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4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Which browser you getting that in, Pib?
Chrome and Edge.
Additionally the TM30 website is super slow to open....takes approx 30 seconds to open....normally it opens within a second or two....but it give a captcha.
I expect Immigration is having server issues on more than one of their systems.
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1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Thanks for that re the pre-filling method.
And also for confirming, that I'm not the only one experiencing "captcha" failure! 🙂
TG, I/m seeing the same thing. The problem is on their end.
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On 10/23/2023 at 7:55 PM, Pib said:We've talked a little bit about ground clearance in relation to driving thru water/flooded area. As I read my 200 page Atto 3 manual in prep of getting my car this week the manual gives some conflicting info on the depth of water to avoid. On page 98 is says water depth must not exceed the vehicle's lower edge. The Atto has a ground clearance level of 175mm.
But then just a few paragraphs later on page 99 it says do not drive thru areas where the water level exceeds half the tire height. I'm assuming where they say "tire" they mean the rubber tire "and" steel rim as if it's the rubber tire portion only then that would only be around 50mm. Today I measured the halfway height of an Atto setting in a parking lot (hope the owner didn't see me) and it was 330mm from pavement to center of the rim.
Seems to me half way up the wheel...which is 330mm on the Atto should be the safe limit assuming it was a short distance and you keep moving. In the perfect world where it never rains hard causing standing water on roads the possibly of driving thru water is close to zero, but in the real world and especially in the tropics such as Thailand where rain can quickly cause unavoidable road flooding and big mudpuddles hopefully BEVs with their traction battery on the bottom of the car can handle driving thru water half way up the wheel for short distances especially since the traction battery and high voltage components are suppose to waterproof per IP67 which means waterproof for short periods in up to 1m of water.
See three snapshots below.
I got some additional info with measurements to add to my earlier post above. After seeing the recent posts regarding the BYD Seal flooding I did some measurements today related to my BYD Atto 3 and road curbs. That is, just how high my Atto's traction battery is above road level, mid point of my wheels, and how high a typical road curb is since a road curb can be used to roughly gauge flooding level as you drive along Yes sir, I'm crawling around under my Atto to do measurements, making curb level measurements in my Bangkok moobaan, and even a couple curb measurements around a major highway (specifically Phet Kasem Road/Highway #4).
Here's what I found out/measured:
Some Atto Measurements made in my carport:
- Atto ground clearance: 175mm as advertised (lowest point of something under the car which is a shield under the drive motor.
- Atto traction battery ground clearance: 200mm (lowest point/bottom of the traction battery)
- Atto traction battery point where bottom aluminum cover connects/seals together with its top fiber cover: 230mm
- Atto High & Low Voltage connectors/cables which connect to the traction battery: 250mm (bottom point of connectors where water would first touch)
- Atto middle of wheel height: 330mm
Some typical road curb heights:
- In my Bangkok moobaan: varies from 165 to 185mm...average 175mm.
- Along Phet Kasem/#4 Highway in Nakorn Pathom: 150 to 200mm...but mostly 200mm. But I did come across a few kilometers on the drive back from the MIL's house where there were some curbs I estimated to be around 300mm (far from being a typical height)...but the great majority of the highway curb level was approx 200mm.
So, if a person gets caught in a downpour/flooding and using a soi curb as reference to gauge water depth maybe using 200mm is a good rule of thumb and generally on the conservative side (i.e., probably a little bit of an overestimate since a lot of road curb will be lower at around 150mm).
So, since the Atto traction battery bottom aluminum cover screws together with the fiber top cover is approx 230mm from ground level this is where there would be a "remote" chance of water leaking in. I say "remote" because a thick rubber seal with about a million screws is used to seal the two covers together) then a 230mm or more water depth should be avoided. And the HV and LV connectors/cables are approx another 20mm higher before water would just start touch the bottom of the connectors which would be around 250mm ground clearance. Now these connectors/cables will surely be IP67 types which can keep water out if submerged for short periods as shown in previous post snapshot IP ratings.
OK, where does 230 and 250mm reach on an Atto if just looking at the car....see below snaphots. Now before you look you will notice 230 and 250mm points are below the 330mm mid tire point where BYD says is the high water limit to avoid according to the Atto manual in my above post. I expect they say mid-tire (330mm) since when wading/moving thru water the front underside of the car is pushing/plowing water away from the front of the traction battery....basically just "splashing" of water onto IP67 connectors/seals. Moving thru high water is less likely to cause the car to stall than if having to come to a stop which allows the water to level out under the car....that is, reach a higher point/actually submerge some connectors for a significant length of time...if submerged then the likelihood of a leak increases.
1st snapshot: 230mm is where traction battery two halves are sealed together. Notice it right at the bottom of the car sides....allows an easily visual reference.
