JonnyF

9 hours ago, Broken Record said:

Smoking, it was advertised  as manly or sophisticated even sexy, ( It Stinks). Now people have more knowledge and people know how damaging it is, yet people still smoke, that's how stupid some people are, so they have to be protected from themselves.

Alcohol is similar, it's associated with fun, good times, also seen as manly or even sexy or sophisticated, certainly was before TV advertising was stopped, yet is a drug that causes untold misery for Millions of people directly or indirectly, yet it's still legal in most places. 

The Tobacco industry is a powerful entity that manages to produce a product that kills millions of people each and every year, totally legal, to me that is total insanity.

Between the two, they are involved in the deaths of around 9 Million people a year, every year.

If I made a drug that would kill 9 Million people a year, what do reckon my chances would be of selling it legally ?

Smoking should be number one on the list to Ban, with immediate effect saving millions of lives a year, addicts will whine about it, but they need enforcement , they are too stupid to stop themselves.

Then Alcohol would be number two on the list, also saving Millions of people a year who are affected directly or indirectly, I personally have seen the terrible effects, the human cost of this dangerous drug, stop the madness Khun Prayut Chan-O-Cha, it kills many Thai citizens every year, time for it to be stopped.

I'd ban both if I was in office.

 

 

 

 

 

You clearly don't believe in liberty and personal responsibility. You can't simply ban everything that is dangerous. You'd end up banning rock climbing, boxing, fatty foods, motorsports etc. Just let people out of their homes to work and pay taxes then lock them up again. Much like the past 2 years actually.

They key is to educate people about the dangers. After that, it is their choice. Your overly authoritarian stance has been tried and failed many times. If you look at the 12 early signs of fascism it's clear to see that Thailand doesn't need to go any further down that road. In fact, the list could almost be describing the current regime. I'd give them a solid 10/12. 

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/01/31/the-12-early-warning-signs-of-fascism/

I'm double vaxxed with AZ and my life is nowhere near back to normal. 

I'm still walking around with a mask on 14 hours a day, it's difficult for me to visit friends around Thailand, I can't easily go to visit my family because the UK doesn't recognize Thai implemented vaccines, nightlife is completely dead and 4 hours ago I had a swab shoved about 3 inches up my nose, again.

Normal?

Should definitely be legal. They helped me quit. First I went from normal cigarettes to 50% vaping/50% normal cigarettes. Then I went 100% vaping, then I stopped vaping. Haven't smoked in about 6 years now.

The only reason they are illegal is because of a concern of a loss of tax revenue. They'd rather people died of lung/throat cancer than lose the revenue stream.

With the bans on Chinese travel abroad and the CCP making it much more difficult for citizens to get money out of China (especially for buying offshore property), it does seem that maybe Thailand has been backing the wrong horse. 

Such a shame....

Given there are so many unofficial ripoffs in LOS, it's good to see more official, state sanctioned ripoffs to even things up a bit.

Seriously though, I do question the timing. They should be begging people to come, not taxing them to do so.

Surely China has an inferior version that Thailand can buy at twice the price?

57 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

While there are injustices and inequalities in Thailand which we can all provide examples for, for the most part, foreigners are treated fairly and when balanced of mind we can all provide examples of that. 

 

Well I'm sure we can all provide many examples of foreigners not being treated fairly at all. The recent court ruling on the guy being charged extra for life saving medical treatment for cancer is a fairly obvious, and distasteful example.

I'm fairly sure many Burmese living in Thailand would also probably beg to differ with you on that. A lot of them are treated disgracefully. Modern day slave labour which is rightly condemned by most when balanced of mind.

25 minutes ago, petermik said:

Doubtful if the relatives would accept that he is responsible for for his own demise unless substantial compensation is offered....personally I would get out of the area ASAP if he is cleared with or without the wife.

Yep, next time they're having a family gathering and all the male relatives have had a few whiskeys it might be prudent for him to stay somewhere else for the night.  

Whatever the reason for the Thai guy breaking in with a gun, he got what he deserved. It really doesn't matter whether it was for money or to kill the woman's husband for 'romantic' reasons.

If this had been a Farang breaking in and getting killed by the Thai defending his property the Thai would be lauded by his countrymen as brave, strong, noble etc. But no, the swiss guy is arrested. What's worse, if the Thai had injured the farang then the farang would have been charged extra for his medical treatment due to his nationality/ethnicity because he must be rich and it's "good for Thailand". What a joke.

I'm genuinely starting to question my future in this place. I've had a good run but I'm really starting to wonder if I can stay long term given recent events.

I remember riding back from Rayong to Bangkok on my bike one Sunday, I stopped next to an old rusty pickup at a red light at about 9:30am and he wound the window down and stuck his hand out to offer me a swig of his half drunk bottle of Chang.

He was absolutely wasted. Could barely sit upright.

What was even worse, the lights turned green before I could remove my helmet to have a swig.????

Hopefully this becomes a regular occurrence.

9 minutes ago, SooKee said:

They seem to have a knack for opening places up while at the same time keeping the user experience as miserable as possible.  I'm surprised they even allowed the screening of movies in cinemas.  There's open and there's OPEN. 

The Covid czar believes that pleasure is the road to damnation.

He believes that his children (the people of Thailand) exist to work for the benefit of the elites in Thailand, not to have fun.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Examples (other than national parks etc)

I read this often but seriously I don't buy it

Google Erwin Buse. He had to pay more for cancer treatment due to being a foreigner and the court upheld it because it "benefits Thailand".

Is such a clear example visible through those rose tinted glasses?

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/court-rules-for-health-ministry-calls-dual-pricing-beneficial

Apparantly, you're perfectly safe in a restaurant drinking a Coke, but as soon as a beer arrives on the table Covid immediately joins and infects you (unless you're in Phuket. Covid doesn't drink when he's in Phuket). A glass of soda is fine, but add a shot of Vodka and whaddya know? Covid is back. 

Drinking coffee in an indoor, air conditioned coffee shop is safe. But drinking beer at an outdoor venue or even on the beach is dangerous.

Yep, makes perfect sense. 

What do you expect with headlines like this?

Not sure I'd trust this company with my hard earned cash.

Have they refunded all the previously paid for tickets that were cancelled yet? Do they have sufficient funds to refund any future cancellations caused by future waves of the virus? Am I going to lose my seat to the daughter of some General on the board who decides to fly at the last minute?

I think I'll be choosing other airlines until they've sorted themselves out.

A very sensible decision.

Let's hope some of the other provinces follow suit. Using Covid as an excuse to launch a war on alcohol was never a good idea. The PM's personal crusade to appear virtuous and puritanical will have to go on the backburner.

Hopefully this will get more people going out to eat and allow the restaurant owners to start earning a living again.