Brigante7

Can we keep this relevant to the op please.

OP, what is her actual visa status, is she on ILR, FLR or a 2 year residency visa?

You say she has been in Uk for 4 years, so hopefully she is on ILR, which means she can remain in the UK Indefinately & she will be able to claim benefits. I suggest she speaks to the local citizens advice office & see what they think her options are in terms of help financially & what she can expect to receive from her husband.

It seems she's had a 2 year spouse visa then extended it for 2 years on a limited leave to remain visa (No recourse to public funds), that's how I read it anyway.

Brigante7.

I love City Lodge Soi 9, I never watch the TV and don't know if it has internet, it's clean, has great A/C and is in a great location.

You seemed to have missed my point; which is as follows.

We know absolutley nothing about this woman, her reasons for travelling to the uk, or even how long for, nor the circumstances in which she has left her child. Except for the extremely limited information given by the OP, which is naturally biased by his feelings toward her.

Yet you have lept to the conclusion that she has abandoned her child!

What I am trying to get you to do is put your prejudice away and keep an open mind.

As she is still married to the OP it is extremely unlikely that she has recieved a settlement visa. She can't get a spouse visa as she cannot marry her boyfriend as she is still married to the OP. She cannot get a fiance visa as she will not be free to marry within the 6 months of such a visa.

So what type of visa does she have? I suspect a visit.

Like you 7by7 I came to the same conclusion that the OP's wife must surely be on a tourist visa and thus is away on holiday and thus has left her 3 year old with her husband's friend (OP's words) while she is away with her B/F which is a big difference to moving to another country and your kids joining you in the near future.

While we might not have all the facts what we do have is what the OP has told us and it is that info that I was replying to and that is the info that I based my reply on.

My wife has several friends who have left their kids in Thailand when they moved to the UK, usualy with the grandmother or father, and I find it hard to understand why they don't want to bring their kids over to the UK but again that is just me.

Brigante7.

You then said "She left a 3 year old with friends and fu_cked of to another country with her new boyfriend, caring mum."

I posted a respnse to that, including "many mothers who have come to the UK with their partner to get work, accomodation etc. sorted before sending for their child(ren). We have seen several recent posts from people who have followed this route and are now ready to bring the child(ren) over. You have not criticised them in the way you have this woman. Are you now doing so?"

Care to answer that question?

Happy too, there is a big difference between leaving a small child with a close relative and a friend acrosss the road, never mind a friend of the husband you have left. I can state 100% that if my wife had a child when we met and was prepared to leave the child in Thailand when she came to live in the UK then there is no way I would have been happy about her leaving the child in Thailand and would not be able to understand how she could do it but then that is me.

Like you say 7by7 she is most likely on a tourist visa, again a big difference between leaving your kid for 6 months to go on holiday and moving to a new country to get settled before having your kid join you.

Answered enough for you or should I continue?

Brigante7.

Brigante7 & CharlieB

The OP was complaining mainly about the embassy issuing a visa; hence my post.

As she is still married to the OP it is extremely unlikely that she has recieved a settlement visa. She can't get a spouse visa as she cannot marry her boyfriend as she is still married to the OP. She cannot get a fiance visa as she will not be free to marry within the 6 months of such a visa.

So what type of visa does she have? I suspect a visit.

We know nothing about this woman nor the friends she has entrusted with the care of her child. For all we know ahe may be a loving mother who has left her child with responsible friends while she takes a holiday in the UK.

Even if she has somehow obtained a settlement visa she may well be in the same position as many mothers who have come to the UK with their partner to get work, accomodation etc. sorted before sending for their child(ren). We have seen several recent posts from people who have followed this route and are now ready to bring the child(ren) over. You have not criticised them in the way you have this woman. Are you now doing so?

And I was saying that the OP should be more worried about his child than his wife which is why I asked if people (Including the OP) were focusing on the wrong thing.

Brigante7.

Hi, my wife recently passed her ESOL with citizenship course and recieved her ILR and was told by immigration in Glasgow that she can apply for her UK passpoert 1 year after recieving her ILR visa, my question is this,

Does anybody know how much the passport is, I can't find the answer on the UK immigration website and also does she have to go through this immigration test that I keep reading about? Many thanks

Brigante7.

Three general points:

1) There is (or was) provision under Scots Law for a couple to marry if it is uncertain as to whether they are already married to one another.

2) In England, there are no visa requirements for a legal, church wedding in the established church. Unfortunately, I don't know what the position is under Scots Law.

3) Knowing lack of a required marriage visa does not invalidate a civil wedding in England - though one of the parties will have committed an offence.

Not sure about 1 & 3 but to get married in Scotland my wife had to show her fiance visa.

Brigante7.

I've found that many foreigners, after living here awhile, adopt the saving face thing really quickly. No one likes to be embarrassed.

I always say nothing unless I'm 100% sure that I'm right then I'll let rip with both barrels if needed.

