tatt2dude

Very normal. Usually anything under a stated value of 3500 baht comes straight to your door. Anything over requires photo i.d. usually followed by a request for you to go and pay duty in excess of 50-70% but don't worry! When you get there one of the nice customs officers will "help you" to avoid the duty.

Just check out Bira on a track day, "marshals" asleep in their boxes or the guy painting the bridge with his can of paint hanging from his belt whilst bikes race underneath at 140mph. I would wager the death toll to far exceed the IOM TT, something along the lines of the film Deathrace would be nearer the mark.

Great idea I'll enter the missus.

Withe the state of Pattaya's roads?

He could probably get between THB200 and THB350 each if he was selling to farang.This is an evil,evil drug.Maybe they were just for him?

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Do the maths... 240 tablets at say 300 baht each equals 72,000 baht.

Hardly a lottery windfall is it?

I'd guess personal usage only.

Could be personal.

Or is the real addiction for these people Pattaya itself? It seems to me that some people will do amazingly stupid things to raise cash when the money runs out. I must be missing out on a seriously good time when I am there as half the time I can't wait to get back to the UK to see my mates and do a bit of work for proper coin.

Bizarre.

"PATTAYA: -- Following orders from the new Pattaya Police Chief, Police Colonel Nantawoot, a team of Pattaya Police Officers assisted by civil volunteers, known in Thai as “O-Po-Po-Lor”, conducted a late night operation on Wednesday to clear Pattaya

Beach of Prostitutes and others suspected of loitering with intent to engage in anti-social or criminal activity."

I really like this new guy, not sure he is good for Pattaya but boy is he entertaining!

BTW how does one tell a Russian mafia prostitute from an ordinary Thai prostitute?? Serious question, but if you folks want to add punchlines, please feel free....within the rules, of course.

The Thai's are the ones with the sun-tan?

Anyway, I have enjoyed this thread, tis a little bit funny when Richard and his mates or alter egos get together and come gunning for you, isnt it?

Thanks for the multiple posts, I am still not in the slightest bit wound up, you really need to work on your internet warrior techniques, usually I bite pretty quickly but given your amateurish attempts I picture a 12 year old with a bit of a snotty nose. English skills way above your years though mate.... kudos!

I never said I was a motorcycle god/guru/ or anything of the sort, if that's how you want to view me? Well what can I say? I am flattered but slightly embarrassed you feel the need to look up to me in that way.

Just to clear up for you: I don't know Richard, or his mates and I am certainly no ones alter ego. And if you don't mind me saying so, trying to goad him back into the thread at this point is a bit trollish.

If ever you need any help with the CBR do get in touch, I raced CBR600fx's for two years, have you ever been fast on a motorbike or is it just speed with your mouth on the internet that you specialize in?

Now that you mention I do feel like I am being followed, could you stop it now?

It was an entertaining thread to actually talk on a subject that I have some experience with and have made many mistakes with. Sorry if my passion was interpreted as "attitude" I am genuinely trying to help the OP not make the same mistakes.

Nothing personal mate. It's just been a most entertaining thread so see how together we've taken something so simple and complicated it to bejesusbelt and back. Sanuk maak maak!

some reaction, is there like a TV internet patch gang and you all pm each other if something "goes down" in the bikes in Thailand section.

It was an entertaining thread to actually talk on a subject that I have some experience with and have made many mistakes with. Sorry if my passion was interpreted as "attitude" I am genuinely trying to help the OP not make the same mistakes.

Carbs, jetting and gearbox internals actually go over my head. I know a few very good engineers who I would pay to do that work as they are specialized and very highly skilled at what they do. However gearing is very much down to riders to determine. So if it's a gearing thread I can piss as high as all of you. But if we are going to get really technical, then that would be time for me to bow out.

I could I suppose get the information from google or one of the road race forums, or even phone my old mechanic in the UK between posts to make it appear that I know what I am talking about, but that's a bit weird really dontcha think?

But hey, thanks for pointing out what a cock I have been for speaking from experience. I now know my place.

I will ask you the question again (perhaps english isnt your first language).

What information did I provide that was technically wrong? Where is the incorrect information I provided?

I dont believe you supplied any information, you "borrowed" some to make yourself look "fascinating"

Don't you feel slightly embarrassed that virtually everything I have said is the same as what you said, except I am so wrong and you are so right?

