CLASBYCLAN

Great Account!

I had exactly the same experience with UK dentists, every time I went the dentist filled my mouth with mercury! I'm sure it's something to do with getting commission as a national health dentist.

I used to hate going to the dentist, but now I love going for cleaning, they do such a good job at Grace, your teeth feel all shiny and new!

I'm thinking of getting a brace, has anyone had experience with that at Grace?

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Thanks for the scans!

Where do you go to take a driving test?

Sounds like your landlady became accustomed to the extra income each month, and when faced with the prospect of losing it, decided she owed herself whatever further cash she could get out of you. This is why she was so quick to revert to the old rent when you told her you were moving out. I don't think this has anything to do with different interpretations of a law or lease, just greed.

I completely agree!

The trails and tribulations of doing business in Thailand. Why not have a walk thru with the lady prior to moving out? If you put down 90,000 as a deposit on a 30,000/ month rental you were ill informed of Thai law concerning rental property, deposits etc. Someone mentioned the lady (landlord) must be wealthy to own a property renting for 30,000/mo. I am more inclined to view her as a astute business lady who will charge and handle baht as the market will bear, in your case its a heavy load. depending on your pocket book etc. I think you have probably learned a few things from this experience. Sorry for the lack of sympathy, but did you read the contract and or ask for advice before moving in? If you gave notice of moving out the first and last months rent would have been used and only deposit would have been in question.

I did walk through the house with her, the first point she made was that a light on the drive did not come on, I said that maybe the bulb had gone, she said she would get her electrician to come and give her a quote to fix it, at which point I realised that she was going to be, for want of a better word, a dick. She did not point out any other problems with the house.

How was I I'll informed, she wanted a three month deposit, I paid it, In England the deposit is returned after you leave the property. I gave her at least two months notice, just encase there was a problem, even though the contract does not state that I need to do so.

Hey Miltonbentely, sounds like exactly the same situation and I do feel ripped off! I thought that we had a good relationship as well and I even posted an add on the classified email advertising the house, now I hope that no one gives her the satisfaction of rental income! I think your right about not going to court, think I'll just pour myself a large glass of wine instead!!

Ahem...if that ad is on Thai Visa's classified ad section, I would be happy to get it deleted.....

No it's not, its on the chiang mai classified email, I will delete it.

I had exactly the same situation when I moved out in March. We had looked after the house, paid for repairs but similarly a Hi-So Thai and he wanted hi house totally repainted and cost us two thirds of our deposit.

You have my utmost sympathy ClasbyClan - it is a total rip-off pure and simple.

However I think the chances of you getting anything back even if you have the best lawyer in town is absolutely minimal. My advice is to walk away however angry you feel.

I take my pleasure from the fact that we would have stayed at our old house if the landlord had not wanted to put the rent up and it still empty 4 months after we left. Even if he gets tenants in at the higher rent tomorrow it will take him three and a half years to make his money back from the time the house has been empty.

Hey Miltonbentely, sounds like exactly the same situation and I do feel ripped off! I thought that we had a good relationship as well and I even posted an add on the classified email advertising the house, now I hope that no one gives her the satisfaction of rental income! I think your right about not going to court, think I'll just pour myself a large glass of wine instead!!

The typical attitude here held by people who rent things (houses, motorbikes, apartments) seems to be that their asset will not require any maintenance and will not depreciate in any way. This was brought home to me when the kick start fell off a bike I had rented after just a few hours of use - totally nothing to do with me and absolutely down to a missing retaining clip, not easily noticed when checking the bike before renting. The owner simply refused to grasp the concept that the basic maintenance of the bike was down to him and since my passport was being held hostage I had to have it replaced - more of an inconvenience than an expense as it turned out, but a valuable lesson. You have to wonder what would happen if they had given me the bike on a one day rental with insufficient oil - you have been warned!

As far as houses go, a really meticulous inventory with lots of pictures is about the best you can rely on. I'm surprised she can claim the garden is dry in the middle of the rainy season even though it's not been that wet this year. Also, a landlord trying to put up the rent by 30% in today's climate sounds a little unrealistic in any case unless you got some kind of a first year deal.