It's the people who think they are 100% right when they aren't even close to 50% that pi_ss me off.

Brigante7.

I'm saying nothing except I'm suprised this topic hasn't been closed yet

Brigante7.

Is it just me or is everybody else focusing on the wrong thing here? She left a 3 year old with friends and fu_cked of to another country with her new boyfriend, caring mum.

Why didn't she take her son with her?

Brigante7.

Here's a thought, how would the check in staff know who booked and paid for the flight?

Brigante7.

Mazda invented the Miata for guys who like ABBA.

I think you'll find that Mazda based the MX-5 on the original Lotus Elan.

The MX-5 is always voted amongst the top drivers cars and will leave most cars for dead on a twisty country road and is most definitly not a womans car, most woman wouldn't apreciate what it can do (Or men for that matter).

Brigante7.

With my girlfriend now in sunny scotland and just wanted to say thanks for all the help received. This was our 2nd application (the 1st failed) and we made a few changes from the first.

Talked to thaivisaexpress (member on this forum) on the phone and he basically gave back some confidence that we lost by getting refused for the 1st visa, plus giving a few useful tips on what to do for next application.

Like I said i'm with my girlfriend now and all is good.

So, just wanted to say thank you for the help on the phone (thaivisaexpress). And thanks to everyone else on this forum who helped too!

If anyone had any problems or wanted help in getting a visa, I would definately recommend

Congatualations on the TV, where abouts in Scotland are you?

Brigante7.

That's my mind at rest now, just phoned Expedia to double check the policy on the card holder not traveling and was told that there won't be a problem.

Brigante7.

This policy has nothing to do with payment for the flight, like I said in an earlier post I've booked and payed for my wife and son's flights so what would be the excuse for not honoring the flights when I as the credit card holder am not travelling?

Brigante7.

i rememberwhen this land was for sale, only now 25 years left on the lease

I'm confused, If I buy a piece of land then I've bought it not bought a lease.

Brigante7.

Boater meant he remembers when the lease for this land was for sale.

OK.

The diesel engine has more torque, lasts longer and will give a minimum of 30 percent better efficiency. No contest.

I agree 100%, I have a diesel Mondeo in the UK, best car I've ever had, fast, smooth, reliable and very economical.

Brigante7.

i rememberwhen this land was for sale, only now 25 years left on the lease

I'm confused, If I buy a piece of land then I've bought it not bought a lease.

Brigante7.

Hello again all,

Thank you so much for all advises.

I am sorry that i did not give a clear information. I and my wife are living in Germany. We visit thailand once a year and stay never longer than 30days. I dont need a visa to enter Thailand in this case.

Anyhow, I want to open a bank account on our next trip to Thailand. Some more advises would be very appreciated.

I opened a bank account at the Siam branch in Nakhon Phanom with no visa or WP but my wife had to produce her I.D card and her family's house book (Not sure why the house book?)

Brigante7.

Funnily enough I've booked a flight on Thai airways for my wife and son using my credit card and there is no mention of me not travelling, but I'll phone them first thing Monday morning.

Brigante7.

Was in Hua-Hin last year with the family, hated it, far to many tourists, much prefered Cha-Am plus Cha-Am has the better beach by far, just my opinion. The only thing I liked about Hua-Hin was the night market although Cha-Am has an excellent night market every Wednesday.

Brigante7.

We moved into an apartment in August 2007 and signed what we thought was a one year lease (we specifically asked for a one year lease) we thought it had expired in Aug 2008 but we just carried on paying rent and figured we can move out when we want, the landlord was still getting his money so everyone was happy we found out recently that we had actually signed for 2 years (the contract was in Thai)

Last week we found a place that we would like to move to but our contract states that if we move out before the the lease is over we will lose our deposit (2 months rent) We hardly ever see our landlord but he seems like a nice enough guy so I honestly think that he made a mistake and gave us a 2 year contract instead of a one year, is it worth trying to negotiate with him? or will we just lose our deposit when we move?

Please drop the word lease - it is utterly inapplicable - You rent - your rental terms are in play. Lease and leasehold are effectively rent up front; you cannot pay rent on what you have already rented.

I was under the impression that if you wanted to rent a property or business, you signed a lease which states the terms of the rental agreament. I have 2 properties that I rent out in the UK and when I get a new tenant they sign a lease which is a legaly binding contract which states the terms of the rental I.E. rent level, whether they can do any alterations and the like. A lease is free but you pay rent, at least that's the way I work.

The wife does it for me every time.

Brigante7.

Here is our case in brief

My wife and I now are finding our selves in an increasing impossible situation. we applied for a 2 year visa extension for my wife who is Thai, as advised by the Immigration Advisory Service, we have been refused because my wife does not have the correct visa to apply for this, and immigration want her to return to Thailand to apply from there, we have been married for 2 years together for 4 years. I am a British national.

We are also being informed that we have no recourse to appeal the UK border decision, Based on the fact that my wife does not have the correct visa to apply. Therefore the immigration service have with drawn our appeal as it will fail.

