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24 minutes ago, Elfin said:Israel is NOT the Palestinas enemy, Hamas is,
I think that the IDF sniper who shot her dead is her enemy. Don't deflect the blame.
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2 minutes ago, DoctorG said:So, you were there and saw this happen as described? I am impressed.
No, but I can read.
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1 hour ago, ezzra said:Israel is NOT the Palestinas enemy, Hamas is, Hamas that cynical send ten of thousands of people to their imminent danger of death and injuries all in the false hope of ' returning home'
What is there to not understand the directive to not come near the fence? because if you will, you'll get shot, but still, they do it with incendiary devices and grenades,
how many more Palestinians have to die before Hamas realise that they're engaging in a stupid and dangerous gambit here?.....
I think by interpreting your jumbled post, that it is OK to murder an unarmed nurse, in uniform, with her hands raised in the air as she ran towards the fence to render assistance to someone who was injured.
Are you telling everyone that the IDF snipers' vision is so impaired that they can not identify an unarmed nurse?
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14 hours ago, bandito said:
As said by others you hate Israel and do tell the obvious reasons.
Jew hater!
Thanks Bandito!
It was obviously a cry for help and attention, but they will never confirm or deny this with me :)
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34 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:Israel does not "occupy" Gaza.
Israel does however occupy the airspace above Gaza, blockades the port and does daily incursions into Gaza by the IDF. Many of the Gazans have had their lands and homes occupied in the West Bank.
According to the UN OCHA: "..... the destruction of fuel storage tanks by an Israeli strike in July 2014; and Israeli restrictions on imports of spare parts and equipment, citing security concerns. In April 2017 the GPP shut down completely after exhausting its fuel reserves. It resumed partial operations in late June with fuel purchased from Egypt. Gaza also relies on the purchase of electricity from Israel and Egypt."
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" In recent years, the electricity deficit has required a rationing system entailing regular rolling blackouts of 12-16 hours per day, occasionally increasing to up to 22 hours. This has had a direct impact on the delivery of services, including health, water and sanitation, and education. To prevent the collapse of essential services, the UN is coordinating the distribution of emergency fuel to 186 critical facilities. "https://www.ochaopt.org/content/gaza-s-energy-crisis
Israel has developed into a rogue state, a failed experiment and the hub of double standards. Your last sentence GK has a more than a hint of truth in it.
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4 hours ago, ezzra said:The dufuses burns the very gas lines that Israel supply gas to them, burn and loot items that actually they were suppose to get and in the end, they will have to go without and pay for the damages, really clever people...
At least they didn't get shot with exploding bullets for this episode of protesting against their oppressive occupiers.
They obviously had their reasons for doing this and I am sure that those wonderful Israelis supply the gas 24 hours a day for very little cost to the Palestinians, just like they do with the electricity etc.
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5 hours ago, ezzra said:Ok.... Iran has made no secret of the fact that Israel is it's arch enemy
and it will stop at nothing to annihilate and bring about destruction to
zionist entity of Israel, small devil, the US being the big devil,
and keep repeating their threats every chance they have, and now
they develop nukes they bought from Pakistan and N. Korea, for what?
peaceful purposes, yeah, in your dreams..
Once again as Kiwiken asked you, when has Iran threatened anyone with nukes? Provide a link.....
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11 hours ago, geriatrickid said:
The land is uncontested and is not part of Gaza or the west bank.
Ummm Geriatric. The Gazans have farming land on the border fence. The buffer zone is 300 metres but the IDF may push that back to a kilometre or more, just depending on how many farmers they might want to murder on any given day.
By using the word "Arabs" I assume you mean the Palestinians and not the Israeli Arabs.
If you hate Arabs so much, then why do you go to Israel, which is in the Middle East???
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11 minutes ago, Swimman said:
I am a person who is not rude toward others -- I do not use emotive words like 'hell', 'lying' etc
I think this "conversation" has reached its end.
Well, you were rude to me but you can't see that. Why don't you chill out and go for a swim, man?
Now back to the topic please.
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11 minutes ago, Swimman said:I never respond to requests from those who make accusations of hysteria or of lying -- The evidence is out there go and find it for yourself.
Who the hell are you?? If you can't back up your accusations then don't write anything at all.
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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:
I was only saying that shooting fleeing people in the back (when that actually happens) is not defensible.
So what punishment should these gutless snipers get? One month's demotion with gardening leave? That is a typical punishment for the most immoral army in the world.
If it was a Palestimian who shot a jew, there would be an execution at point blank range.
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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:
You could have manned up and admitted you have something to learn about how the trope you used has been a weapon of hate, apologized, and moved on.
