coolthaihouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4983
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I'm sourcing a supplier for windows and doors. Full height 2.5, various runs from 2 fixed / 4 sliding units approx 1.8m in length.
Given doors and windows will be in the shade, will single glazed do, double glazed an overkill ? They living style will be open during the day, open at night with mosquito screens. Property is on the sound of a mountain with good cross wind. The aircons may run for 1 or 2 hours early evening to cool down the rooms ( if necessay ) hence my consideration for not going to the additional expense of double glazing.
Given the units are full height 2.5m standard size units cannot be used. looking for recommendations for windows / doors of low price.
Given standard size units are approx 3,000 baht sqm and custom units I've seen so far 6,000 baht sqm. So I'm looking for recommendation to fit custom windows as near to the standard unit price as possible. Is it really necessary to stay with the custom units provider at 6,000 baht sqm.
Thanks for your feedback.
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For ownership to be transferred, the Land Department must amend the land title(s) to reflect the position of the new border(s)... I understand that this is done by a judge via court order, therefore the individual trying to take the land must satify the judge that all necessary criteria have met.
As the person who stands to benefit is in most cases the individual trying to take over the land, therefore it is with them to pay the court fees to have the land title papers amended.
Aside from the judge requesting the land office to change the borders, the rest are my assumptions.
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Anyone had experience of this...
https://www.samuiforsale.com/law-texts/thailand-civil-code-part-3.html
Section 1382. Where a person has, for an uninterrupted period of ten years in case of an immovable, or five years in case of a movable, peacefully and openly possessed a property belonging to another, with the intention to be its owner, he acquires the ownership of it.
Does this mean, one can simply maintain a fence around a parcel of land for 10 years, to take ownership of it... Must one update the land office at any point ?
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In the UK Your company may qualify for an audit exemption if it has an annual turnover of no more £10.2 million or assets worth no more than £5.1 million.
Basically this means you don't need an accountant, you can do the book keeping, prepare and submit the annual financial statements ( balance sheet & profit and loss ) yourself.
Is there no such audit exemption in Thailand for Ltd Cos ?
At least I would like to do the book keeping myself.
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Anybody have experience of living in both these countries?
I have lived Thailand ( Phuket / Koh Lanta ) since 2012 and am considering re-locating to Langkawi Malaysia.
Thanks for the feedback.
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1 hour ago, Beggar said:
It is a bad story. What does your GF say? Why does she not want to give the land to the kids?
GF want my son ( the son I have with her he is 5 years old ) and my daughter on the title deed.
The is not my first choice... I intend to maintain the choice of using the Thai accommodation business as security to purchase a boat, so that funds from my UK accommodation business can be used to fund the growth of the Thai accommodation business. If I put my son on the title deed it means I need to wait 13 years until they are both ( my son and daughter ) are over the ago of 18 years, instead of just 7 years if it were only my daughter.
Her reasoning for this is that she wants to look out for my sons future... so after 1 day of contemplation, I conceeded, and agreed to putting both my son and daughter on the title deed.... so long as GF did the same with her land, i.e. transfer her land into my sons name. Initially she agreed, a day later, she refused, spouting why do I try to control her... bla bla bla.
This is a business I am running, I can't have GF meddling in business affairs, each time we have a fall out, its not practical, and her interference blocks progress. I am not able to go to the land office to upgrade land to chanote, order land survey etc etc...
All 4 of my children each will get 25% my estate, which will be stipulated in my will, and drawn up by my soilicitor / lawyer.
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1 hour ago, baansgr said:
Offer her a few hundred thousand as thats at least what lawyers will charge for doing sweet fa, however at 4,5mil i doubt she wont accept anything less than market value. Lot of money to loose....i lost more than that. Seriously, you wont get anywhere.
One has to try.
Giving money will send the wrong message, and only encourage more of the same at some future juncture....
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15 minutes ago, baansgr said:
Stark reality....you aint getting your money back. WIll gf put land in daughters name for a one off payment. Lawyers will charge hundreds of thousands and you still wont get anywhere...continually qyoting the thai law may make you feel better but it wont change the situation. How big is the land, whats the value
2 Rai 2 Nan, 4.5m
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22 minutes ago, Pilotman said:
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Are you trying to justify your actions and expect some recompense? This is Thailand; the Rule of Law, if it exists at all as a concept. or as an applied set of rules, is flexible and is not designed to protect none citizens. Neither is it applied to look into the minor details of transactions using personal funds between private individuals, as in civil cases in say the UK. You have lost your money and your plans, so move on mate.
Post is asking for recommendations from people who have had a good and value for money experience with a Law firm.
Regards the law being in effective, I hope that is not the case, without the legal system as a viable means to reconcile wrong doings, we as a human race decend into bunch of savages, seeking recompense for wrong doings via our own means, God forbid.