2nd Snapshot: 330mm...half way up wheel. 250mm is where water would just begin to touch bottom of High and Low Voltage connectors...and 230mm is where the battery covers seal together...same point as shown in 1st snapshot.
Da end. Cheers.
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2 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:
There is one thing I’m rather curious about. Say you own an electrical appliance. Could be a fan, a microwave, a mobile phone or a golf buggy. Would you leave it in water at a depth that might cover the electronic components in said appliance? And if you do, would you be surprised if said appliance stops working?
Even if it wasn’t an electrical appliance, like say, a book. Would you leave your book in a pool of water and then be surprised that the pages might fall out?
I would indeed like to have seen the water around the Seal before the owner moved it to higher ground, took pictures, and posted them. The owner probably parks it in a location convenient/close to his home/business....maybe can't park in a carport at his home/townhouse/etc....only soi parking....but I'm guessing.
In Bangkok and many locations in Thailand (in the city or rural areas) when it rains the water level on some roads can rise quickly...easily rise to the top (or above) curb level. I've personally seen in many, many times....no need for pictures, TV news reports, etc. A curb is typically around 6 inches/150mm in height.
Heck, here in my own western Bangkok gated moobaan when it rains hard some of the moobaan "main" sois which have curbs around 150mm in height completely fill-up or even overflow a little. This height of water can hang around for maybe an hour until the pumps in the moobaan drain off the main sois. But if you are driving to/from your home within the moobaan when this rain happens you just slush thru the water...fortunately the "side" sois the houses are on don't flood as they are about a 250mm above the main sois....but to get to your side soi you first need to drive on the main sois which flood sometimes.
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The posted pictures seem to be those of when the owner moved the car to a higher location (i.e.,a low level of flooding). The posted pictures could mislead people into thinking a low water level shown in the pictures damaged the battery.
I wonder how deep the water level was where the car actually got flooded....that is, the location "before" the owner moved the car higher ground. Was it half way up the wheels, etc?
Heck, I've drove thru water as deep as shown in the pictures for around a kilometer on Rama II Road (part under construction) in Samut Sakhom province last November. It was not planned....rain storm came quickly...road construction had clogged-up the road drainage pipes...nowhere to get off the multilane highway....the road turned into a traffic jam of thousands of cars slowing moving thru water approx 150mm deep for around a kilometer. The ground clearage of an Atto 3 is 175mm compared to a 145mm for a Seal.
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Although as you noted above that LLC distributions can be classified as "ordinary, passive, or other income" it appears BOI has decided your particular LLC distributions fall in the ordinary/salary income bucket. Guess it all depends on the details of the LLC distribution since there are different types of LLC distributions.
You might want to see if you can find any IRS language/rules that classify your particular LLC distributions as passive income and then go back to BOI with a memo explaining such and ask for reconsideration.
https://carta.com/learn/startups/private-companies/llc/distributions/
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8 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:
True, but in April that only added 81 vehicles to the EV registrations tally.
I don't think even a Florida style re-count will change that we have a y-o-y drop in May, but more numbers are always welcome and appreciated.
Yea...please continue your spreadsheet....while the numbers are not exact since it's very, very hard to get exact numbers due to how media reports the numbers and how DLT provides public data, your numbers are definitely well inside the ballpark....well inside the infield. Thanks.
Personally, I don't expect to see vehicle sales, ICE or EV, start to pickup until Oct-Dec. 2024 is going to be a sluggish year. And I just notice that Suzuki announced today they are closing their auto factory in Thailand in 2025 partly due to sluggish Thailand sales.
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4 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:
Last month our northern wine conneciour was all dressed 👗 up and ready to go when he was denied entry at the last step to the Pearly Gate, thanks to 266 EV buyers.
Back on green pasture, in the claim that we will never see 3 consecutive months of falling EV sales, the clock ⏰️ is again ticking down with May's y-o-y drop in registrations.
Keep in mind the May 2024 "registrations" number is pure RY1 per DLT stats....as was the Apr 2024 data was pure RY1. News media often report more than RY1 like in Apr 2024 where you have 4088 which includes some other categories other than RY1....what low number other categories I couldn't say because it's too much of pain/head-scratcher trying to figure what other categories some news reports use.
And when it comes to "sales" data that some websites report (like autolife) god knows how they collect that sales data...best case it's ballpark data which excludes whether the sale finally reached the registration stage or died when the finance company say No to the applicant.
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1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:
To judge it, we need to see how it compares to ICE. Without that comparative, we could simply be looking at customer confidence dented in making big decisions etc etc
RY1 Private Car for Not More Than 7 People total for May was 45,101 for all types of vehicles (i.e., petrol, diesel, BEV, CNG, etc). 5,274 of the 45,101 was BEV which works out to 11.7% of total.