That's very condescending of you JT. As if
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4 hours ago, Swimman said:
Whilst two wrongs do not make a right Hamas ensures the children, women and other vulnerable people are pushed onto the front line and used as human shields. Evidence also exists of Hamas and other extremists shooting Palestinians to increase the body count
Swimman this sounds like hysterical pro-semetic lies. Can you provide links to this "evidence"?
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1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:So how do you think the IDF should respond to a raging mob hurling stones, using sling shots, burning tyres and kite born petrol bombs?
As Dexterm has recently pointed out, there are other methods of crowd control without using live ammunition-such as rubber bullets, stun grenades etc.
This is mainly a peaceful protest rather than your emotive "raging crowd". Tell me the last time an IDF member was killed by a hurled stone? I can tell you the last time an unarmed Gazan civilian was killed by a live bullet-TODAY!
And not just ordinary bullets-explosive bullets nevertheless.
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5 hours ago, rooster59 said:"The terrorists are hiding while allowing, even hoping, for their people to die.
This statement, apart from being an out and out lie, is vile in the extreme.
Danny Dannon shows what an evil zionist he is and is evil in its purest form.
Surely now is the time for the majority to rise up against the highly disproportionate use of force against the mainly unarmed Gazan people. They have a right to resist the oppressive occupier and to protest for their return to their lands.
And finally, do pray tell what is the Hamas "Naval Force" apart from a couple of old fishing boats??
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9 hours ago, ezzra said:
God knows how many millions of cars and other motorized vehicles
running around the coutry's roads every hour and every day, and among
those it's not unusual to find the odd agro, road rage hot headded
mongols that venting their madness on other motorists using their fists...
Huh? Mongols as in from Mongolia?? These are Thais doing this.
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I just want to say and I think . Therefore if,
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14 hours ago, ezzra said:When you have people who are trying to cross you borders with malice intentions, you'd be taking the same action, anyone would... as far as being kept in degrading, inhumane conditions, blame the Hamas leadership for using the billions to build dozens of attack and smuggling tunnels than to better the lives of their people...
The Hamas Movement does not ban the provision of coriander, pasta, crayons, childrens' books etc into Gaza. It is your people that inhumanely do this ezzra via your blockade.
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14 hours ago, ezzra said:
Didn't see you make such a frivolous statement when hundreds of thousands are being killed in Syria by the Russian, Iran and the Hezbollah while millions others made homeless.. why? are they lives not worth as much as the Palestinians lives? or do you suffer from myopic tunnel vision?....
This topic is not about Syria. It is about Palestinians protesting the theft of their lands by the Israelis. Stay on topic and stop trying to divert.
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"A Clayton's Police Force that Can't (Won' t) do their Job for what they get Payed to do."
Goodonya Digger! Its been ages since I have heard the term "Claytons". (The drink you have when you are not having a drink)
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On 4/4/2018 at 10:55 PM, Morch said:
Yeah, lets do go back to the topic at hand - which isn't the BS movement you support, or your attempts to misrepresent and whitewash it's less acceptable aspects. Notice how most of my post wasn't even about that, and yet your "let's get back to topic" reply somehow managed to ignore the rest of it.
You are still off topic but to clarify, I support the BDS movement-can you please tell me what the BS movement is?
The Palestinian death toll now stands at 18 according to the latest news report here, and that vid of an unarmed protester being shot in the back of the head is just sickening, but there have been many more instances of the same sort of murders caught on video in recent years, and no doubt the IDF sniper will go unpunished because the USA and other western leaders allow Israel to have complete impunity.
One day Israel may be bought to account, no matter how long it takes to hear all cases of war crimes.
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On 4/1/2018 at 12:26 PM, Morch said:
You can call it an "excuse", whereas it was actually fact. Even UNRWA complained about using it's facilities for such purposes. You can go on ignoring Hamas actions all you like - won't make them go away, won't make responding to them an "excuse".
The Hamas doggedly refuses to allow oversight of construction materials brought in, and takes much of what does make it inside to its own purposes. You'll have to work hard explaining how there aren't construction materials in Gaza, while the Hamas manages to construct miles of underground tunnels for its own use. Mind, none of these underground tunnels is used as public shelter and such.
The Palestinians, according to your nonsense, just want Israel gone. And somehow you expect Israel to accept that. More nonsense and more dishonesty - go on about how that BS movement you support is not against Israel's existence.
There is nothing in the BDS charter that says that it is against Israel's existence.
There is nothing in the BDS's actions that indicates it is against Israel's existence.
It is against the use of companies who profiteer from Israel's illegal occupation of the West Bank.
So dear Morch, let us go back to the topic at hand.
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Israeli army kills Palestinian nurse in Gaza border protest - medics
in World News
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I read widely-not just what appears on TV