Brigante7

The police should not be called for a school discipline matter, unless the safety of other students is at risk. An obstreperous student disobeying about a phone is not a police matter.

The administrator is a dork.

I am sure the police officer and his supervisors are all reviewing and modifying the times when a School Resource Officer is allowed to intervene in the future.

Amazing level of defiance in the child to disobey every authority figure at the school and then to have parents commend her on her behavior.

In hindsight, I am sure the tescher, principal and police are wishing they had just let her sit there until her parent arrived and then explained thst she was expelled.

But then the racist NAACP would have turned it into a race issue, oh wait they already have.

The article states someone suggested this never happens to white kids.

Can someone tell me why white kids follow the rules and black kids are defiant?

Or was that not what the person quoted was suggesting?

To assume that white kids follow the rules is naive, to say the least, and probably racist.

It was the racist NAACP that said that it didn't happen to white kids.

Not enough money going to the correct people?

Being a paedophile is not a crime. Call him a child molester if he has been convicted of that, Get it right

You not knowing how to spell pedophile should be a crime.

It's spelt paedophile.

A good friend to have then.

I can't believe that the fare was 61 baht, the guy paid with 100 baht and got back 40 baht back in change. Something very fishy about that!!

Even stranger was that he used the meter, mind you it probsbly took 5 minutes of arguing with the driver just to get him to switch the meter on.

I wonder, in how many Taxis one should travel to spew out comments such as these? ^^

Around 90% of taxi journey's start with a "discussion" about the meter, at first I would argue with the driver until he switched the meter on but now I ask one time and if they still want to negociate a price then I exit the taxi, does that answer your question?

Seriously?

I'd say 99% of the time I get in a taxi they turn the meter on automatically.

Like I said before I must have one of those faces that make taxi drivers think my head is buttoned up the back.

I can't believe that the fare was 61 baht, the guy paid with 100 baht and got back 40 baht back in change. Something very fishy about that!!

Even stranger was that he used the meter, mind you it probsbly took 5 minutes of arguing with the driver just to get him to switch the meter on.

I wonder, in how many Taxis one should travel to spew out comments such as these? ^^

Around 90% of taxi journey's start with a "discussion" about the meter, at first I would argue with the driver until he switched the meter on but now I ask one time and if they still want to negociate a price then I exit the taxi, does that answer your question?

I can't believe that the fare was 61 baht, the guy paid with 100 baht and got back 40 baht back in change. Something very fishy about that!!

Even stranger was that he used the meter, mind you it probsbly took 5 minutes of arguing with the driver just to get him to switch the meter on.

I don't generally have a problem with taxis. I just say location and meter and that is it. I have twice had taxi drivers take me short distances and actually refused any payment. I have never had a metered taxi argue over tip (might give me a sad or quizical look). The minority of time they say won't go (maybe traffic jam or something), or don't want to use a meter.... I just say fine.... next (except for the last one that said meter not working and quoted me fare that was what the meter would have come to anyways.... so I am guessing it really was not working).

Lucky you, I have nothing but problems with taxi's in BKK, I would understand if I was rude but I'm always polite, I must just have one of those faces.

I can't believe that the fare was 61 baht, the guy paid with 100 baht and got back 40 baht back in change. Something very fishy about that!!

Even stranger was that he used the meter, mind you it probsbly took 5 minutes of arguing with the driver just to get him to switch the meter on.

In LOS no official are ever fired when found to be negligent or caught red handed with over 100 million Baht in a closet, as in the case of a former Transportation Permanent Secretary.

Unless, they belong to the party that is not in power. But the RTP is the exception to that dysfunctional rule.

Just imagine, police in some countries can actually shoot people dead if they are of a certain color....and not lose their jobs either....not even get sent to posts on "inactive duty"....would you believe that? Methinks Thailand has a long way to go yet to catch up with that practice.

And some of them even deserve it.

I wonder what would happen if her other 3 bf's see it on fb, "I send money to you, you said you were back in the village"

And you said that your family buffalo was sick, lol.

Or if your kids have Thai citizenship you can put the property in their name.

You have to be careful when reading many Thai acts to be sure you have the latest version.

This is the latest version of the Nationality Act B.E. 2508 (1965) with amendments until B.E. 2555 (2012) - English translation.

As I said before when your wife enters the country she has to stand her ground and not the let an immigration office push her to use her UK passport. One thing to do would be to insist they put the denial of entry on her Thai passport in writing before using the other passport.

Thank you to everybody for their advice, I think what I'll do is send the wife and kids through the automatic entry and hope for the best but I'll also tell her to stand her ground if challenged by an imigration officer and also to take Ubonjoe's advice and insist they put a denial of entry in her Thai passport.

Basically Thai's over 21 cannot hold dual nationality except for wives exempt under Section 13. It's not clear if Section 13 includes all wives, or just those that automatically obtained the nationality of her husband upon marriage. But, if my take on the Act is correct, only some wives are exempt. So entry to a wife holding dual nationality could be denied using a Thai passport that she maybe, by law, should have given up.

Absolutely is not so. Dual nationality by birth is fully permitted. Read my other posting to understand what the law says about having "to make a choice".

By the way, in case of Brigante's wife, the issue may have started with her not having an exit stamp on her Thai passport. Immigration is bothered when entry / exit count don't match.