Yes Greenside! That is exactly my point! things depreciate, and the sad fact is that we only decided to move because of the 30% increase in rent, when we told her that we had found another house she said "ok I will keep the rent the same" , realising that she had made a mistake, but it was too late as I had already placed a deposit for the new house, luckily only a two month deposit this time!!!

That woman is rich if she has a house for rent for 30.000 baht a month...

In Thailand that means that you know a lot of important people... the more important people you know........the better it is for her!!!

Just accept you will not get your money back.... learn from this... and the next time just do not pay your last month's of rent....

I don't know if she is rich, but I know she is a nose and throat doctor! If only I had known about not paying the last months rent, sadly I will definitely be doing that next time! Thank you.

Most of the cost was probably for the painting. Did you go back to see if the repainting was done? Do you have any photographs (or possibly witnesses) to verify the condition of the house and garden when you moved in and when you moved out? Something that would stand up in court so that it would be strong enough to possibly cause the landlord to respond or negotiate? Do you have a legal document that describes the deposit and how it will be handled in detail?

I do not think you should end up in court but you do need a case which is more than just your word against theirs. Kind of hard to figure why you should pay for full exterior painting after living there one year.

Next time do not leave such a big deposit or use it up by not paying the last few months rent.

Thanks, yes, it sounds like she had a guy come in and do all of the paint work that she wanted to do, and then she has charged me for it. My point is that if you rent a house to a family it will have wear and tear, as the house I have moved into has, I don't think it needed painting at all, and as for the garden, how am I responsible for the weather! She has basically made me pay for completely redecorating the whole house.

Hi Guys

I rented a house, 9/33 Moo Baan Ing Doi, for one year, I paid a 90,000 bht deposit and 30,000 every month. I had a maid that cleaned the house and used a gardening company that came 3 times a month. Whilst at the property I paid for repairs and any damages. When I left the house was spotless.

I moved house as the landlady wanted us to pay 40,000 bht a month or 30,000 if we would sign a 5 year contract and we would have to pay a 5 year deposit!! I know!! So we simply found a new house.

I was shocked when I went to the bank yesterday to find that the landlady had refunded 52,000 from my 90,000 deposit! I called her and she said that she had to repaint the house, inside and out, repair the garden as the grass was dry and pay an electricity bill, totalling 38,000!!!

Obviously I am angry, I have heard of people not getting their deposits back, and was expecting to loose a few thousand but 38,000!!!

Any advice greatly appreciated!!!!

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I have a Phil and Teds imported from New Zealand 3 wheeler tandem off road buggy/stoller/pram for sale, suitable from birth upwards plus extras, rain cover uv mosquito net , two bags for the sides and sheepskin seats. Paid around 400 pounds, would like around 10,000 bht.

I'm located in Chiang Mai.

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Yes, I have to agree I'm afraid. I also go because my Son's love animals, and I really thought that the mono rail may help improve the Zoo, but it's scary to be honest, reminds me of a Simpsons episode! (probably have to be a Simpsons fan to get what I mean!).

It's such a shame because it could and should be so good there, but it's so far to walk round, the mono rail is scary and I don't think you can take cars in now. The animals are a dissapointment and the building works, mess and sad animals don't help to make a visit there a great experience.

I know someoene in another thread about the Zoo said that instead of complaining we should tell the Zoo how to improve, but I think the whole Zoo needs changing.

I like the lake at the night safari for kids, easy walk, beautiful views and healthy fun animals.

Please help guys, an add was placed for a yard sale at Thanawan Village, San Pee Sua, the phone number given is not working and I have no idea where Thanawan village is, any general ideas of the location greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Can anyone tell me of shops in CM that sell good fitting ladys clothes as shops i have been to are very small sizes, Uk size 12 to 14

There's a little shop called SIZE UP on the Nimmenheimen Road.

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I need a removal company with a big truck and lots of strong and carefull workers to move a house full of furniture from one moo baan to another in Chiang Mai.

