tattoodrob

something funny going on...looks like you paid there tax payable on profit of house/land sale.....i would of taken this out of money to be given for the house/land ie purchase price.dont know how u paid but if it was cash on the day then should have give owners friend 20k less.if not i wouldnt have bought the house/land that day...its a buyers market! and you should not have any charges for the owner not being there...thats there problem not yours.you have been shafted but i think its probably too late to do anything about it as you paid it at the time.i think your wife should have spoke up at the time and found out what the <deleted> was going on or at least consulted lawyer type across the road for advice.

never put bars on me house....mainly coz dont like the look or feeling when inside.i did get a good alarm system so that if anyone enters the house then it makes a bloomin loud racket that would at least panic them slightly into hurrying up.i also have motion security lights outside and also have padlocks on all doors so they would have to at least go out windows and obviously break in thru windows.i keep no expensive valuables in the house and also have 6ft walls so not overly easy to carry a lot out.they would maybe get away with a few things.......old laptop,dvd player ...hopefully not the plasma,unless theres a few of them as difficult to get over the walls i hope.oh forgot to mention i have a english bull terrier...hes a recent addition and not bought for security purposes....also have samurai sword and tazor at hand.if some yabba'd up burglar wants to get in then he will but i hope the cost of what he could steal would be measurably less than cost of security grills over everything as no large cash or gold left in house.i also agree bars could be a fire hazard.and nearly everyhouse has access attainable through the roof tiles ,as every thai labourer knows!,as most houses have no secure loft space so there is no easy answer to security and thats why i suggest not leavin any valuables/large cash in the house so when it is your turn you dont lose too much and hope it doesnt happen too often.

its not always the farangs!!!!!! (sorry if someone else said same but i cant be bothered to read other comments)

i agree with the poster that said get them altered........find some clothes that are as near a fit as possible and go to one of the many seamstresses in town and get it took in.there is a small market opposite temple on south pattaya rd and nr second road junction that sells womens dresses mainly and has many places in back that wil alter them....sometimes while you wait.if thats no good then fatten her up a bit.hope this helps

Hi all,

Hope you are all well -

Has anyone else found that the hotels within budget ranges eg (£10 - 20) are hard to come by.

Our usual hotel the 'Baiyoke' cannot fit us in on the 28th Feb - 3rd Mar.

This is a bad indicator I would suspect as its a very large hotel, and wondering what advice the local expat community could best suggest.

My other issue I'm finding is the service provider i use (hope its ok to post this = http://www.asiarooms.com) dont allow for instant conformation, leaving me 24-48 hours lag before I know if the hotel Ive chosen has availibility.

At that rate I could be here until next december trying to get a good deal!

Any advice or pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated - thanks!

Lee

hello i would be very very surprised if you came here without booking a room for end of feb and wouldnt be able to find many at 650 to 1300 baht a night..........pattaya seems quieter every year now.....the only time i had trouble once before was when i came here at xmas 6 yrs ago without a prior booking and i had to share a room with my friend instead of have my own room and that was in popular location...im sure going out to second/third road i would have found something or even jomtien if pushed.remember websites often put on extra price for themselves......why not be slightly adventurous and get your taxi to take you round a few places in pattaya,im pretty sure soi bhukaow now has many many more rooms than ever before so a drive up there will find you a fairly nice room for your price range.

What would be the best advice I can give a very nice man who is about to throw his life savings away on some tart who has persuaded him to buy her a house. She won't marry him (wonder why ...?), claims kid's his but Thai man's name on birth cert (yawn). 30 year lease orrrrrrr, usufruct. Dear God, some of you, really ...

hello excuse me if im wrong but i dont think OP was persuaded to buy her a house ,i think he made the choice thru what he believed to be love(at the time.....and they did last 5 years so maybe love or she thought she could squeeze more out of him over time).he also didnt say she wouldnt marry him,he just said they werent married,maybe he didnt want to marry.i also dont think she claimed child was his as hes only been with her aprox 5 years and her daughter is an adult!!!

i am worried that he didnt wonder why she had so much property/land already.....this is a big clue to her greed as im sure was not bought by her,but maybe im wrong.

im sure she may have been to court previously and won all the properties she has ,which is why she may not give up easily although im sure she dont like spending money on a lawyer and travelling so it is god you dont just give up as thats what she will be hoping for.good luck

Oh, I do apologise, I was just piggybacking off this thread as I was too idle to start my own. But as there seem to be so many of you having gone through similar situations, thought one of you might be able to let me know what advice to give to another man about to embark on the a similar course of action, albeit without the benefit of marriage, (which, as I understand it would allow for a 50/50 split). I think if you read my post carefully again, sans beer chang next to keyboard, it will become clearer to you.

