JonnyF

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Apparently this is your reflexive response to any mention of the ex Potus. Sometimes it's valid, sometimes it's not. In this case, not.  What don't you understand about the fact that I didn't divert the thread? Someone raised the question of the USA's poor performance as a reason to doubt the wisdom of its scientific establishment. If you have any issue with anyone, it's the person who raised doubts about the USA's performance.

Actually, You raised the subject of US policy towards mixed doses in an attempt to justify reduced doses in Thailand. I queried the validity of using US policy on mixed doses to justify Thailand's policy on reduced doses, especially given the US poor record on COVID. You drifted even further to start talking about the former POTUS.

You seem to think the world revolves around the good ol' US of A and it's former president. But this thread is about Thailand so let's stay on topic.

Just now, placeholder said:

Really? I relied to someone who said the US can't be trusted because of its substandard response to the covid pandemic. If you don't think that the ex potus had a lot to do with that, you hadn't been paying attention to him during the last year of his term in office.

Once again, diverting the thread onto some weird obsession with a former US president.

This thread has nothing to do with US politics, it only veered in that direction when you implied that reduced doses of vaccines in Thailand is safe because US immigration accepts mixed (not reduced) doses.  Even that link was beyond tenuous and yet you stretched it even further to try and bring an ex POTUS into it. I think he's got enough properties in his portfolio, he doesn't need to live rent free in your head ????.  

13 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Because the point was raised. And  do you think that the US response might have had just a little something to do with the denialism of the previous occupant of the White House? Just a little?

I think you're trying to divert the thread onto your dislike of a certain US politician. This thread has nothing to do with US politics.

Nice try though. Actually, not really.

20 minutes ago, Pravda said:

How does Vietnam have the same amount of deaths?

Ummm, like this?

Not sure how I could make it any clearer.

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The USA has announced that for those journeying to the USA,  it will accepts mixed vaccinations and all vaccines approved by the WHO. 

This thread is about reduced doses, not mixed doses.

Not sure why you'd cite the US as an example anyway. It's not exactly the gold standard in terms of Covid response given it's got the most cases of any country in the entire world. It's basically an example of what NOT to do.

Besides, I thought the point of the vaccine is to provide protection from the virus, not to enter the US. 

16 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What is a Thai-administered vaccine? Manufactured in Thailand? Many wealthy countries have rules about certifying vaccines manufactured abroad. Thailand is no different in this regard from other countries.

By Thai administered I mean the jab goes into the arm within the borders of Thailand. Completely different to the country of manufacture, I'd have thought that was obvious.

Thai administered means you can have a perfectly good vaccine that has been compromised by reduced/diluted doses, different methods of injection (into muscle, under skin etc.). You know, all those dodgy untested shortcuts that save money at the potential risk of the patient.

Very odd when you compare Vietnam and Thailand.

Thailand with over 3 times as many total cases but almost exactly the same number of deaths.

Makes me wonder. Is Vietnam under-reporting cases? Is Thailand under-reporting deaths? Or do those magic amulets work after all?

Just now, tonray said:

Takes about 48 hours from generation of yellow certificate to show  up in Mor Prom app. I got vaxxed Sunday...showed up this morning.

My colleagues had it show up in the app within 20 minutes, while we were all still in the observation area.

I asked why mine hadn't shown up and they told me it took 24 hours. That was on 20th September. I think there will be a few of us going back, others had their names spelt incorrectly.

No wonder other countries have been refusing to accept Thai administered vaccines.

Why don't they just follow the guidelines issued by the vaccine developers? Why do they always have to take shortcuts?

10 hours ago, Moonlover said:

Take both to the centre where you were vaccinated and they will rectify it. No big deal.

Depends what you consider a big deal I suppose. Taking an afternoon off work, wasting an afternoon of my life to drive through traffic to the other side of Bangkok to find a parking space, queue up for god knows how long wearing a face nappy, no doubt surrounded by other people during an airborne pandemic might not seem a big deal to you but frankly I have more productive ways to spend my time.

Maybe they could just make the app work? There's a thought. It's not a complicated piece of software to display a few pieces of information from a database. Any decent developer could write it in a couple of days.

5 hours ago, AwwYesNice1 said:

 

Maybe they will eliminate the COE as there is no way in hell they will able process the amount of request that come in.

 

 

I can just imagine the queues. It was bad enough before Covid when all they had to do was stamp the passport. They still often managed to turn that into over an hours wait before some scowling immigration official looked you up and down, read the passport back to front, stamped you in and pushed the passport back at you. 

Now with vaccine certificates, PCR tests, COE's, 2 metre social distancing etc. the queues will probably be spilling back out onto the runway if any serious numbers start to arrive. That will all be whilst wearing a mask (maybe also being sprayed by alcohol - Prayut style) having just worn one for 12+ hours on the place.

Thanks but No thanks - I'd be holidaying closer to home for a couple of years.

Well, tail tidy's enhance the aesthetics of the bike and reduce weight. I'd go as far as to say that massive piece of black plastic hanging out further than the back wheel ruins the look of many bikes. Also, I doubt that having a massive, heavy sail at the back of the bike does much for the aerodynamics (I've never seen a MotoGP bike running one).

Aftermarket exhausts also save weight, look better, make a nicer sound (if it's a decent exhaust - the Termignoni twin pipes on my Panigale sounds incredible under full load) and can also increase power although an ECU remap may be required to get the full benefit of this. I also take immense pleasure removing anything that the Fun Nazis at the EU attempts to mandate ????.

All of this applies to proper motorbikes by the way. I wouldn't do it to a moped. 

Troll post.

But to answer. Once I stopped laughing I would tell her it was a commendable effort but that she'd have to come up with a less ridiculous scenario if she expects me to fall for such a wind up.

I normally self insure but I thought it was fairly likely I would get Covid within 12 months so I took out a policy for 1000 Baht with 200,000 Baht payment if I tested positive. They sent me a cover note and promised the full policy documents within 15 days. That was in April. I've emailed them about 10 times since asking for the policy documents. No reply to my emails. Girlfriend calls them multiple times and it goes to answering machine for 30 minutes until she gives up.

If this is what Thai Covid insurance is worth, don't bother.