Not even slightly. Without re-reading your posts (sorry I have a life outside of the internet) I seem to remember you getting into some sort of pissing competition with quite a large gentleman who I seem to remember you upset after he outed you for "borrowing" information to make you look "fascinating".

Of course you wont answer my questions, how could you.

Will that do? I am guessing not. I am getting the impression you are some sort of internet jedi who will hound me until you have the last word, well feel free, you can have it. BUT can I correct you on one matter: I did not say you dis-agreed with me, I just said you don't know what your talking about, subtle difference?

Instead of trying to own me with obscene gesturing emoticons you could of course prove me wrong!

Using a age old method, that I have used thousands of times I calculate the following.

So when did you last use this method and on what... do tell Crack on the last word is yours......

If my math is correct your choice of 38 is to get new 5th gear to equal current 6th and therefore new 6th would be like an overdrive.

I don't post in that many threads, I tend not to unless I know what I am talking about. From what I have read of your posts it's an attitude you Neverdie could well adopt. Unless we were all meant to drop our jaws in awe at your ability to google gear ratios I have no idea why you posted, you CLEARLY don't know what your talking about with regard to this subject: But don't let that stop you.

Excuse me for trying to point the OP in the right direction.

Well that would be an interesting thread, perhaps everybody could adopt the same principals as you and not post .

Unlike you though, I don't feel the need to qualify myself constantly and tell everyone how much I know & how much all the others are wrong .

Again, you might like to point me to the incorrect information I posted, as for my part was merely answering the OP's question as to what speed his motorcycle was travelling at a certain RPM based on a set of sprockets. All the other comments I made were strinkingly similar to what you have said (without the attitude). So does that make us both wrong now?

Another example of the old antage, "You don't need a long neck to be a goose".

Yeah as I said. Your time will be much better spent winding someone else up, or on google solving other peoples problems for them unless you really enjoy making yourself look this foolish:

I can let you in on my secret later, after you asked me, "How the F did you do that neverdie"

Great qoute, you mind if I use it in my signature? How do you deal with the cringe factor?

Using a age old method, that I have used thousands of times I calculate the following. I can let you in on my secret later, after you asked me, "How the F did you do that neverdie" question.

God Like?

OR GOOGLE LIKE?

And it's not age old, my dad used to change sprockets on his bikes before the interweb. I think your time would be better spent trying to wind someone else up don't you?

If my math is correct your choice of 38 is to get new 5th gear to equal current 6th and therefore new 6th would be like an overdrive.

I don't post in that many threads, I tend not to unless I know what I am talking about. From what I have read of your posts it's an attitude you Neverdie could well adopt. Unless we were all meant to drop our jaws in awe at your ability to google gear ratios I have no idea why you posted, you CLEARLY don't know what your talking about with regard to this subject: But don't let that stop you.

Excuse me for trying to point the OP in the right direction.

Hi tatt2, thanks for the link, if I change the front to 18 teeth steel, can the old chain accomodate the bigger sprocket?

Yes it should. Just check the chain adjusters on the rear of the swinging arm to check there is plenty of movement, the wheel is going to move forward toward the engine so you will have to wind the adjusters in. From memory it should not be a problem on a nicely run in chain that has already stretched.

I changed from a 42 to a 40 on my bike to take advantage of extra power and primarily to improve mid range 'cruising" during a commute. It works fine for that. But it is a little slower off the line but only for the first 10m.

Hello?

OK: for a steel sprocket on a standard chain your options are going to be 42-45 teeth so you will have to go aluminum to get what your looking for: 38

Try these people: http://www.sprocketspecialists.com

Yap, I want the 6th gear to be a overdrive, but how much power loss you experience on your 1st gear after the change from a standstill, I would like to know before I go ahead.

Dude no one can give you that answer. Anyone who claims they can from a website or through doing some "math" is bs'ing you to look good on a forum.... the only person who can tell you that is someone who has done it. So unless anyone on TV has dropped 6/8 teeth on the rear of an FZR you are asking the wrong question on the wrong forum.

I have some experience with gearing. I have made several genuine post to help you, all with the same message "do it step by step", it is genuine well meant advice but I cant make you listen to it can I as it's not what you want to hear.

If you want overdrive buy a dolomite sprint.

