rwilem

You know, it's OK. I just came on this thread to share my experience. What bugged me is why I couldn't choose either one of my current payment options to 'activate' VIP, which I've detailed earlier. OK, this was my experience. Some above can say I'm 'full of it.' Whatever. Just can only say what my experience was. Furthermore, as I said earlier, Shopee should state in the Shopee app that Pay--and have to assume Pay Later--are for Thais only. I'm fine with that. But not being aware of that info at all, I wasted a lot of time struggling with facial rec selfies and then passport photo upload failures before packing it in. It would good for Shopee to inform unaware folks like myself trying to set up Pay that Pay is not available for foreigners. Say it, right there at the top of the Pay set-up page. I'll take another crack later at trying to 'activate VIP'. Not really in a rush for it, no. Will change the default payment option to bank account before doing it, see if that changes anything.

Yrs, it's a foreign card, for my default payment. I have a local bank account set up as another payment option. This is from the Shopee app, of course. I don't have the shopee pay app. (If I already had it, they wouldn't be asking me for all that stuff I detailed earlier to get a Pay account set up, right?) I'm in Thailand and no, not using a VPN.

And this is what I see trying right now to authorize VIP. I have a card as my default payment in Shopee, and it's not even showing. In fact, the page is not responding to anything. (Maybe from last weekend's numerous attempts, my account is blocked for VIP???) And this is what I get right now on the app trying to access VIP. My default payment card is not even showing. In fact, the entire pages is not responding to anything. (Maybe the numerous attempts over the weekend has caused them to 'block' my account from VIP???)

And is that from your currently logged-into app? Of which you are already a VIP member? Well, of course, that's what you are going to see. Hey, I'm just sharing on the forum my experience. What is it...YMMV, right?

OK, and that was two months ago. As of last weekend, the payment option page presented to me during the VIP sign-up forced a choice of either the Pay or Pay Later. Current payment method at the bottom of the page was greyed out, it could not be selected. There was no way to 'ungrey' it. (Otherwise I would have selected the current method.) But I will give it try later using a computer, see if that does anything. Websites and apps of the same company sometimes operate or handle things a bit differently from each other.

You're not quite understanding. I already had two payment options set up for Shopee. By bank transfer was already set up, and by credit card, which I'd made the default payment option. These apps are updated all the time, and things change with the updates. When I went to sign up for VIP, after agreeing to payments ($1.00, to be refunded later, and 49 B monthly) I then got a payment option page. Could not continue with any current option, it's not available. Could only choose from Pay and Pay Later to continue the VIP sign-up process, which opened up the can of worms I detailed earlier, because foreigners are not allowed to sign up for (or have?) Shopee Pay. (I assume that also includes Pay Later.) So basically, on the current version of the app a foreigner is not able to get VIP. At least from my experience, it's a no go.

Right, I get it. I came upon this thread after my experience. Just a regular guy, cruising around the app. Everything's, for the most part, all in English there. Who's English for? Maybe not Thai people right? So there's the sentence, 'hey, become a VIP member, lots of benefits...blah, blah, blah.' All in English. But if you are forced to change to a Pay or Pay Later option, a foreigner can't proceed, continue with the steps to get VIP. They need to say clearly in the app the sentences in my prior post that I elicited from them about foreiners and ShopeePay. Save folks a hassle.

