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Go back through your posts in this thread and count how many times you have praised yourself. Why not just once? You have repeated the same thing at least TEN times. Is that normal? Just saying...

No. That was a separate discussion a long time ago and even you conceded that it was in fact copies of Neapolitan pizza that was voted the best in the USA. NYC pizza did not figure at all in the rankings. Apart from that, if you do not understand that 50toppizza is an exercise in marketing and little to do with the pizza itself, then I don't know what else to tell you. What are the assessment criteria for 50TopPizza? the pizza. It must be, above all, good and digestible regardless of the style adopted by the pizzeria. ... the service. ... the space, ambiance and décor. ... the wait. ... the wine. ... the beer. ... Beverages.

Yes. This is what he wrote: There is no mention of @thaibeachlovers making the products at home. Are those health foods to you? Even going by your figures, is a cheeseburger a healthy food? You left out the 9 grams of fat for the cheese. So that is 29 grams of fat just for the patty and the cheese.

Indeed, I would certainly avoid anything Celeron, dependent on the price and possible application.

Why would tell someone that certain foods are healthy, when they are not? You have admitted that they need to be modified to make them less unhealthy. So by that admission, they are not healthy foods normally. Don't you 'get' that?

If you admit when you are wrong, then why don't you admit it now. You told @thaibeachlovers to try Texas BBQ ribs, cheeseburgers, shrimp scampi.... there were no caveats with regard to making them at home and modifying the ingredients. Now all of a sudden, you are linking us to pages that recommended that we remove the cheese or just have half of a bun....and then you accuse me of skimming articles you obviously haven't read yourself 😊 Normal cheeseburger meat has 20% fat. Add the cheese to that figure. Then there's perhaps sugar in the bun and various other additives. Articles suggest trying to make it less unhealthy, but in your mind it means it has become a health food 😊 You made a mistake. Why is it so hard for you to admit it? If I make a mistake, I don't double down on it. As a musician, if you play a bum note, you don't go back and play it again and again, insisting that it's the right note, when everyone can hear and feel that it's wrong.

Who are you helping by telling that Texas BBQ ribs, cheeseburgers and shrimp scampi and healthy foods? Did you assess @thaibeachlovers condition before doing so? You aren't helping anyone other than trying to feed your own ego. You just talk about you, you, you. Obnoxious is correct.

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Mine has been sitting in the fridge for a while..

Funny....I tell you about my energy supply needs during training and you try to make it about you, again. 😊 Instead of simply asking, like a normal human being, you prefer to act like you know everything 😊 I'm simply illuminating your traits.

So were you suggesting to @thaibeachlovers to make everything at home. Do you have any recommendation as to where he can obtain these foods in healthy form? 😊 I am interested. Please direct me to the places that make healthy versions of the foodstuffs you mentioned. If you can, then maybe we can incorporate value for money in Thailand into the conversation 😊

Nowhere in the linked article is it stated that cheeseburgers are healthy 😊 It just comes up with ideas to make them LESS UNHEALTHY. Removing the things that make a cheeseburger tasty in the first place. There were none of those caveats when you recommended them as a healthy food to @thaibeachlovers Now all of a sudden he has to make them at home with special ingredients 😊 I guess it's the same story with your other suggestions 😊 Skip the BBQ sauce on the Texas Ribs(where should he have found those anyway?)? 😊 Use an air fryer for the shrimp scampi? 😊 It obvious that you are short of a sandwich for your picnic and that you are unable to admit that you made a mistake. You cannot find even a single reference to substantiate your claim. Only link after link that confirm exactly the opposite 😊 Anyway, only a complete retard would want a 'healthy' cheeseburger. If I have one, I want the meat to be juicy with a high quality cheese such as a Gruyère. That's the point. It's not something that you'll eat every day because it's not a health food, it's a tasty food. That's where you went wrong, claiming they were 'healthy' foods, as opposed to 'tasty' foods. Then you might have had some agreement. Instead you just made yourself look like a crazy....again 😊 https://michaelkummer.com/is-pizza-healthy/ Take it easy man. Don't stretch the same stupid argument into another day. Admit(at least to yourself) that you might have made a mistake. It's okay, we are human. We make mistakes and learn from them.

