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Don't you just love this new "my website designer knows better than you" stuff? I actually put the letters a, b and c in brackets to explain the maths. Someone converted them into emojis. Hence the edit.

Couldn't find any decent sites that gave me a historic answer, so I worked it out using several sites

Gold in December '86 was about (give or take) $390 per Troy ounce (a)

1 Troy ounce is 31.1035 gm ( b )

1 Baht weight is 15.244 gm ( c )

Therefore 1 baht was worth $ c/b x a

15.244/31.1035*390 = 191.15

Dollar to Baht then was (give or take) 26

26 * 191 is 4966

So - I was wrong. My memory aint what it used to be. Gold was about 5000 a Bht in the mid 80's. Still a stuff's sight cheaper than now though!

Thanks for the research. I actually first bought gold in Thailand about 1986, and it was around the 3000 a baht area as I remember. I may be wrong as my memory aint what -- what was that saying?

3000 baht in that time was quite a lot in forex, MrCruncher, or are you digging about another post?

I'm conflicted. Sid knows the chemical symbol for gold, uses apostrophes and commas correctly and has a decent grasp of English grammar, but can't spell the word 'birthday'. Is this a troll or not? I'll go with "not" for the moment.

Sid, I'll assume that missus is Thai; here's my take on Thais and gold. They don't want minibars, they don't want nuggets, they want gold to wear for show. Sure, gold is a (sort of) investment - it's gone way up since I first came to Thailand all those years ago (3000 a baht), but it also goes down. Not long ago it peaked around 25000 a baht; bit less than that now isn't it? But - it's a status symbol if you're wearing it.

So - if you want to buy Missus some Au for her bday, get her something wearable that can be used on the right occasions and kept in the safe at home at other times as an investment for possible future problems. Thai gold is (ahemm) 24 carat, so is quite pure and, quite literally, worth its weight in gold. Buying a necklace or bracelet (or waistlet or anklet, depending on your kink) is as good as buying an ingot, and much more practical from a Thai perspective.

Hope this helps.

I'll assume that this is a garden we're talking about and not a commercial idea, otherwise it shouldn't be in the Pattaya forum

You're looking at quite a few years for anything you plant from scratch. If you're in (wherever) for the long haul then start planting anything and everything and see how they go. Nothing grows fast, (bamboo and papaya trees seem to be the exception). No trees require too much care - they've managed to survive without human intervention for a few zillion years.

If you're going to be (wherever) long enough, I'd advise planting star fruit and jackfruit - but you're not going to get any decent fruit for at least 5 years. Longans and rambutans are also worth looking at but I don't know how young they start making babies.

Good luck.

Excellent. What a talent. Thanks for the link Crossy.

I learned a new word today. Thank you Soi sixteen.

There's a large second hand 'sort of everything' place I've mentioned before in another thread on here. Can't remember which one though. Seems to have loads of furniture and job lots of places that have closed.

Soi Chaiyapreuk 2, heading East about 50 yards past Tesco Market, same side.

Don't know where Soi Chaiyapreuk is? Head South down Sukhumwit, past the lights at South Pattaya T junction, straight through two lights at Khao Talo and Thepprasit, through the next lights at school number 7 and left at the next lights. It's the road with the sports stadium in. Tesco is a couple of hundred yards after the railway crossing.

Everyone should carry there passports on them at all times.

Well I'm bolloxed then - I've only got one passport. Guess it's off to the cells for me.

If you're booked into the Royal Cliff - a 5 star hotel - they should collect you. However, if things don't work out a taxi from the airport to there will cost you 1500Baht.

Dennis, Were these people bothering you by drinking beer at 10am? Were they being noisy, offensive or pose any kind of threat to you?

Did the people who saw you drinking a beer in, say, Cambodia, at say, 2-3pm complain on an internet forum because they don't drink before, say, 5pm?

Stop being a judgemental ass and learn to live and let live, and you'll find Thailand is a nice place to be.

My result:-

Our perception test shows that your eyes "see" more than those of the average person.

Your sight is the same as everyone else, but your brain can analyze more data in a much faster way.

This ability is helping you in all the visual aspects of life, and we wouldn't be surprised if you work in a creative field.

I'm an engineer, does that count as 'creative'?

By a quirk of coincidence this is exactly the same result I got - and I'm an engineer as well.

I wonder what UK guys thinks about the flag in the back...

