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I had a son when I was 64 I am with him all the time he is not at school I he is 6 now and I am looking after him now alone I think in the 6 years since he was born he as seen more of me than I see my father till I was 50 years of age because my father was always at work to support my mother and I

How many men have children when they are young and leave them in the first few years of there lives because they where not mature enough to have children

In response to your post, how many old men have children and then leave them in a few years as they croak it because they were not mature enough to realise they shouldn't have had children.

You're another one that'll leave a kid when he needs you most.

If life was that simple nobody would have any children because nobody knows what tomorrow may bring

How many young men leave there children before they are 6 years old

I had a son when I was 64 I am with him all the time he is not at school I he is 6 now and I am looking after him now alone I think in the 6 years since he was born he as seen more of me than I see my father till I was 50 years of age because my father was always at work to support my mother and I

How many men have children when they are young and leave them in the first few years of there lives because they where not mature enough to have children

Posted 2015-04-05 05:49:50

Here the question that i placed 2 weeks ago in the lawyer forum (khun Somsak)..Hope can receive a reply on this matter....

A farang friend of mine has put a piece of land in the name of his Thai child (with dual nationality),and the house on that land is into the farang his own name.

The farang says its possible to sell the land and house if its approved by court as the Thai child (luk krung) is only 14 years.(takes 3 months get the court order)

1 So under what conditions will the court approve such a sale ?

2 Is it allowed by the Thai court to buy with the proceedings of that sale,other better properties condos in Thailand again in the name of the same child..(then using its foreign passport)

Both the parents and the child would be for a sale there for using the proceedings to buy back better and other real estate in Thailand in the childs name.

If in case its totally impossible then why there is the option to go to court.?Under what circumstances are children then allowed by Thai court to sell thai real estate before they reach 20 years of age ?

The thing that I was told that happens if the land is sold the money received goes into the government bank and if the child needs any of the money they have to show receipts of how the money was spent and it was for there benefit

I suggest if you want to find out if you can do what you like to do is go the Children's Court yourself and ask them but take somebody that can translate for you they were very helpful to me

Meanwhile i have placed my question also in the lawyer forum regarding this topic.Its possible that my message needs get moderated first before it shows in the lawyer forum?

Main point is : what would be for the thai court then a good enough reason to sell real estate of a thai minor child before age 20 ?

Is buying back other better real estate in the Thai childs name a good enough reason? with aproval of both parents of that child?

If there are no reasons ever good enough for a sale before 20 years of age then why is there the go to court option?

Cases where I can see a court approve the sale of real estate in a child's name would be when the land is needed for something like building a highway or an airport. I doubt the court would allow anything that wasn't obviously in the interest of the child or the interest of society as a whole.

Of course I'm just guessing, but I wonder if there have ever been any cases where a court has allowed such a sale. I doubt the transfer that TV user offset is discussing went before a court. I could be completely wrong about that so if offset knows if it was reviewed by a court that would be valuable information.

I am not sure but I think that it did not go to court.

But I have other things to sort out before I cause any problems for the lady and I expected to lose the land when her daughter was 20 years old anyway I am not really worried about this land

I purchased some land in a ladies daughter's name thinking it secure but her mother has found a way of getting it transferred back into her name and has since taken out a mortgage on the land she will not tell me how she did it

Buying land in some ladies daughter her name?? That can be never a secure purchase for you as you surely will understand.

Just wonder why would u even do such a thing.

It was not meant to be a secure purchase for me it was meant to be a way of stopping lady taking out a mortgage on the land that she could not pay back

Seems Khun Somsak is taking his time to come up with an answer...

I sent a private message to his company about a similar problem and I did not get a reply either

I purchased some land in a ladies daughter's name thinking it secure but her mother has found a way of getting it transferred back into her name and has since taken out a mortgage on the land she will not tell me how she did it

How old is the daughter

nearly 19

Meanwhile i have placed my question also in the lawyer forum regarding this topic.Its possible that my message needs get moderated first before it shows in the lawyer forum?

Main point is : what would be for the thai court then a good enough reason to sell real estate of a thai minor child before age 20 ?