It's all very confusing. When I attempted to become VIP the other day, at the early stage I had to select either ShopeePay (wallet) or Shopee Pay Later. No option to proceed with my current payment method, which is a foreign credit card. So I selected ShopeePay, may as well go for it, join the crowd, and also get the VIP. But it was at the upload your ID document where it ended. Only have a passport, it doesn't work with the format for uploading a photo. (The size for the ID is an ID ard size, a pic of passport just doesn't work. And contrary to sime reports there is no option to upload a photo of the passport.) Had already agreed to being charged $1.00 on the card--to be refunded later after verification, etc. --and agreed to the 49 B a month charge. OK. But without having completed the VIP signup, because of not being able get past ID verification for ShopeePay--the payment option I was forced into choosing--I wonder now where the already agreed-to auto-charge status now stands on the card. Because I already checked 'yes, take it, 49 B a month.' Want to seek clarification on that, and of course any help if it is indeed possible as a foreigner to get Shopee VIP. Tried explaining all that on 'chat' at the app. Virtual rep Shoji, Shuji (?) responded that I should try 'live agent', 'live chat', and I did but got no response, almost a repeat of Shoji's. OK, I found an email address for support for ShopeePay, and sent a message detailing this a few hours ago. My questions were not really addressed. The person--was/is it a person?-- said to contact chat at the app! Runaround Sue, haha. However, they did answer this question that I asked. Are ShopeePay and VIP not available for foreign residents? (And I noted that if they are not, it would be better if they clearly stated the info on the app. Save everybody a lot of trouble.) Quoting from the email: "Since 1 October 2023 new foreign customers are not allowed to apply for ShopeePay Wallet account. We are allowed to apply Shopeepay Wallet with Thai ID Card only." My experience with registering for, attempting to register for, VIP and agreeing to be charged every month, was that it forced me to choose either ShopeePay or ShopeePay Later for the payment option. Could not continue with my already-in-use payment method of credit card. (This was all done on the Shopee app.) Anyway, just gonna forget about becoming a 'VIP' on shopee. But, c'mon... They really should just state clearly on the app--it's all in English, all the details and steps--they should just clearly state foreigners can't apply anymore for ShopeePay. Just say it, save folks some trouble.

Have been trying and failing for a while to complete the process for getting VIP. Gotten as far as the facial/confirm ID biz, but not having a Thai ID card is a hurdle not able to overcome. Taking a photo of the passport info page is just fail after fail. Oh well.

Crazy. This report really reads like it's been posted a month early. It would not be surprising to see something similar posted on the first of next month. What an ordeal!

Hey, I get it. To each their own, and if you've got an MO that you like and it's working for you, keep on keepin' on!

Yeah, obviously. You could have an agent do it for you, I suppose. You do understand what I'm saying here, in these posts, right? If you are obligated to get these documents from the bank, it's not a bad idea at all to get them done in advance of the day you apply for the extension. Furthermore, getting them at a branch in town is probably less of a PITA (and I don't like them, either) than trying to get them from a branch at the immigration building (in the case of CW) potentially crowded with others seeking the same. Take a number and wait. The idea is to 'lighten your load', so to speak, of tasks needing to be done for the extension. Break it up, do some of them in advance and make for an easier 'extension day'.

I get the letter and statement a couple days before the day I plan to do the extension at immigration. Get them in advance, get that part done and out of the way. Then the only things left to do on 'extension day' are the bankbook update and copies of the relevant bankbook pages.

What I'm talking about is a day-of-extension 'breeze-by' of a branch of your bank while you are on your way to immigration. Stick the bankbook in the 'passbook update' terminal outside the branch. Don't even have to go inside the bank. It takes Iiterally seconds. Then all you need is to get it copied, which is quite easy to do after arriving at immigration.

Not really, unless one is trying to get their extension done early in the morning right after immigration opens. Otherwise, the 'bank letter' (confirming ownership and balance) and 'bank statement' (12 months' record of account activity) can be acquired in advance of 'extension day'. (A preferable practice that eases tasks on extension day.) All that's needed then is a day-of-extension bankbook update, which can be done at any conveniently-located branch of one's bank while on the way to immigration. Get copies of the bankbook after arriving at immigration, then you're good to go.

It's not immigration. The changes are not with immigration. The banks want, require, your updated passport details. A new passport among them. And they are most interested in your immigration status. Some (more, many, and some point perhaps all?) will close the account if the immigration status associated with the passport is not in the 'approved' category. I think the banks can even see details of one's phone number that it is tied to an older, now expired passport. Maybe, maybe not, but we're in the age of data sharing. Banks will most likely tell you to update the new passport details with the service provider. If you are using the bank's app you might be told to update the details with the provider to continue using the app. Is is 100 percent uniform? No, but it's probably headed that way. Anyway, the providers want to be updated about any changes in passport details, though they don't care too much about the immigration status like the banks do.

That would have been what, ten years ago? (OK, five at least if your country's passport validity is such.) Things have changed. Especially with concerns for one's passport details and immigration status to be confirmed (and re-confirmed) with their bank and phone service providers. Lot of things been happening on those fronts, the past couple years especially.