My wifes current Thai passport was renewed in Thailand before she recieved her UK passport.

So why can thousends of other people with two passport enter Thailand with both their Thai and the other passport ? But your wife and your son can't do it !!

Thailand's Nationality Act clearly doesn't support dual nationality, but we are back to a common problem in Thailand of inconsistencies in applying the law.

Why most dual nationals get away with entering on Thai passports is because Thailand isn't enforcing the Act, AV and TS are two prominent examples, but that doesn't mean it can't be enforced. If you get an officious IO they could reasonably deny any Thai entry on a Thai passport if the person is over 21 and holds dual nationality.

Basically Thai's over 21 cannot hold dual nationality except for wives exempt under Section 13. It's not clear if Section 13 includes all wives, or just those that automatically obtained the nationality of her husband upon marriage. But, if my take on the Act is correct, only some wives are exempt. So entry to a wife holding dual nationality could be denied using a Thai passport that she maybe, by law, should have given up.

However, the IO was bang out of order, on all counts, for insisting that the children can't enter on Thai passports because, assuming they are under 21, they can legally hold dual nationality.

Clearly dual nationals are only presenting their Thai passport when entering the country to stay under the radar.

I'm not trying to defend the IO, but the idea that being Thai gives the automatic right to enter on a Thai passport is wrong if they're over 21 and hold another nationality.

I will argue the toss until they lock me up if they try and stop my son entering Thailand on his Thai passport!

Brigante7. Just out of interest. Is your wife's passport in her married or maiden name?

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Both passports, Thai & UK are in her married name.

We're going back in December and I'm buggered if I know what to do.

Just have them use the automatic gates as indicated above.

That's what I told my wife but she's scared incase she gets stopped.

We're going back in December and I'm buggered if I know what to do.

Yes, both times we've taken them to Thailand and attempted to enter using their Thai passports. The las time they even refused to allow my Thai wife to enter on her Thai passport, I wasn't happy to put it mildly but I knew it was something my wife had to take care of and not me.

You are saying the Thai Immigration are refusing Thai people to use their Thai passport

Yes sure....then your wife can never go back and live in Thailand how would they even know that she have another passport ?

I have a few friends with thai wifes that have two passports. They never have any problems when they arrive here once or twice every year.

Yes that is exactly what I am saying.

So why can thousends of other people with two passport enter Thailand with both their Thai and the other passport ? But your wife and your son can't do it !!

That's exactly what I was trying to find out but I had to walk away as I was losing my temper and so I left my wife to deal with it but they refused point-blank to allow them to enter on their Thai passports.

Yes, both times we've taken them to Thailand and attempted to enter using their Thai passports. The las time they even refused to allow my Thai wife to enter on her Thai passport, I wasn't happy to put it mildly but I knew it was something my wife had to take care of and not me.

You are saying the Thai Immigration are refusing Thai people to use their Thai passport

Yes sure....then your wife can never go back and live in Thailand how would they even know that she have another passport ?

I have a few friends with thai wifes that have two passports. They never have any problems when they arrive here once or twice every year.

Yes that is exactly what I am saying.

I never thought of that, I guess they will have to check-in online using their Thai passports but then there will be no record of them entering the country on said Thai passports so that might not work.

Thank you Skatewash, that's what we'll do in December.

It doesn't really matter what passport your parents used, your son wouldn't be allowed to enter Thailand using his Thai passport if he has a UK passport so don't worry about it.

Don't comment on stuff you know nothing about.

LOL, then somebody needs to tell the immigration officers who refused to let my wife enter Thailand with our 18 month old son in June 2009 on his Thai passport, insisting that she used his UK passport and again in October 2013 when they refused to allow my wife and 2 kids to enter Thailand on their Thai passports again insisting that they use their UK passports, my wife included who is Thai. When I asked how they knew my wife and kids had a UK passport we were told that they checked-in with UK passports, so don't sit there telling me not to comment on stuff I don't know about.

How did immigration know that they had UK passports?

The biggest mistake people make is showing both passports. Just show the Thai passport and keep the other one well hidden.

We never mentioned uk passports but when it became very clear that they weren't going to allow my wife and kids into Thailand on their Thai passports we had no choice, I have no idea how they knew they all had uk passports although they asked us our names and where we came from so it wouldn't have taken a genious to work it out.

Good to know, we're going back in December so I'll send my wife & kids through the automatic gates.

LOL, then somebody needs to tell the immigration officers who refused to let my wife enter Thailand with our 18 month old son in June 2009 on his Thai passport, insisting that she used his UK passport and again in October 2013 when they refused to allow my wife and 2 kids to enter Thailand on their Thai passports again insisting that they use their UK passports, my wife included who is Thai. When I asked how they knew my wife and kids had a UK passport we were told that they checked-in with UK passports, so don't sit there telling me not to comment on stuff I don't know about.

They can't deny them to entry with a Thai passport. They can hassle and try, but as soon challenged to a senior officer, they have to fold.

My thoughts exactly but 2 immigration officers refused to allow them in and like I said I wanted to allow my wife to handle it because I would have lost the plot which is the last thing that was needed.

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It doesn't really matter what passport your parents used, your son wouldn't be allowed to enter Thailand using his Thai passport if he has a UK passport so don't worry about it.

I never cease to be amazed by those who are willing to display ignorance in Public !

I know, especially by people who weren't there.