Is buying back other better real estate in the Thai childs name a good enough reason? with aproval of both parents of that child?

If there are no reasons ever good enough for a sale before 20 years of age then why is there the go to court option?

Maybe if the child needed money for special health care or when they are older for university fees but I do not know how a court would know if the money is used for the correct thing

I purchased some land in a ladies daughter's name thinking it secure but her mother has found a way of getting it transferred back into her name and has since taken out a mortgage on the land she will not tell me how she did it

Shouldn't you like.... visit the famous RTP or atleast a lawyer?

I have other problem to sort out first but going to a lawyer will be my last resort

The lady's daughter is giving her a lot of trouble about it so I will bide my time

I purchased some land in a ladies daughter's name thinking it secure but her mother has found a way of getting it transferred back into her name and has since taken out a mortgage on the land she will not tell me how she did it

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As this thread has been running for some time, has anyone here got a recommendation for a lawyer in Pattaya/Chonburi who can handle child legitimation at a reasonable price?

I'm beginning to think the 10,000 baht prices being spoken about in this thread are a fairy tale because every lawyer I speak to (and the Thai mother speaks to as well) seems to think 50,000 is the minimum.

I have agreed on 50.000 after being quoted prices up to 200.000 from other law firms.

I guess that K50 is about the minimum, especially here in BKK.....

10000 baht is not a fairy tale I had it carried out in Prachinburi for that amount using a Thai lawyer that could not speak English so I had to get an interpreter when we went to court

I find Jomtien to be quite efficient and accommodating too.

To use the word "efficient" I would expect Jomtien Immigration

to not ask us to come back later to get our passport... (in the afternoon or the following day)

Seriously, they have all our "immigration life" on their compute

and for most of us its every year the same extension, with the same proof of funds and the same address.

In most case it's a 2 minutes job for them.

Why don't they take this small time to give us this stamp just when we ask for it ?

I think you are being rather harsh on them.

Likely it would take more than 2 minutes to look up your record, review your latest paperwork and then apply all the stamps and update the records. It they did that all as you sat before them they would certainly handle fewer people each day and many would be sent home not catered to.

I don't like going back later myself as my home is out on the north side of Pattaya, but as a once in a year thing and I can live with killing a few hours in town or diving out there the next day. Yes, a retired person, doing his 5th or 6th extension can likely be less scrutinized, but I prefer they check each applicant thoroughly, some could be undesirables.

It is only a 5 minute job when I have my extension done the whole process only takes about 20 minutes and I walk away with my passport, most of the paperwork is done before it goes to the back office for the final approval

Thank you all for your help completed my extension this morning took only 25 minutes to do from walking into the immigration never had it completed that quick they also reset my 90 day report

Tried to search for this but only seem to get older lists

Have yet to find a competent lawyer in Pattaya, better try Bangkok.

I had mine done in Prachinburi for 10000 baht but using a Thai speaking lawyer so at the hearing I had to use an Thai English interpreter which cost another 2000 baht

If you are still with your babies mother it might be better to let her find a lawyer for you

You will need and English Thai speaker at your first interview but you cannot use the babies mother because she will be interviewed separately from you

Hi Offset

Thank for the input, can I ask why in Prachinburi? You got me thinking I might be looking in the wrong area for a lawyer as my partner and daughter are registered at my partners parents house in Buriram.....

Cheers

I think you will find you have to go to the Children's Court in the area that the child is registered in the Blue Book that is why it why I had to go to the Court in Prachinburi

Have yet to find a competent lawyer in Pattaya, better try Bangkok.

I had mine done in Prachinburi for 10000 baht but using a Thai speaking lawyer so at the hearing I had to use an Thai English interpreter which cost another 2000 baht

If you are still with your babies mother it might be better to let her find a lawyer for you

You will need and English Thai speaker at your first interview but you cannot use the babies mother because she will be interviewed separately from you

I think you need to go to the immigration

It tells you what you need here http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/625737-renewal-of-5-year-drivers-license/

Thank you all for your help but I am know total confused what to buy now

It seems like all the manufactures state that the Inverter should cool the room quicker but in my experience and the experience of another on here finds it not to be the case and I cannot remember anybody with an inverter stating that they are working good at cooling the room quickly

I guess post #5 and #6 don't count then.

looks like you only want to hear certain answers.