60 years you say? I was of the belief that the pictures of food that you posted where the efforts of a retiree who was learning how to cook via YouTube. I didn't see anything that indicated vast experience. Training wasn't my job nor career. It was just a part of my life. Maybe you can use your vast experience to help everyone out with healthy versions of the dishes mentioned by @fredwiggy so that we can make them in Thailand. It should be child's play to you.

Another one? 😊 Neither of you have managed to come up with any references to back up the claims of NY Pizza, Cheese burgers and shrimp scampi being healthy choices. Not even a single reference. But yet you try to suggest that I am mistaken. 😊 Why @fredwiggy even brought it up in the first place is strange enough. Where did he think @thaibeachlovers was going to source them? 😊

Perhaps you missed @fredwiggy clownish pronouncements of me not knowing anything about nutrition, with him being the preeminent reference for all things nutritional. He neglected to ask and instead assumed he knew best. Just like his foolish claims that NY pizza, shrimp scampi and cheese burgers are healthy foodstuffs. Equally ridiculous, was your agreeing with him. 😊 I trained for both.

@fredwiggy I trained at a world class level for a number of years. I need 3x the calorific intake of a normal male. Unlike yourself, I actually know what I write about, where is clear that you rely on a bluffer's guide. if you were right, then it stands to reason that there would be a body of professionals who would agree with you that NY Pizza, cheese burgers and shrimp scampi were all healthy choices. But, as expected, you cannot find any source that backs up your assertion. That means it's just you. A narcissist who truly believes that he knows better than everyone else. I cannot help you further.

No. There was no tie, it's marketing. You really don't have a clue. Please show me the articles that assert that NY style pizza, Cheese burgers and shrimp scampi are healthy foods. You told @thaibeachlovers that those were all healthy foods. Show him the definitive proof. So far the links you have supplied have suggested exactly the opposite. Where can he go for the healthy versions? Anywhere in Thailand? Show us a recipe for a healthy cheeseburger, NY Pizza and shrimp scampi. Something not quite right with you....

So let's add it to cereal 🤣 I just add fruit to my cereal. That is the healthy choice.

Where do you get off from assuming and writing that rubbish? You just cannot help yourself can you? You don't even have the slightest clue about me, yet you have repeated that utter rubbish at least five times. You are an obsessive. You cannot let it go, no matter how wrong you are and how ridiculous you appear. I've seen the same from you in relationship discussions. On and on.... You just post rubbish and double down on your nonsense. Like your insistence that anyone coming from Italy to the USA, automatically can produce identical pizza to the best in Italy 😊 You think because you write it or read something something somewhere, it becomes a fait accompli. But you actually don't know anything at all. Value. Thailand. I don't want to read anything more about you. You are coming over like an obsessive narcissist. You just live in your little bubble, but haven't really been anywhere at all.

....and do please take your own advice about assuming what other people know. You are clearly an obsessive.

Why do you ramble on, trying to defend the indefensible? What is the health reason to add Erythritol to cereal? Eat whatever crap that you want to eat. Just don't try to shove it down other people's throats. It's crap. I stopped eating breaded scampi when I was still a teenager. Ditto anything resembling an American pizza. In fact I don't think there is even a single product in my food cupboards from the USA. I did buy Bertolli EVOO once. Not great. I'm happy that you are happy with your condition. But your ideas about what is healthy are just weird. NY Pizza 🤣 You don't seem to be able to take a hint do you? If you can continue with reference to "value for money in Thailand" then fine. But it really seems to be all about your ego. No one believes NY Pizza and cheese burgers are healthy foods. Just you.

Blah blah..... Why have sugar alcohol AT ALL? I haven't assumed anything. I've simply commented on what you actually wrote. Which was purely nonsense. NY style pizza, shrimp scampi etc and claiming it is healthy. Idiocy IMHO.

Certainly cannot trust your 'advice' 😊

NO sugar, not LOW sugar. Yours had alcohol sugars added. The Norwegian example had nothing added. You are in serious denial because you have convinced yourself that you already know everything. But you understand very little. Corporates rule the roost over there and have the rules bent in their favour. That's why we in Europe fight to keep our food standards and refuse your crap.