Thanks to all those who gave positive reponses.

I know, and fully acknowledge that I am an idiot and was taken for a ride.

Her 15 year old daughter was from a Greek Cypriot, he financed one house and the condo in BKK.

I think it is possible that she has a mental health problem, she often beats her daughter, to relieve her frustrations I think. I hate to imagine how many time she has beaten her since I left. When I told her never to do it again in front of me (6 years ago) she said it was normal in Thailand. She told me that one time when her daughter was very young, she beat her so bad that she took her to hospital, fearing that she had broken some of her bones.

1. She also has a 28/29 year old daughter from a Thai man (not legal husband) She says when he left her he took the daughter. She applied to the court for custody, and says she won, but decided to let her daughter remain with the father.( I now believe this to be untrue, I believe the court ruled in favour of the father because her father feared for her well being.

This relationship lasted 2 years.

2. She married a Thai man legally. She filed several police reports saying he beat her( The same as she has with me, which are untrue) She aborted a child of his.

This relationship lasted 2 years.

3. Next came the Greek Cypriot. She bore his child, now 15. She also aborted a child of his.

This relationship lasted 2 years. ( Although because of the daughter contact has remained, and before I met her, he sent money to her.

4. Next came a Dutch man.

This relationship lasted 2 years.

5. Next came me. I met her in Singapore, working the bars in Orchard Towers. I am and never have been a "sex tourist". I was in Singapore working. I am into country music. Orchard Towers at the time had 2 venues for country music. I fell for her "charms". She may have been from Cambodia, laos, Vietman or Nigeria, but she was from Thailand. That is the only reason that I came her and am still her.

The relationship lasted about 6 years!!!! Wow arn't I the unlucky one.

Anyway, sorry Thai ladies, I am sure that you are not all like her. Before I came to Thailand I had never experienced jealousy or greed before, and when you're a bit older, it hits you like a hammer in the face.

I have never known such filth can come out of a womans mouth before. Speaking to some friends, it would that a lot of Thai girls studied in the same school, as their girlfriends/wife also use the same language.

Once again I know that it is my fault that I am in this situation.

I will win, in that I am 100% confident.

eric thanks for more info on the biaaaaatch.

dont feel too bad that you were taken for a ride as you couldnt know better but some of the guys here do know better and it still hapens.its just a shame you didnt know about the older working thai ladies....they have been round the block and know every trick in the book on conning nice guys...it really bugs me that they have no consience(wrong spelling me thinks!) in taking everything some people have worked all there life to attain...ok if they rip us off for a bit but cmon its the whole lot then on to the next one for most of these blood suckers.i mean your one was still workin as a whore even though she had a guy sending her money,houses paid for that she could rent etc etc.....a real greedy one.it also saddens me that she would beat her young daughter black and blue,this is not a normal thai thing this is only normal if they are a selfish nasty piece of work......im afraid she only let you know what you needed to know about thailand and now you have found out the hard way now the doodoo has hit the fan.they will let you win a few battles on the way to make you feel better but they will do anything humanly possible when it comes to winning the war.as she was an older lady she probably acted as well as she could for as long as she could due to you possibly being the last farang she might get but in the end couldnt help but show her true colours.obviously you should have picked up on the history of getting a house/condo then relationship going wrong.....but it was too late by then im sure as your house was probably bought by then.ll i can say is that i hope some guys read these type of posts and learn ,if not dont come bitching here in a few years....that doesnt mean you as you was not aware of the goings on in thailand at the time.there are some good stories outhere,but lets be honest the majority are similar to yours..lets not kid ourselves that you are different and met a special girl.if money was what made her go with you in first place do you think this changes in time.....nope ....once they dont seem to get what they want or what there friends are getting then u r history.next please.