Can you please suggest a company and also how much should I expect to pay.

I have 2 king size beds, a childrens furniture set, 3 sofas, tv, wardrobes, garden furniture, an enormous fridge and garden furniture.

Thank you

Wow, here was a new one for me: The Mae Rim Tiger Park & Restaurant.

In Thai, but click on the Tiger Kingdom link for photos.

I couldn't believe it until Id seen it with my own eyes & it's for real.

Excellent food & service, & worth checking out with the kids.

Anyone else been out there?

Sorry no photos, because I didn't have my camera as I'd just ducked out for a beer & bike test ride. You know how it goes.

Can you tell me how to get there please? My son loves tigers and I love beer!

In the end we went with Khun Tan (pronounced "Darn") from SB @ HomePro however. They dont' have any kitchens on actual display there (I did go to BKK to view their fit/finish in person however) so you'll have to go up to the fitted closets section to find him. He was the only consultant that truly understood where we were coming from - no struggle there at all (for a change), and he managed to get the price down from 240K to 160K through discounts and creatively massaging the design.

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How do I get in contact with Khun Tan , SB @ Homepro, do you have contact details or are they based at Homepro? Also, are you pleased with your kitchen?

Thanks!

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I am thinking of renting a house that I would need to install a new kitchen in. Can you tell me if you had your kitchen fitted by Homikitch and if you are pleased with the results?

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Vieng Ping Children’s Home, 63/3 Moo 4 Donkaew, Maerim, Chiang Mai 50180; tel 053-236-049/211877; fax 053-220-802

roast chicken breast, chips, peas and gravy

egg, chips, sausage and baked beans

chicken pie, mash potatoes and gravy

roast beef, yorkshire puddings, roast potatoes cabbage

apple pie and custard

rhubarb crumble with icecream

the sausages have to be real pork sausages, good quality, and the chips fresh chunky deep fried.

It's great that you want to keep the food competitive, I don't mind paying a bit extra if I know that the ingrediants are fresh, home made, real pork so on..

Good luck x

I think the magazine looks good and tells me every event taking place....

leally? rofl

All the events worth going to..

I LOVE Citylife magazine!

I was really pleased when I found the magazine when I first arrived in Chiang Mai! I have subscribed and I keep all of the issues for reference. I think the magazine looks good and tells me every event taking place in the city as well as special promotions.

I also use the website regularly for restaurant reviews and outing suggestions. It's also been a great networking tool for me through the classified section, so on.

I think the articles are interesting and relevant to whats happening in the city and in expat life. If you want serious news updates I think you should read the Bangkok Post.

Merry Chistmas x

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I am new to Chiangmai. I am looking to meet up with mothers and expectant mothers. I just found out I am pregnant and I would love to connect with people in the same situation. I have found a website for parents in Chiangmai, but the forums are full of pornography and do not address the topics listed. If you have any information mother's groups or if we can start a group if one doesn't exist, I am most definitely interested.

Thank you.

Hi, I found that website too, it's disgusting, I sent a complaint to the police. I don't understand why a company still provides hosting for it!

www.sanookbook.com is very good.

HI GUYS AND THANKS FOR LOOKING,

COULD YOU HELP US FILL OUR 4 DAYS IN CHIANG MAI ,

FRI +SAT +SUN+MON

ONLY THING BOOKED SO FAR IS WE RENEWING OUR VOWS ON SAT WOULD LOVE A GOOD EAT FOR SAT NIGHT

HOTEL TRI GONG ANY ONE KNOW WHERE THIS THIS ? WHATS IT NEAR TO ECT ?ANYGOOD ?

LOOKING FOR NIGHTS OUT GOOD EATING PLACES , TRIPS ECT -GIVE ME SOME TIPS PLEASE AND THANKS .

Le Crystal for romance, went their for my anniversary, is quite expensive but oustanding food and ambience, also free pick up.

http://www.lecrystalrestaurant.com/

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I use skype everyday to call the UK and Iraq. It's very cheap and easy to download and top up with credit.