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Chiang Mai. It didn't count for me. Hmm, I might have dug my own grave, as it were. I put my date of entry as August (the true date of entry) and not the date I got the visa extension. The officer told me the extension doesn't count but perhaps it wouldn't have been an issue if I had put the extension date. But that would not have been a truthful answer to when I entered Thailand. I'm 2000 baht lighter now. That much I know.

This is surely all over the forum but I missed this info somehow. So I'm repeating it here in case it benefits somebody. I got a visa extension about 3 months ago and thought that would count as a 90 day report. When I went to do my 90 day report recently, surprise to me, I had to pay 2000 baht for overstay. My last entry into Thailand was in August and that's when the 90 days started. My visa extension in September had no bearing on it. It doesn't really make sense to me as the visa extension goes a lot further in proving where you are and what you are doing. But alas, it seems the two systems operate independently. Take heed.

Hello friends, Is this border crossing currently open for an exit Thailand/Re-enter Thailand with new stamp scenario? This would be two Yanks. One with retirement visa the other has some kind of a tourist entry. This would be toward the latter part of next month, December. Info online was, per usual, extremely scattered/old/impossible to interpret. Many thank! Bamboozled.

18,000 baht.

Hi Sheryl, I have and blood was fine but that was 8 months ago now. I'm primed to do another overall checkup but wanted to talk to a doctor first to see if there were any tests I should add. A thyroid test 2 weeks ago showed 0.82 free T4 with the minimum being 0.78. That's the lowest it's been. I have been taking Levothyroxine for 2 weeks and waiting to feel the effect. The doctor didn't think I needed it but I "convinced" her that it was worth trying the meds to see if it helped. My sister has Hashimoto's. I very often get swollen lymph nodes in my neck and a slight sore throat in the afternoon. Along with the fatigue. It's almost like clockwork. Feels like I am getting the flu. But I've learned to ignore it and carry on the best I can and by later in the evening the glands seem to get better. Reading about ME/CFS, they talk about such a thing. I also had dengue 15 years ago which perhaps could have been the trigger. I have always maintained I never felt quite the same after it. I will let you know if I find some info in CM. Thank you.

I might try my luck here in CM and if no results/answers then to Bkk might be the plan.

I understand. Thanks. I don't understand it either.

Sounds like you're good to go. I don't think they want downloaded from internet as it doesn't have the official bank stamp. ...I would guess.

Thank you, all. I will def get a re-entry permit then, just to bat my eyelashes at as I dream where I might go. Nice to have that to cover any mistakes or spur of the moment cross-border love affairs.

Right but...I'm always worried I'll forget or be in a rush or perhaps I"m hanging out in a border town and pop across a border forgetting that I don't have a re-entry. When one gets a single re-entry permit, can it be open and used whenever or does one have to specify the trip and time?

I had all the Wise printed out but they didn't need them. Which of your statements show International? I think you're good. You could ask you bank if there was an intermediary bank between your account and Wise. If not, I think you're golden. At least for CM rules, that day, with that officer. 2 years ago, when my transfers got rejected, I tried to show the Wise documents but officer wouldn't even look at them.