Well spotted - I had to go back to the top to see what you meant.

Kaoboi Bebobp I think thats the one Iam looking for, Thanks will see if I can find it.

I know the one he's talking about - I have to take my car there every year for testing before registration. I have no idea at all whether it's what you want, but the garage is located on Northbound Sukhumvit a few yards after the off-ramp heads off to the right onto highway 7. Roughly halfway between the start of the off-ramp and its full height. Only garage in that area. Hope that helps.

Tell me more about the crumpets, never found any decent ones in Pattaya. I'm interested in your business and I'm not being facetious.

Edit. Just been to the website. "Temporarily unavailable" is a real downer.

Hi.

Don't worry, they will be back in stock soon. The person that makes them is away temporarily. They are made by The Crumpet Tea Room (the owner is originally from London) and are certainly the best crumpets you can buy in Thailand.

We are the only company that delivers such good crumpets nationwide (or Bangkok for that matter). Definitely worth the wait.

I'll let you know when they are back in stock.

In the meantime we have over 550 other products for you to browse and order at www.passiondelivery.com so feel free to take a look. Our range of meat and seafood is impressive!

Thanks. I'm waiting with my toaster and butter knife.

Tell me more about the crumpets, never found any decent ones in Pattaya. I'm interested in your business and I'm not being facetious.

Edit. Just been to the website. "Temporarily unavailable" is a real downer.

The Pope went to Northern Ireland during a trip he asked Paddy what he thought of County Down .

Paddy says " It's <deleted> since Carol Vorderman left " !!

Sorry mate, but you're going to have to explain that one.

A related anecdote:

I was on a skiing holiday many years ago in the Oz village of Thredbo in the Snowy Mountains of NSW. Included in my room deal was a buffet dinner in the evening. Passing down the line one night I had assorted roasts and veg on my plate and came to a very suspicious looking tray of off-white stodgy looking stuff cut into squares. "What's that?" I enquired of the serving girl, who looked to be all of 16. "Yorkshire pudding" came back the confident reply. "Hmmm", I retorted, "I'm from Yorkshire and that is definitely not Yorkshire pudding". With a smile on her face and barely a second's thought she offered me a slice and said "Would you like some Thredbo pudding?"

If you've got this far - the secret to a good Yorkshire pudding, as taught to me by my mum years ago, is not neccessarily the ingredients; it's the beating you have to give it to infuse air into the batter mix so it will rise properly. No beating = no air = flat batter pudding no matter what fat or oven temperature you use.

And here's a few more, courtesy of Khun Googun:

10 Facts About Yorkshire Pudding

• The first Yorkshire Pudding recipe dates back to 1866 and was created by a woman called Mrs Beeton. Later recipes were published in 1737 by ‘The Whole Duty of a Woman’, and then in 1747 in ‘The Art of Cookery made plain and easy’, by Hannah Glasse.

My theory is that Khun Googun doesn't know what the eff he's talking about if he thinks that 1737 is later than 1866.

Chaiyapreuk 2 Road. Turn left off south-bound Sukhumwit and head towards the Sports stadium. About half way between Suk and the railway crossing, there's a small road that goes off to the right (just after the PEA office on the left). The restaurant on the east corner of that junction is a Southern specialist. Went there with the Mrs once and had my head blown off. She loved it even though she's Isaan, I'm not going back!!

Would that be the collingbourne auction house that you're thinking of?

If so can you just rock up & buy stuff or does it have to be during the actual auctions?

Large one on Soi Chaiyapreuk 2. Head inland from Sukhumwit towards the sports stadium, past the railway lines it's just after Tesco market on the same side.

No - it's an actual 2nd hand shop before the Collingbourne Auction House. It's quite big and has a whole range of things. As for Collingbourne's, you can tip up anytime and look at stuff, (or take stuff for sale), but can only buy during the auctions on Saturday mornings.

Large one on Soi Chaiyapreuk 2. Head inland from Sukhumwit towards the sports stadium, past the railway lines it's just after Tesco market on the same side.

Google "Silverfish Computer Services". It was the first hit when I just tried it, but if not the one you want is in a small soi directly opposite the Suk end of Thepprasit Road. Speak to Alex and he'll tell you whether he can help or not. Tell him Pete recommended him.

So true... three months holiday on the beach - does funny things with a man...

But actually this was the wind who had folded the bag in that way. Which is a little creepy.

The Wind ???? Classic