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You just made that all up... You haven't shown any evidence of any 2002 'ties' whatever that means. Also in the same post you jumped from ten to twelve times....pure hyberbole. You've shown that you aren't a poster to be taken seriously. Just a shill...
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Perhaps you can copy the relevant passage here. I cannot see anything that correlates to your assertion. It seems that it is you who is attempting to misrepresent. You've posted a link but no relevant statement. Please copy and paste the relevant passage here.
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I don't think anyone has failed to notice your warlike tone and that any cogent argument, replete with sources and timelines has all but disappeared from your rants.
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So the "brothers", the "one people"...all just empty words.... The willingness to kill your brothers because they don't want to do what you want. Got it.
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Keyboard warrior....
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What were those interests when they annexed Crimea? Let's leave your whataboutery out of it. It's childish...like in a playground. Raise your level... "This means I have won" 😊 ...or it could mean that I think you a total idiot. You can choose.
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I don't see an answer to my question to you in this latest rant. Independent, as long as they align with Russia...got it 😊
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You are just rattling off nonsense with no sources nor timelines. Posting as quickly as you can with no brain at all. It's showing....and I'm going. Put together something intelligent and I'll take a look later. Right now, it's just pathetic ramblings.
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You just fully immersed yourself into keyboard warrior status. You don't even try to have an intelligent debate anymore. You've fully accepted that Putin is a warmonger.
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Independence; 1991. Now it's 2024...where are the nuclear weapons that the 'many' Ukrainian politicians called for? When exactly did Ukraine entertain NATO membership? Before Russia annexed Crimea? Your spurious accusations lack a timeline. I suspect that you are just babbling...
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No, it didn't imply that at all....again more 'filling in the gaps' by yourself. It was explicitly stated that Ukraine would not join NATO. They didn't even apply until after Russia invaded. Just a convenient scapegoat. They did not want Ukraine becoming independently pro-Western. Now you insult the Ukrainian peoples by suggesting they are not the smartest? Low.... Just another keyboard warrior...
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Ridiculous, it's 5,000 words and you try to compress it into one line. Idiotic, you didn't read it at all. Perhaps just read the Dummy's Guide To... Conveniently ignoring that the Ukrainian people CHOSE to be pro-Western.
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Gary Lineker cannot publish a political editorial on the BBC. Show me even a single BBC article that mirrors what was published by the Russian propagandists.
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What does respecting Ukraine's safety mean in real terms? You tell me. So far we agree that he doesn't want Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia etc to become independent and that he annexed Crimea and wants to annex the Donbass. So about what are we arguing? you have agreed with everything that I have written. The difference is that you are blaming the 'west' for everything.
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So we have a war. Poking with a stick is just your analogy. If you aren't against countries becoming independent, but Putin IS against it, then what?
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I understand the perspective and that is why I can quote from both sides. Have you not noticed?
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....and yet the Ukrainians wanted independence and chose to be pro-Western....
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They already had nuclear weapons in Ukraine, remember? 1700 of them. They were removed upon independence in exchange for security assurances. Russia violated that agreement with the annexation of Crimea.
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"Today, these words may be perceived by some people with hostility. They can be interpreted in many possible ways. Yet, many people will hear me. And I will say one thing – Russia has never been and will never be ”anti-Ukraine“. And what Ukraine will be – it is up to its citizens to decide." Citizens decided to be pro-western.... didn't they? He didn't like that very much.
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He also wrote that Ukraine does not need Donbass. I didn't mention Poland, try to keep on track. So they understood he was on to annex the Donbass next. Western propaganda or reality?
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These are state agencies, not independent newspapers. They comments are in line with the treatise that Vladimir Putin published....which you clearly have not read....
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Please illustrate even a single post where I have suggested Russia bad, Ukraine good. That is just a fantasy in your little brain. I have done no such thing. If I did accuse other posters of swallowing propaganda, it was because of the way that they worded their responses. A dead giveaway.
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What fresh kind of foolishness is this? I've read Mearsheimer. Does it change something? Are you against countries becoming independent? Mentioning NATO is simply a smokescreen. Of course if Russia does not want Georgia and Ukraine to become independent nations, he will work to destabilise that. Does it make him the good guy and the west bad for supporting their independence? I'm not arguing for either side, but you seem to be completely lopsided.
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Again, I have read Putin's treatise. From the horse's mouth so to speak. What western propaganda can you claim that you know that I have read? None at all. It was just another empty and foolish statement on your part. Keep to facts, rather than your continued speculation about what you think that I have read or not.
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I pose the same question to you, as to @Gweiloman. How do you explain the Russian propaganda that agrees with my viewpoint? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr_Akopov