rant over.

eric i really wish you good luck and that u get one back for the decent people on this earth.

warning:are former boyfriends still in circulation......and really take care your back as there are documented cases where people are knocked off for a lot less than what she might lose here.....if you dissappear then case is over no questions asked....please be careful as your lady is a self confessed child batterer at the best,at the worst who knows.its happened to even nicer guys than you,remember they have no conciounse(really should learn proper spelling of that dam_n word)

What would be the best advice I can give a very nice man who is about to throw his life savings away on some tart who has persuaded him to buy her a house. She won't marry him (wonder why ...?), claims kid's his but Thai man's name on birth cert (yawn). 30 year lease orrrrrrr, usufruct. Dear God, some of you, really ...

hello excuse me if im wrong but i dont think OP was persuaded to buy her a house ,i think he made the choice thru what he believed to be love(at the time.....and they did last 5 years so maybe love or she thought she could squeeze more out of him over time).he also didnt say she wouldnt marry him,he just said they werent married,maybe he didnt want to marry.i also dont think she claimed child was his as hes only been with her aprox 5 years and her daughter is an adult!!!

i am worried that he didnt wonder why she had so much property/land already.....this is a big clue to her greed as im sure was not bought by her,but maybe im wrong.

im sure she may have been to court previously and won all the properties she has ,which is why she may not give up easily although im sure she dont like spending money on a lawyer and travelling so it is god you dont just give up as thats what she will be hoping for.good luck

Oh, I do apologise, I was just piggybacking off this thread as I was too idle to start my own. But as there seem to be so many of you having gone through similar situations, thought one of you might be able to let me know what advice to give to another man about to embark on the a similar course of action, albeit without the benefit of marriage, (which, as I understand it would allow for a 50/50 split). I think if you read my post carefully again, sans beer chang next to keyboard, it will become clearer to you.

okey dokey,i thought u were referring to original poster (and hadnt read such post )but now you have made it clear you were talking about your friend in near similar situation.

theres not a lot you can do as these guys dont believe it could happen to them...thats the real problem...denial,denial there all end up in the nile!!! seriously yes he should speak to a good lawyer who can give him the best option so he wouldnt lose everything when she decides shes had enough of him.also get him to read some forums like this one ,but i bet he wont do any thing sensible and will lose the lot but at least YOU tried.its a shame when these guys lose every penny they have as the lady will not feel in any way remorseful to leave you in the gutter while she moves onto the ........NEXT please.and there will be another mug waiting if shes a good actress which is a polite way of saying ...nasty lying cheating,good at hiding it,biaaaatch!!!!!

ps i dont drink chang anymore.....found out its made from fermented elephant droppings ....nice.

hello,it seems the guy you talked to is supposed to be a friend of the farang boss...is he thai or farang..i couldnt make it out and thought he might be thai as you say he worked in government here.it sounds that he could have an interest in this company or may be getting something out of it that the farang boss doesnt know about.when you told him what was going on their i thought he would have first been surprised ,then grateful and then put in a good word with his friend the farang boss as you basically helped him out and didnt get any renumeration for the hassle.did you ask why u were not getting paid?,did anyone know you found out all this info and thats why u werent paid.personally i would make contact with the farang boss somehow(letter,phone or in person) as he may think you done a runner and obviously then wouldnt pay you....he only knows you have gone and may not know why as it seems he is in the dark on all the wrongdoings going on.contact him,try and get a payment as well then inform what you know and then its up to him what he does with the info.......if hes so ill that he cannot talk or comprehend then you are stuck as wife is the robber i guess so not many people you could tell.dont think any authorities here would be overly bothered if they cant get any remuneration from it and if only the farang boss is losing out as then no harm done!!!!!!in their eyes.

otherwise i cant see how there is any problem ,if you havent told anyone, they have no reason to harm you or make you problems but personally i would want my paycheck as i dont like getting ripped off so the least i would do is get a letter written by a lawyer to farang boss wife saying that you want what you are owed or possibly you would take it further when allsorts of info could come out......go through your lawyer and never give your adress......if she is swindling so much then this is her best option.you could always inform the farang boss when you are long gone.......i would.