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15 minutes ago, baansgr said:
The land may very well have been sold already or hoked to some monet lender.
I'm sitting on it as I type.
It may very well have been, this part is out of my control.
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21 minutes ago, brianthainess said:
So not old enough to have land in her name to my knowledge. I think it is 15 but i guess like everything else in LOS it depends where you live.
Children younger than 11, own land in Koh Lanta.
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1 minute ago, Pilotman said:
You have been incredibly naive all through this process, in trusting your gf and in not getting proper legal advice from a reputable, if probably expensive, law firm. Your options are now very limited and it looks to me like you must walk away from it and her and start again. You have learnt a valuable lesson in Thailand, trust nobody, unless you really do know them and even in that case, go cautiously and protect yourself legally at each turn. Good luck.
It is a criminal offence for a Thai national to purchase land in Thailand, in place of a foreigner. When funds to purchase land in Thailand are coming from a foreigner, a procedure must be followed, at the land office to declare said funds as the personal property of the Thai national. If this is not done the following criminal and offences are committed.
Criminal offences comitted
- Thai national : violation of Criminal Code Section 267
- Thai national : violation of Section 94 / 96 of the Land Code
- Foreigner : violation of Section 94 / 96 of the Land Code
Also, the foreigner has rights to refund of their personal property, based on the 'undue enrichment' sections of the civil code.
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1 minute ago, brianthainess said:
How old is the daughter now ?
11
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7 minutes ago, vinniekintana said:
Is your 'daughter' actually yours or your gf's daughter from a previous husband?
Daughter is my eldest child from a previous wife.
I have 4 children, 2 with previous wife, and 2 with girl friend.
In my will each child will get 25% of my estate.
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7 hours ago, LukKrueng said:
When taking an action one should consider the consequences - time in jail vs the cost of the land
According to all the laws @ArranP showed in his earlier posts it seems he broke the law by using a proxy to buy land. How can he prove his intentions were to gift the land to his daughter while he actually registered it under his gf's name? It all sums to "he said - she said". I think the only way he can get out of the criminal case is by saying he gifted the land to the gf, but then he has no claim over it... Kinda catch 22 situation.
Whilst in this case, I unknowingly did commit a criminal offence when girl friend recommended, and did purchase land in her name with my peronal property, as stated by her to get a building license, and then later she will transfer to daughters naem. Both girl firend and myself must serve whatever sentance is handed down by the court.
When girl friend unduely enriches herself by taking the my personal property. I should also consider the consequences of standing idly by and do nothing, is thus sending girl friend the wrong message, she can unduely enrich herself by taking my property as her personal property whilst suffering no consequence.
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7 hours ago, LukKrueng said:
When taking an action one should consider the consequences - time in jail vs the cost of the land
According to all the laws @ArranP showed in his earlier posts it seems he broke the law by using a proxy to buy land. How can he prove his intentions were to gift the land to his daughter while he actually registered it under his gf's name? It all sums to "he said - she said". I think the only way he can get out of the criminal case is by saying he gifted the land to the gf, but then he has no claim over it... Kinda catch 22 situation.
On 8/22/2019 at 5:45 PM, ArranP said:She is unable to evidence the money is her personal property, therefore it was necessary for her and me, to certify to the Land Office, that the money coming from my bank account, was in fact her personal property, which we did not do. Whilst I was unaware there was this precdure to follow at the Land Office, it is still a criminal offence, her on 2 counts and myself on 1 count, have committed and punishable under Thai Law.
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7 hours ago, LukKrueng said:
When taking an action one should consider the consequences - time in jail vs the cost of the land
According to all the laws @ArranP showed in his earlier posts it seems he broke the law by using a proxy to buy land. How can he prove his intentions were to gift the land to his daughter while he actually registered it under his gf's name? It all sums to "he said - she said". I think the only way he can get out of the criminal case is by saying he gifted the land to the gf, but then he has no claim over it... Kinda catch 22 situation.
Understood.
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10 minutes ago, GarryP said:
I do not for a minute believe that you would be sentenced to imprisonment. If everything is made clear to the court that the purchase was for your daughter and her future and that you girlfriend deliberately mislead you, resulting in misappropriation of property, the court is more likely to side with you. At worst a fine but I do not believe the land will be taken from you. More likely your ex-girlfriend will be bound to transfer the land to your daughter as originally intended.
However, what you do need to look into is whether a fine or any kind of ruling against you would have an impact in getting visas for Thailand for yourself.
My sentiment also.
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It can run an air con too, so payback is about 6 to 7 years.
Its a new build and located about 1 kilometer from the PEA grid, to connect to the PEA I would have needed a transformer, posts and cabling, that would have cost approx double the cost of the solar. Plus where I live the electric is off and on all the time. So far I'm quite happy with it.