For "relaxed" cruising I would think that 6th gear roll on - roll off performance, if that is the correct expression, would be more important than actual RPM.

If it is an expression then it's one I have never heard. However I tip my hat to you.... for mathematically answering the question in theory. All I can say is wow . I am sold, drop it 6 teeth and let us know how it goes

Hi tatt2, Yamaha realises the gearing problem and have made the 2nd generation a taller 5th and 6th gear, for 1st generation high speed tourer, it is gonna be DIY. Where in Pattaya can I get it done? Where can I find 38 teeth rear or a 18 front sprocket for my bike? The mechanic couldn't find and I may have to order from the internet.

The mechanic told me it is hard to change the front, if you know someone can do it, I may consider changing up to 18 teeth front, is about 5.5 teeth rear.

From what I just read Yamaha went up one tooth on the rear on later models. You have a 2004 Fazer right 141bhp?

If you need to go one tooth up on the front to try it, have a socket for the nut, a paddock stand, either a torque wrench or strong ratchet with a scaffold pole then call by my place in Pattaya and I will help/show you how to do it. It is not hard to do at all, it requires effort, there is a difference. And seriously if changing a front sprocket is beyond your mechanic (Or for that matter is anymore than 30 min labor) stop referring to him as a "mechanic".

Going 6 down on the back your on your own unless you buy new chain and sprockets, you will need open ended spanners for the adjusters as well. I always used Talons in the UK for all my chains and sprockets search Talons sprockets in google.

However: before you do anything check 16/44 is standard gearing, I had a quick look on the web but could not find the standard set up.

"She needs to be locked up so that she will not dare to do it again.

What should i do? Should i call the police ?

I originally wanted to ask the Surat Thani mental van to come and capture her. But the costs plus treatment, From what other said needs 4000baht.

I would like not to waste a single baht as it is none of my business."

Ever crossed your mind that you could be part of the problem and not the solution?

Hi Neverdie, thanks for the articles, interesting read. I am willing to sacrifice pick up and wheelie for lower rpm at top gear, I will be cruising a lot at the speed of 120 to 200, so I guess changing down to 38 teeth may suit my driving style.

Tatt2dude, I am not a track fello, but a highway cruiser, so I guess it is ok for slightly slower acceleration, but I don't have a clue of how much slower, do you think downsize 6 teeth will be at about 10% loss on acceleration at standstill? If it is 10%, then will be ok for me. Maybe Neverdie can do a indepth research on this, and I know there is no free lunch on this planet, so I have reserved a masseur for him, she is definitely a heavy weight class in this industry.

And also, I am using 530 chain with 16/44 teeth, if I change to 16/38, what chain should I use? 520 or 525?

In that case you are going in the right direction.

6 teeth is a huge leap. Many of the posters in this thread are referring to two strokes, you can make radical changes on a two stroke. We used to race 125's (I was racing from 12 years old to 40 years old so been around!) and we once got a maximum (4 wins) from a sixth place qualification simply by throwing the biggest rear sprocket we had in the box on the bike.

4 stroke Thousands are a different beast altogether. A slight change will make a noticeable difference. The manufacturer has already geared your bike for your riding style (in their opinion), they believe most of their customers want to cruise, so really you just need to fine tune.

I don't know how else to say what I am trying to say! So lets try this:

YOUR CHEAPEST ROUTE TO SUCCESS!!!!!

Get a standard front sprocket one tooth more than you have already. Dont worry about chain rear etc, just fit it and then ride the bike for 50 klicks. You will know instantly if it is right, wrong or in the right direction but you need more!

From there you can spend your money in the right direction. Big bikes are all about feel and your riding style. Giving you an exact answer as to a 10% loss of power is not possible, nor is it possible to research it on a website, everything will go on manufacturers stated power output. If anyone has ever raced or modified a big four they will tell you those figures are a complete nonsense. So again it depends on your bike, it could be a Friday night pig that is already down on power or it could be a golden nugget engine producing R1 power, in which case gearing it down will work better for you. You wont find that answer on a forum but you will on a dyno.

Given your riding style suggests mileage I would actually use standard chains and sprockets, they are heavier but they are harder wearing, as soon as you go the performance/race route then you are saving weight and looking cool but be prepared to replace chains and sprockets regularity in comparison with standard.