For the past year up until this month, I have had a retirement visa, my first one, having switched from a visa based on marriage. Last week, I got my first 1-year EXTENSION to that visa. I make the distinction between first visa and first visa extension because the rules can be slightly different for those two things, if I'm not mistaken. Particularly in regard to finances and/or which method you use. Anyhow... I'm going to say what I submitted which resulted in getting the extension. This is not to say you can submit the same things and get the same result nor that you won't be asked to submit something more or different. 1. TM.7 application form (available outside Immi under the tent) which requires a 4 x 6 cm passport type photo of you. You can make the photo behind immigration (for a price) as well as make any copies you need. Bear in mind there is often a long line. 2. STM.2 form Acknowledgement of Terms and Conditions for Permit of Temporary Stay in the Kingdom of Thailand form (available outside Immi under the tent). Just put your signature on it. 3. Form called The Acknowledgment of Penalites for a Visa Overstay (available outside Immi under the tent). Just sign it. 4. Passport 5. Copy of passport. I copied every page that had stamps on it (plus the info page). Not sure all pages are necessary but they kept them all. 6. Copy of TM30 (copy of TM47 they gave back to me...didn't want it) 7. Copy of rental contract. I've been in the same house for years but the contract is old and doesn't have a current date on it. We've never updated the rental contract. 8. Financial requirements. This is a little bit confusing to explain so bear with me, please. This seems to be the most onerous part of getting the visa and it screwed me up in years past when the Immi agent would not accept my 12 months of deposits because the path from abroad wasn't clear enough for him. So, I used the 65k per month deposit method. That is, for the past 12 months, I have deposited at least 65k in my Thai bank account in a single, monthly transaction (not 35k and then 30k a week later...I don't know if that is an issue for Immi or not but I did it in ONE transaction). I used Wise and sent the money from my US account. The day for this transaction changed every month and was not the 15th of each month, for example. I use Kbank here and I use this account ONLY for the monthly deposits. It makes it easy for Immi to see them. NOTE WELL: The deposits on the Wise receipt and the Kbank receipt showed as LOCAL transactions and not foreign transaction. Thanks to a kind member on this forum, I learned that if you print out your Kbank statements in Thai, they will show as foreign transactions...bingo! At least, that was true in my case. I went to my branch of Kasikorn bank the day before my application and got a letter stating that I have an account there. I also got my statement printed out for the last 12 months, in THAI LANGUAGE. I'm not sure they can print out more than one year so be careful and don't do this application late. I had them update my bankbook and I photocopied the first page and all pages with information on them. Note that I rarely, rarely update my bankbook and when you give the bank the book to update it they do not print out each transaction that you made via ATM or online. They update with just recent transactions and show the balance ON THE DAY YOU MADE YOUR LAST TRANSACTION. This is important to note because though I updated my bankbook the day before the application, the date on it showed almost a week earlier...which was the date of my last deposit. The Immi officer called me on that and I was stumped at first. I tried to explain that I had just updated it and that it just shows the date of last transaction but he said no, that's not how it usually works. Anyway, luckily, he didn't refuse me but to avoid this situation, make sure you make a transaction the day that you update your bankbook (even just a 100 baht deposit) so the bankbook will show the correct date of the update...phew. So...I submitted my bankbook which had been updated recently (see above) and showed my account balance which was about 12k. I also submitted a printout of 12 months of statements showing the 65k deposits each month, in Thai. And a letter from the bank saying I had a functioning account there. I went to immigration at about 7:15 and got a cue number to get a preliminary check of my documents outside under the tent. I was B20. At about 8:45 or 9 I was called up. The officer looked quite a long time at my bank documents and told me I was missing something. I couldn't understand what she needed so she wrote in Thai on a piece of paper and told me to go back to my bank and show them this. She also showed me a cue number and told me to come back and see her at 2pm with the correct document and come straight to the window and she would give me this new cue number for inside the Immigration building (to save me time). I wasn't quite sure what I was missing but I went back to Kbank and showed them the slip. They were also initially confused but after asking around someone in the know told me I had to go to the Tha Phae branch to get what I needed. What I understand from this is that Wise sent all my foreign deposits to the Kbank on Tha Phae road (their "way station") after which that Kbank sent them to the branch where I have my account. So Kbank Tha Phae printed out another 12 months of statements, in Thai, to confirm that my deposits had come from a foreign source. I went back to Immi, got my new cue number for inside. The officer perused a long time the bank documents and asked me about the update to the passbook, as noted above, but luckily in the end accepted my documents. This wait was about 2 hours, perhaps a bit less. 1900 baht. Apologies for the convoluted story of the bank issues. Please ask if it's not clear. Lastly, I asked for multi-entry but apparently this is not done at the same time and to get that I will have to go back and stand in line again with a new cue number. Cheers, Bam

Hi all, I received my new extension last week. I will post how I got it in a new thread as to make it more accessible to folks that might need that info. Cheers, Bam

I don't know that I have the above mentioned affliction and I sure hope I don't. But I would like a doctor attuned to these things to confirm that. GPs and health check-ups have not led to any clues as to why I'm so wiped out all the time. I think a diagnosis of ME/CFS is in the field of a neurologist. Anyone in town, in particular, to whom I might direct my query? Thank you.

Always the great, big, unknown...