Which office? Yes. Just something as small as which line you input the address number or room number can throw off getting an APPROVED response. Anyway, if you are still within the 'window' to submit online (15-to-7 days before the due date; though some locales apparently still allow online submission up to the due date) no harm in giving it a second try, and even a third before the due date, if need be. I've gotten an APPROVED on a third try which was submitted even a couple days AFTER the due date; yes that happened. That was at a time when I'd do the report online maybe 3-4 days before it was due--during the time you could do it online up to the due date--thinking I wanted to get close to 'full value' of the 90 days. Not really applicable right now to the OP's situation, but if he does get an APPROVED on a second or third try then the following should be beneficial to him, and anyone else doing their '90-day reports' online. Best MO is think of it as a '75 day report'. Submit it two weeks ahead of the due date. Seems to make it run smooth, and gives you an opportunity to re-submit again (and again if need be) to get an APPROVED.

OK, you are at the Thailand Post site, and say you are being asked for a tax ID number there? Don't know what that's about, unless this is a new development. Of course you need your SS# to complete the passport renewal application. But for Thailand Post to ask for and require it? That would be surprising, unless again there's been a change in the process to purchase the envelope that I'm not aware of. I completed a renewal about 18 months ago. The embassy had changed several of the procedures for renewals during the covid era and a few more in the year prior to my renewal. But I'm not aware of any new changes since I completed my renewal and I try to keep up with developments on this topic. Now, If you have a foreign credit card, a U.S.-based card, you might try giving that a go. It's what I used to complete the purchase of the envelope, it went through smoothly and I was not asked/required to provide other info. Also, Thailand Post, if they are asking for a tax ID number, you would have to think that's for a Thai tax id number, which many people do not have. If they do want your SS# they need to be more clear about that. Does Thailand Post not offer a bank transfer option for payment of the return envelope?

I think you know the answer to your question. An extra hour you had to spend there this time, you deal with a small office, it's a once-a-year ordeal.... it's not worth it. Nothing positive would come of lodging a complaint (to who, and where?), and it's possible it could blowback and have negative consequences for you. Check the ego at the door. Not a betting man, but guessing next year won't be a repeat of this recent experience.

Does this app even work? Other apps Immigration had in the past have gone belly-up. Using a phone to access the website pages for both online appointments and 90-day reporting, which are optimized for mobile, works like a charm. Would be no need to use an app. Always better to use websites, if you can, instead of installing (another) app.

To clarify, you have not had the stamps transferred to the new passport yet? If that's the case, then certainly you will need to present both passports. Prepare copies of the front page of both and the last extension, entry info, any visa or info of the original visa the extension is based on, contained in the old passport. This is at a minimum. Your office may require more. CW does not ask for copies of all previous extensions, just the current one.

It appears to have been a bunch of baloney--in this case, at least--having told you, and others I suppose, that you can't do 90-dayers online again until you've returned from a trip abroad. If I may suggest, it's best to submit the report online on the first or second day the 'window' opens. (Easiest way, just do it two calendar weeks ahead of the due date.) Why? Two issues. One, the window for some places (or more than some, as in many or most?) is back to the previous 15-to-7 days before the due date to submit the report online. (Some, many--I don't know--may allow online 90-day reports to be submitted up till the due date. The office at CW doesn't. It has gone back to the 15-to-7 days prior to the due date window.) The other? Doing it right when 'your window' opens gives you a shot at coming back and submitting it again if your submission is REJECTED. Even if you get the same REJECTED on attempt no 2, you still may have a shot at getting a third attempt resulting in APPROVED. It's happened for me, to get a third try APPROVED after two prior attempts resulted in REJECTED. This is for CW. Your 'next due date' is calculated from the day your successful submission is received there. And if you follow the pattern of submitting two weeks in advance of the 'due date', yes, you are kind of turning the 90-day report more or less into a 75-day report. I've found the whole online thing runs smoother if you approach that way.

Just want to make clear what I had suggested above, as you said you like Kasikorn and dislike Bangkok bank. If you like Kasikorn enough to move your funds for immigration purposes there, that's what you would do. Get your bank letter in advance of the day you would attend immigration for the extension. I get mine one or two days prior, but like Dr. Jack says CW will accept them issued up to seven days prior. Then on 'extension day' just get the bank book updated at a branch near where you live, or one on the way to immigration. If you decide to go with Kasikorn, that's how you would play it.

As I always maintain, you have an MO that's workin', stick with it!