This means that my wife will have to return to Thailand now, which for us is not possible, we do not have any money to take this course of action, just to send my wife back is more than we can afford, to then place an application from Thailand would cost over 3k with fees and expenses flight, some where to live.

I have explained that I as a foreigner can not return to Thailand as I have no means of work there. I have in the past worked for 4 years as a teacher, due to recent changes in the laws, I am unable to work as a teacher, the only work I am allowed to do there. my wife is totally dependent on me

So now we have been dropped by the immigration advisory service, we can not find a lawyer who will help us appeal, it seems because my wife has a tourist visa we have no right to appeal, but as much as everyone keeps saying send your wife back to her home country to apply, we simply do not have the money, we are totally committed here. I have been told to wait it out and have the immigration come to take action to remove my wife, then appeal under the right to family life.

I have been advised to send my wife back to Thailand by everyone, of cause this would be the right thing to do, but we simply do not have the money to do this, it will take months to get the money together, by then she is on overstay, and I believe that this will count against us, and she will be refused, and we will be kept apart.

Unfortunately I am not in a financially stable situation, I pay the bills and get by well enough, just don't have any to spare.

Any help or advise would be a great help

Thanks

Sorry but you really are some kind of doughnut ,,, I have been lambasted by other doughnuts on here because I have spent a bit of the folding stuff doing things the correct way ,, now my wife has her UK test passed,, we 100% own our UK home,, she is gainfully employed ,, well loved by the neighbours , and 90% of people that meet her ,, and we have a good 5 figure sum tucked away to show for her ILTR and UK passport at a later date . we have just been on a lovely holiday to the Dominican republic and the UKBA could not have been more helpfull when we landed back in the UK ,, even though my wife has an out of date visa in her Thai passport , she has a UK spouse ID card ,, its worth its weight in gold,,,,,and IF you had done it the correct way your wife would have one now. It puzzles me why you would ever want to bring your wife here on a visitor visa in the first place ,, ( mabe you could not make the financial ,, work criteria then ) and by the sound of your post you cannot make the requirements now.. Just let the UKBA deport her then it wont cost you ,,,,then when you have your finances in better order you can help her get a UK settlement visa in BKK .. good luck with that !!!!!!!!!

One thing I can tell you if your that hard up you cant send her home ( which I have to say I dont believe ) you havent got a flyin fkkkks chance of getting her a settlement visa here.

Why people like you seem to think you can shortcut the system never fails to amaze me ,,,,,, I bet you also got a mortgage repaying 12% interest ,, because you never read the small print !

I don't think you do yourself any favours waving your good fortune in the face of someone less fortunate. Yes, he made a mistake, but he is paying for it now with his current difficulties. He doesn't need you showing off and bragging at him to make him feel worse.

Not bragging about anything ,,,,,,,,,not had good fortune either ,,,,,,,,,,just played the game by the rules and got the result,,,,,,,,,,to be honest the original post is so naieve I doubt vey much it is even the case ,,,,,, why would anyone go through all the expense of getting a visitor visa for his wife , plane ticket etc ,, knowing full well in 6 months he would have to pay for her to go back then go through it all again ? Did he really think you could shortcut the system by getting her here , then getting the UKBA to feel sorry for him and waive her by ?

The point I am making is for other people reading this example who mabe thinking about cutting corners , it shows you in the long run the correct way to go,, and yes also it is bloody expensive , the whole thing is even when she is here ,, you still have at least 2 trips to the UKBA at Croydon to pay for Bio ID cards etc ,, UK test second version ,, ( which the government is currently raking in over 2 million a year from ) etc , my point is anyone thinking of doing it make sure you got enough of the folding stuff before you set off .

As for the OP I have no beef with him ,, if I had my way the fact that they are legally married they should be allowed to stay here without any of this crap , as we all should ,, as he states he pays his way and she cannot claim any benefits anyway,, if the government here removed the garbage from the UK that should not be here then this problem would not arise ,, as usual they are targeting easy people.

Sorry everybody but I have to agree with nigelandjan, it took 7 months for my g/f to get a visa to the UK and it was a fiance visa, she was refused a tourist visa twice. While it was hard to be apart for so long (I couldn't go back to Thailand due to work) we wanted to do everything by the book so my wife was 100% legal in the UK, sure it wasn't cheap or easy (Still isn't).

Brigante7.

My problem is with orbitz when im selecting infant on his own seat, it charges me as much as for myself.

Am i really supose to hold my kid for 24hrs on my lap for a price reduction?

Most airlines charge a nominal fee + tax for a child under 2 (UK to Thailand last year, £45 for my 4 month old boy) and yes they will have to sit on your lap unless the airline offers travel cots or you buy another seat for your baby. Who are you flying with? I've found that sometimes you get great deals booking direct with the airline other times better using an agent. Sorry I couldn't be of more use.

Brigante7