you dont specify region you want to look but i know of several shops in pattaya that sell large bikes of different types ie sports,choppers etc.i dont want to advertise for them on here but you can pm me if you need specific directions,but there is a couple on second rd and a couple on sukhumvit rd that i know of.

im no expert..........really.............but hasnt it been going up and down for years like this.of course we always want it up above 70........i also want to win the lottery....etc etc

I'm all for an increase in the GBP if it gets rid of some of the tattooed football hooligans and other assorted trash on budget holiday.

only the hooligans and trash on hols......what about us tattood hooligan trash that live here...ooops i mean what about the ones that live here......

seriously it wouldnt affect holiday makers too much as they spend stupid amounts on booze/birds as it is .............spoiling it for the rest of us keeniows living here.

The Big question is:

WILL THE LADIES IN PATTAYA adjust their rates to compensate for GPB deflation?

maybe if they knew what GPB was....even im confused........does it stand for General Penis Boner deflation ...if it does then im sure there could be a discount negotiated unless the GPB goes up again.

Someone works as an extra for 3 days and earned 4,500 Baht, someone else replies not worth it.

I suppose it depends on your lifestyle. 4,500 Baht would keep me fed and watered for over a month, and be very welcome.

surely even workin as an extra regularly would require some sort of work permit........and im not sure there is a big demand here for farang extras......is there??? and would have to pay your own travel/accomodation i think.........im sure would be a queue of people if plenty of work!!!

i have been on both sides of coin.......lived in condos while others make noise and also remodelled condos so have caused this terrible noise,which it is.

no good answer im afraid.....as some have mentioned ..having a house has less of this sort of ongoing noise as only next door neighbours work would affect you.

only real solution is to go to beach or wherever during day when you know condo near yours is being worked on.

you should see the dust created in these condo renovations too but thats another story.

On one of my regular off road rides there is a pitbull type monster living in a house beside a lake. I could take a detour to avoid the house but i prefer to be chased. It gives a surge of adrenaline and an excuse to really push hard when i am feeling tired. Not all rabid denizens of doggie hel_l are bad

if you enjoy your adrenalin surges...cycle to house,park bike......start jogging past the house (great surge for sure) ....u might have to see if its a better swimmer than you too......i think they call this perfect triathlon training.sorted

bring old beemer.....................definitely NO. way too much hassle here to justify bringing a car hence hardly anyone brings.

looks like you got some good advice from other members,check costs for bringing other items then decide if worth the wait/coat.

What would be the best advice I can give a very nice man who is about to throw his life savings away on some tart who has persuaded him to buy her a house. She won't marry him (wonder why ...?), claims kid's his but Thai man's name on birth cert (yawn). 30 year lease orrrrrrr, usufruct. Dear God, some of you, really ...

hello excuse me if im wrong but i dont think OP was persuaded to buy her a house ,i think he made the choice thru what he believed to be love(at the time.....and they did last 5 years so maybe love or she thought she could squeeze more out of him over time).he also didnt say she wouldnt marry him,he just said they werent married,maybe he didnt want to marry.i also dont think she claimed child was his as hes only been with her aprox 5 years and her daughter is an adult!!!

i am worried that he didnt wonder why she had so much property/land already.....this is a big clue to her greed as im sure was not bought by her,but maybe im wrong.

im sure she may have been to court previously and won all the properties she has ,which is why she may not give up easily although im sure she dont like spending money on a lawyer and travelling so it is god you dont just give up as thats what she will be hoping for.good luck

if you do lose the lot then if i were you i would send a bulldozer round one day when no ones in and flatten the lot

and then get arrested & put away for destruction of a property that you have no legal claim to destroy lets not be silly now.

... but at least he'll feel better and if he knows what he's doing, which he doesn't appear to, there's ways around most things here.

exactly..she would have to prove he had anything to do with it and with a watertight alibi(ie not in the country etc) it would be difficult.obviously after cannot go usual places that she knows of buy hey small sacrifice.im not suggesting he do it im just saying what i would do

if you do lose the lot then if i were you i would send a bulldozer round one day when no ones in and flatten the lot........then imagine her face when she gets home.....well ...back to land anyway hahahah

lets see her sue you over that!!!