Where are you based? If it's in Pattaya and you need a hand give me a holla. Once you have done a front sprocket it is easy, first time from factory can be a bitch as they torque the nut to extremes.

There's is no need to change chain and sprockets unless the sprocket is worn. The shape between the teeth should be a perfect U, as the sprocket wears one side of the U will wear away, on a worn sprocket the space between the teeth takes on the shape of a worn tick.

What mileage is on the original chain and sprockets?

If you go 8 teeth on the FZR this is what will happen: You will have to break harder as your engine will not slow you as much going into corners. Off the line the bike will be much slower if not a slug, first gear and all your other gears will be much longer so it will take you longer to reach top speed. Power delivery will change, and the hit that you start to get at 3500 will not come until 5000. Forget Wheelies, unless you clutch it and please don't do first gear wheelies with a first gear that long, not going to end well!

If you don't get your chain and sprocket combination right: You will lengthen or shorten the wheelbase, this will change the way the bike steers. Given in a previous thread you are possibly thinking about speeding up the steering I would take baby steps with regard to radical gearing change.

You go one tooth up at the front: I doubt very much you will need new chain and you will not be making dramatic changes to wheelbase, the wheelbase will be a smidge shorter. You will experience all of the above effects/changes but to a much lessor degree. It will be noticeable!!

OK HERE IS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION!

How do you like to ride?

If sitting on Motorways watching the world go by at a steady 80mph never having to change gear again is your thing, then go the direction your going and stick it in third. If you like wheelies, track days, track style ridding then go no where on the front and two on the back that will give you the thrills and you can pick it up on the back wheel in second off the throttle. It will be very usable on a track day. And if you like that direction then drop one off the front for a stunt bike.

It's the national park north East of Bangkok. It's a favourite short ride for many riders in BKK. The southern part of the park has a few twsties.

Bira in Pattaya and Keang Kachang (spelling again. Not my day today) are the tracks . Also a shorter, twisty one near Nakom Pathom.

Ok.

I know Bira been round it a few times.

Well for anything like a track you are going to be at a disadvantage because you have raised the gearing. By dropping two teeth you have raised the top speed at the cost of acceleration. So basically you will be losing drive and getting passed half way down the straights more than likely by someone who is on a bike with a top speed lesser than yours.

For cruising or on the road you have more than likely gone the right way. By raising your gearing: third gear for example will be a much longer gear so you can more than likely stick the bike in a very usable gear for long periods of time.

Gearing is a real dark art, I know a bit through experience but would not throw my hat in the ring as an expert simply because my results never justified it. People like Rossi, Haga etc... gearing experts!!!

I would agree with what tatt2 is saying about dropping too many teeth, it has alot more to do than what the gearing commander is showing you.

Gearing Commander?

&lt;deleted&gt;, once again I had to spent quite some time resetting the channel order to suit my preferences.

Hear f*ckn hear!

This BS seems to be happening every few months! This time it's even worse than normal with the inane sequencing seemingly designed by some lobotomised donkey!

I agree.

So what alternative to true is there? Can someone post up some options with rough costs for satellite systems? And is there any chance of getting UK TV and all the motor-sport worldwide on one of these systems?

Well it will look better that's for sure!

04 R1 front forks were good... very good even as standard. Re valved and tuned by someone like Kaiss in the UK they were AWESOME!

Your getting the yolks as well right? And you have checked that the yolks will bolt straight through the frame head with no modifications right?

Make sure you put new bearings in the frame before you put it all back together even if the original bearings look fine. If your going to that extent then don't penny pinch.

I dont know the FZR (never ridden one) other than knowing of it. From memory it is an R1 but de-tuned and without so may trick bits. I would have thought everything should be interchangeable. It would also make sense that the R1 would have a more aggressive rake and trail so it should be a bit more aggressive through the corners with R1 yolks. Yes it would turn quicker, but that will come at a cost.... stability.

But then as I stated at the start of the post.... it will look really trick. Go for it!

I changed from a 42 to a 40 on my bike to take advantage of extra power and primarily to improve mid range 'cruising" during a commute. It works fine for that. But it is a little slower off the line but only for the first 10m.

I do notice however that at my level of riding when I am in Khao Yai that in some slow corners I am in between gears. Too slow for 2nd too fast for 1st. But then I still get passed on the straights.

Is Khao Yai a track? Excuse my ignorance.