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Don't forget he's got to get permission to leave the country due to an outstanding case against him, and his last recent attempt to go overseas was refused

My situation was a little bit like Fulhamster. When I got a new passport nothing was said about a new TM30 when I transferred the stamps, however when I did my next retirement extension they asked me to do a new TM30. I'd say nothing is certain with Jomtien so I'd just progress one step at a time as you say and see if they bring it up. It's not a big deal filing a new TM30.

Why would you even contemplate using one when you have the pre-determined pricing model of Grab and Bolt at your fingertips Just another irrelevant whinge from a perennial moaner. Is this the nearest thread you can find to work in your daily policing whine ?

Utter garbage, a total fallacy. The Southern provinces bordering Malaysia are hugely dependent on their neighbours for tourism, why would tourists fly there when it's more convenient and cheaper to cross by land. Same applies to other neighbouring crossing points, after all if it's good enough for Westerners travelling around SE Asia why wouldn't Asians from those countries do the same coming to Thailand for a holiday. Yeah let's count every Cambodian and Burmese worker coming into Thailand and earning a pittance as a tourist so we can show a huge increase in our tourism revenue. Seriously ? Aside from the fact the length of stay figures by those countries, which they publish, don't support your theory, they would be shooting themselves in the foot by lowering overall average spend per tourist - a figure they want to show increasing.

I haven't seen what you describe happening in Jomtien yet, I'd say the Indians stay in south/central Pattaya. For as long as I remember the beach side of Pattaya beach road has always been a blight of open solicitation and down and out local drunks, druggies and vagrants. The fact the authorities didn't clean it up years ago answers your question - nothing WILL be done about it. Avoiding it and obvious areas where what you dislike happens is your only solution.

I tend to agree with you having seen a notable increase of anti-social behaviour and criminal behaviour in Pattaya in the last year. I don't know whether it's down to the entry relaxation, legalisation of marijuana, extension of late night drinking hours or a combination of all 3, but something has changed it for the worse. I don't think the volume approach is working in Thailand's favour, it's lowering the attractiveness and quality of the main tourist areas with debatable legitimate revenue benefits. Unfortunately the country is so corrupt that I can't see the powers that be ever being capable of improving the product offering to attract a better standard of tourism. They cater to predominantly cheap mass tourism which they need to absorb a vast unskilled labour force.

They are not in line to smash 40 million tourists this year and it will never happen while the Chinese are staying at home. No other market can generate sufficient numbers to compensate for their shortfall.

I personally can't see the attraction of Thailand for the Chinese package tour bus loads that are staying at home. Being bussed around to crappy man made " attractions " and in some cases pressured to buy absolute tat would be my idea of the holiday from hell. They may go once but I'd have thought they'd be unlikely to be repeat visitors. Can't help feeling Thailand is a bit past its sell by date as an attractive destination for numerous reasons that you read about in the news on a daily basis. A lack of public infrastructure investment, corruption, poor transport and other safety, policing that's more about fining tourists for minor traffic offences than providing a safe environment to enjoy a holiday, violence and very average service standards compared to the competition. Would anyone say that Phuket, Pattaya or Samui are more attractive value for money places to holiday now than say 10 years ago ?

I don't know who is buying in there but given the sheer scale I suspect it would be reasonable to assume this could be another AirBNB job used more as a hotel than a permanent residence. That is just going to increase the traffic scenario above.

Given the traffic levels around the lights at the Pratumnak intersection if the crane had toppled in that direction it could have been carnage. I'm presuming there has been zero thought by the powers that be to the absolute traffic gridlock that is going to result when that condo is finished. I can see a scenario in peak season where traffic is backed up half way down the hill. Crazy they allowed something that big to be built with the infrastructure limitations.

You obviously haven't studied the average price of property in Cardiff because it's entirely possible Harold will have sufficient funds from his property sale to get the first basic of successful Pattaya living right, and that is getting decent comfortable rental accomodation. You seem to have a fixation on poor sized, facility deficient and generally crap accomodation. Normal people with reasonable, not excessive funds, can afford to live in decent accomodation in Pattaya, the choice is endless. That's the first crucial building block, get that wrong and it's an uphill battle from the start.

Excellent post, pretty much sums up GG. His regular monthly post on this subject is just a variation on the same theme. He's just projecting his own failings at being able to enjoy a simple 3 week holiday onto other peoples aspirations and potential experiences.

So many grand proposals so little actual progress or improvement in public services/facilities/infrastructure. Third rate construction jobs by cowboy operators digging and redigging the City streets for no public benefit is about as " Smart " as Pattaya gets unfortunately.

Yeah that was a strange one, if I was singling out one dominant nationality certainly in Central Pattaya I would have said it was Indians

" Personally I didn't spend an excessive amount on this trip ". Therein lies part of the volume/value equation conundrum facing Thailand's tourism industry.

Georgegeorgia ?

I would have thought a tourist considering booking a 60 day visa free holiday might reconsider the length of their trip now the government have publicly said they are looking into reversing recent changes. Introducing uncertainty into tourist visa policy doesn't seem like the wisest move to boost tourism

The suspense of waiting for an annual bill of a few hundred baht, life on the edge. 😁

If I were you I think I'd first try mastering the art of getting suitable holiday accomodation for a few weeks, as failure in that department seems to end up with you crying yourself onto the plane every trip vowing to do us all a favour and never return.

Thanks, hopefully I'll never have to test that scenario out.

Not sure I'd say anywhere in Pattaya has what I consider a walkable ecosystem, I personally find the state of the pavements and the built up concrete/non-green environment one of the biggest drawbacks living here now. It doesn't have a "college feel" and I felt the air quality deteriorated significantly this year. I think in all the other points it's as good a place as any because I doubt anywhere can match all your requirements . Be interested to hear your thoughts after your one month sortie, good luck.

You'll do well to get past Soi 7/8 area of Beach Road dry in a baht bus. Let us know how you get on. 😁

So around 3,000 baht or so a month here, hardly likely to dent a 40,000 a month budget. Personally I budget double than and can go out and socialise with my friends in a regular pub/sports bar every 2 or 3 days. Any heavier and it would likely adversely affect my health and I'd probably enjoy it less anyway

I like my wine, can't be bothered with the fake nightlife scene and I effing hate karaoke. Works for me I think you are looking at the cost equation too much from a 2 week tourist mindset. How much do you drink a week in Australia ?

400,000 revellers not eating for a week, must be the biggest hunger strike anywhere.