It hurts me to say this as I am by proffesion a proffessional firefighter(maybe that's why I think this way) but a can of petrol and a match is cheaper.Please ensure the house is empty at the time.

Good Luck and watch your back. you may wan't to relocate till it's over.

I'm into the saying" revenge is a meal best tasted cold". So after all is settled I'd pay a lady or two and send your now ex-wife some porno pictures of yourself with other ladies

The only problem i can see with this is that maybe the fire doesnt destroy the whole lot(or gets out out!) and she can still live there somehow.....whereas my way she would have to rebuild at large expense or only at best have the land to sell...having to clear the rubble.hmmmmm revenge ......burning the house down not enough for you???......i like your style mister......not sure photos would bother her as much as anything that would make her poorer somehow as money seems to be number 1 here(which is a shame)

Yes that was bound to happen to it someday. I'm pretty sure most members here can relate to this story. I used to be attacked everyday by this big nasty looking dog at the bottom of my soi until one day I just stood outside the owners house shouting at them to come out. I told them that if the dog bites me I will go to the police. After that it was usually kept inside the large gates of the house.

I'm also pretty sure that a lot of animal lovers who are new, or have never been to Thailand will not share your lack of compassion about the animals untimely demise. However after living there for a while and having your daily activities (not to mention sleeping patterns) totally ruled by these creatures, it is sometimes hard to be sympathetic.

At least it didn't suffer too much, and now you are free to jog in peace, at least until the next one comes along !

hes a cyclist.........although maybe he wants to start jogging now dog is dead.

its a shame about the dog as he was only doing what is natural to him......i dont like it if the owner is aware it is doing this as should not have a dog if not going to take care properly,but im afraid this is thailand

This past October when I was in Thailand. I made some friends with some first time travelers. We met in Phuket and happen to fly back to Bangkok on the same flight and shared a Taxi to our separate hotels.

During the time in the Taxi, I was giving advise and answering their many questions. As it turned out through talking, they were from New Jersey and I am from Delaware and our states neighbor each other..... We had no problem when talking but they did ask me.... "Why are you talking with broken English? It is so funny that you are talking to us as if English is our second language" (They they laughed a little).

I explained that I am so use to talking that way while in Thailand that it is difficult to turn it off....

Also when I am talking with Thia's who were educated in English speaking lands, they will remind me that I can talk to them in regular English.

yeh i use to have a bar and was always pulled up for talking this broken english way to my foreign customers........you feel like a pratt when they say what are you talking like that for.unless you can speak thai then im afraid its the easiest way to comunicate out here or i find you end up repeating yourself too many times which is even more annoying.i find when i sms or email i tend to write in this broken way too.........must be annoying to my foreign pals to read,think ive lost the plot...or at least my education .i agree too that then trying to talk to a thai in my normal english way is difficult.......i think its something all we foreigners do when we have stayed here a while and holiday makers dont understand but believe me they would be the same .whats even funnier is when two english guys who live here talk to each other in this broken english way and dont notice there doing it.

sorry if ive repeated what other people have posted but i aint read em all yet!

if you do lose the lot then if i were you i would send a bulldozer round one day when no ones in and flatten the lot........then imagine her face when she gets home.....well ...back to land anyway hahahah

lets see her sue you over that!!!

sir it might help others if you cum clean and tell us wot happened.

if only one man can be saved froma a treacherous thai woman then yr experience will not have been in vain.

Ok Blizzard, I'll try to keep it short.