Yes sorry I forgot about those 2 postings but that only make me more confused what I should buy

I like the inverter because it keeps the temperature more stable but in my rooms they just do not cool the room enough so I still am not sure what to buy

Thank you all for your help but I am know total confused what to buy now

It seems like all the manufactures state that the Inverter should cool the room quicker but in my experience and the experience of another on here finds it not to be the case and I cannot remember anybody with an inverter stating that they are working good at cooling the room quickly

[Oh by the way, Daikin management in Thailand admits that Mitsubishi is superior to their own brand.

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WOW if Daikin are saying that then Daikin must be bad going by the 2 Mitsubishi units I have here that can only reduce the temperature by 3C

Does not compute - I have two bedrooms of 24 plus square meters and 9k cools them fine 24 hours a day. But I normally like 27 and children 25 (inverter model in children room). The inverter is very fast to cool and they have higher capacity than stated for short periods so do not believe a larger unit is required. But as said that doorway could be key - get foil backed curtains for it - and have the air conditioner serviced if not done within last year. Make very sure you keep the dust filters in the inside unit clean.

I have a Mishubishi inverter too 15.000+ btu and it cools slow too. The original installer says its normal that it cools slow. So after getting bored with them I called Mishubishi and they came.. cleaned it changed some things its cooler but even they say that inverter aircons cool slower (this was today)

I guess that you are having the same types of problem that I am having

Sounds like it beat not to but another Mitsubishi

Can I ask what size your room is and what type of temperatures you go down to

It is not a problem to get the room cool, it just takes a longer time as with my other lesser btu cheaper older samsung aircon. It was a big disappointment to be honest. It has 3000 BTU more but cools slower.

The room is max 16 m2

So you room is smaller than my room and you have a bigger BTU and you say you not happy with it think I will not buy another Inverter

ECOAIR state that an inverter should cool a room quicker than a normal unit

Does not compute - I have two bedrooms of 24 plus square meters and 9k cools them fine 24 hours a day. But I normally like 27 and children 25 (inverter model in children room). The inverter is very fast to cool and they have higher capacity than stated for short periods so do not believe a larger unit is required. But as said that doorway could be key - get foil backed curtains for it - and have the air conditioner serviced if not done within last year. Make very sure you keep the dust filters in the inside unit clean.

I have a Mishubishi inverter too 15.000+ btu and it cools slow too. The original installer says its normal that it cools slow. So after getting bored with them I called Mishubishi and they came.. cleaned it changed some things its cooler but even they say that inverter aircons cool slower (this was today)

I guess that you are having the same types of problem that I am having

Sounds like it beat not to but another Mitsubishi

Can I ask what size your room is and what type of temperatures you go down to

Is your outside unit in direct sun? Is there good airflow through that unit (not too close to wall or ceiling)?

Yes it is in direct sunlight and I thought that might be the problem but the air con unit still does not reduce the temperature even at night

Yes there is good air flow round the unit

No, inverter AC's do not need to be higher BTU's. Whoever told you that doesn't understand what a BTU is, LOL.

That said, do check the actual specs - some "12,000 BTU" A/C's might only be <=11.5K BTU, others might be >=12.5K BTU - i.e. They are loosely rounded to the nearest normal size (9, 12, 18, 25) when being discussed.

As for you own issues, that's a challenging one. 12K BTU should be enough for your space. What brand/model are the units you have? How hot does the room get without AC on?

Room get up to 36C in the afternoon but at night time about 30C but even at night time the room never gets below 27C

You are getting cold air when you start? Make sure the temperature sensor probe is not making contact with fan coil (they might miss that on service). Are you sure about the room being 4x4.5 meters? That is a very small room.- smaller than most hotel rooms. You have confirmed units are actually rated 12k BTU (make/model might help troubleshoot).

Yes it is a smaller room than most hotel rooms

It is a Mitsubishi MSZ-SGE13VA