We met late 2000. Started living together late 2001, in Bangkok. We moved out of Bangkok late 2004, when I retired. I am now 58, she is 49. Early 2005 she started to get jealous (It is all in her mind, as I had never been with another woman. After almost 2 years of this, her accusations were getting dirtier and more intense, I told her I could not live with her anymore. She said she'd kill me if I left her. Anyway she and her daughter went to Bangkok in March 2007 and stayed away for 7 weeks. She never called me or anything. So I moved most of my stuff out of the house. Anyway, before she left I asked her for a 50/50 settlement. (I paid for everything, and still have receipts and bank transfers etc) She said no. I said that I would have to consult a lawyer, she said go ahead. My lawyer saw her, she said she wants all. We both went to see a senior monk, with my lawyer and her daughter. The monk told her she was a bad woman to me and she had better be careful as it may be her last time in this world. So I waited for 2 months to see if she'd change her mind. She didn't. We went to see a Court officer, and over 4 hours we came to a written compromise. We both signed it, this was in late September. In the compromise she acknowledges that I paid about 97%, and she had contributed about 3%. Now in court, she says she did not understand what she signed. The judge said it was too late to say that now. So she has now had the nxt hearing put back until Feb 2009. She is playing a game with me, and using any possible delaying tactic. There is also a lot of other things involved, but they were sorted out in the compromise. Only the land with the house remains for the judge to decide. But as I said she is delaying things. She wants a 4 day hearing, and 2009 is the first available. I am proceeding with other tactics, but cannot elaborate as I don't want anything to jeopardize the hearing. I am almost certain to get at least 50%. By the way my lawyer is on a no win no fee contract.

thanks for sharing story....hopefully a warning to those that may think of doing what you did.i think it should only go in thai name when you are prepared that at some point you may lose it all.i cant believe how greedy/calous/vindictive some of these ladies can be.i mean they come in the relationship with next to nothing and arent even happy when they take half of everything.in your case as shes being so greedy i would try and get as much as possible(ie more than 50 percent) and push your lawyer to do this.

i cant believe the judicary system in thailand......its not a good sign that the courts are so busy...says something .also surely someone there should say this shouldnt need a 4 day hearing,its quite straight forward as she had already admitted you put 97 percent in(can u get lawyer to point this out and say she is just doing it to delay).i would have thought a judge would only take minutes to decide what sort of settlement is reasonable as you both agree on the facts.

also i dont understand how many claim to be budhists but wont listen to a senior monk and quite happy to literally steal your money you put into land/house......didnt think this was how budhism was supposed to work!!money is the real god here for sure.its a shame.rant over.....wish you good luck mate.....meanwhile watch your back if you know what i mean

The Thai Postal service is normally very efficient even compared to the equivalent Western Services such as Parcelfarce or Aus Post.

Surface mail can take many months to arrive. A friend sent back a large box of personal effects back to Australia from Bangkok and it took almost 6 months. That can be normal apparently!

As for the OP's predicament his item was mailed as SAL, otherwise known as Economy Air-Mail and usually takes significantly longer than normal Air-Mail. Usually around 21 days, possibly up to 6 weeks.

i dont understand how anything can take 6 months........must have just taken up space wherever it was....thought they would shift it on to get it out the way.....sorry im just thinking out loud(and writing!)

i find the royal mail uk efficient......maybe problem is that a lot of parcels dont get to uk and they get blamed for it not arriving at uk destination!! i have had parcels go missing at bkk........tracked it to there and disappears into the black hole generally known as thai pocket.

thai post take care very good and very security minded they even open every parcel to make sure no bombs inside ,even the letters go through this check bless em and thankyou

workin at the post office must be nearly as lucrative as being a copper here.....maybe the queues you see there are thais applying to work there.

Anyone know what the deal was with the older farang last night about 2am in mcdonalds sukhumvit soi 19. Arrived for my get me home big mac to be confronted with some older farang chasing the security guard round the inside of mcdonalds with a wooden pole he produced from from his trouser leg. Followed by starting to throw the chairs round the place and screaming he is going to wreck the place. Entertaining.

However looked like it might get a bit nasty as a group of Thai guys appeared moments later outside with what looked like sharpened screwdrivers and other weapons...

the Bigmac as ever was delightful.....

wow while this was going on you still got your mac........thats good service!

why didnt you ask the farang what was wrong.....he might have told another farang....no harm in asking.bit weird he has a wooden pole down his trouser leg.......sounds like he maybe had trouble with the security guy before and came back with a weapon.

cant believe you left before seeing the finale to this show........you must be the most un nosey person i know.......i woulda found a good spot and enjoyed the food/entertainment.

was there no other farangs there that you could of asked why he was going mental.......now we all wondering what happened and your the one that could of told us if you just stayed a little longer.....u coulda ordered some fries or something now i wont be able to sleep thinking about it