Compared to RY1 data for Apr total there was 38,022 of which 4007 were BEV which works out to 10.5%.
This is just RY1 data. News reports usually throw in a few other categories which have low numbers but the news article all to often fail to say what other categories than RY1 they counted.
Sales/registrations are still sluggish...higher debt, tougher finance requirements, etc.
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4 hours ago, Dakhar said:
Has anyone have the same situation as mine?
USA citizen
qualifies for LTR (insurance/income/age etc)
Except for one issue:
I am a LLC member, income is considered "distributions" not "dividends."
Is this grounds for disqualification?
My tax forms state my distributions are not passive.
For a LTR Pensioner visa I expect it would be considered unearned/passive income which is fine; it just can not be earned income such as salary/wages.
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10 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:My BYD app has been updated to a new version 2.1.0 from 2.0.8 but I don’t see that anything has changed, certainly haven’t got the vehicle location update.
EDIT: when charging the car the picture is now of a Seal ( before was an Atto 3 ) wonder if that was the version update ?
For Android the latest version is 2.1.2 released 4 Jun 2024. I have it installed and don't see in changes. Expect just some minor tweaks/bug fixes occurred (a.k.a., optimizations)...see below snapshots from Google Play.
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10 hours ago, Galong said:
@Pib Did login.gov accept a Thai address? From what I've read it requires a US address and telephone, that's why I opted for ID.me, which was dead easy to setup.
I have Google Authenticator on my Thai phone. I'll keep this in mind if somehow ID.me goes on the blink.If clicking on the link to Login.gov that SSA displays right at the tail end of your SSA acct login using the SSA User ID login method (the method going away in a few months) that SSA link to Login.gov will have some underlying/hidden/special activation coding that does not require a full-brown Login.gov identity verification/registration.
You will only need to create the bare bones Login.gov acct consisting of your Email address, a PW you will create, and selection of a method to accomplish two factor authorization (2FA) such as using your phone number, Authentication app such as Google Authenticator or MS Authenticator (whatever authenticator you may want to use), or a couple other 2FA options.... and then closely following the additional instructions where Login.gov will validate your email address and phone number if using the phone number method for two factor authorization.
No address of any kind required....repeat, no address of any kind required. You might want to call this a special setup between SSA and Login.gov that will allow people to login to their SSA acct via the Login.gov portal without setting up a full-blown Login.gov acct where Login.gov goes thru a complete identity verification (i.e., ID, address, phone number, etc...etc).
JUST BE SURE TO GO TO THE LOGIN.GOV SITE VIA THE LINK THAT WILL APPEAR AT THE VERY END OF YOUR CURRENT SSA LOGIN....THAT LINK HAS SPECIAL/HIDDEN CODING (HAS AN UNDERLYING ACTIVATION CODE) THAT BASICALLY TELLS LOGIN.GOV TO CREATE A BAREBONES LOGIN.GOV ACCT MINUS ALL THE NORMAL IDENTIFY VERIFICATION SINCE SSA PREVIOUSLY DID AN IDENTIFY VERIFICATION WHEN YOU FIRST OPENED YOUR SSA ACCT YEARS AGO.
What I recommend is you do a login to your SSA acct using the SSA User ID method that going away....and closely follow the instructions at the tail end of the successful login where SSA give that notice of the SSA User ID method going away in a few months and they recommend you setup a Login.gov login method right now....click on the link that will take you to Login.gov. Use your Google Authenticator as the chosen 2FA method. Logging onto SSA this way will "not" affect your ability to also login via ID.me; it will just create another way of you to login onto your SSA online acct via the Login.gov.
And I can't be sure now but I think that SSA notice "implied" to at least me that setting up a SSA login via/thru Login.gov is a limited time offer that will disappear once SSA kills-off the SSA User ID login method in a few months. After that kill-off the special/easy way to create a basic Login.gov for SSA logon purposes will disappear and then a person would need to create a Login.gov acct the normal way...the full blown identity verification way below they could use Login.gov to log onto their SSA acct...or create a new SSA acct.
Oh yea, for folks who do not have any SSA online acct but want to open one they would need to first do a full-blown Login.gov or ID.Me identify verification before they could create a SSA online acct with whatever address on Earth they use...foreign or U.S.
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Both the wife and I have SSA online accts. I also have an ID.me acct which I got to access my IRS acct but the wife does not have an ID.me or Login.gov acct. I was dreading the possibility of trying to walk her thru the ID.me verification process which for me around two years ago also required a video interview and back then I was in the queue for a video interview for around 4 hours...this was years ago. But it all worked out and I got my ID.Me verification.
Although I did logon once to my SSA acct via ID.me after that I continued to logon to my SSA acct via the SSA User ID method since that's what the SSA website recommends...and the wife used the same SSA User ID method since she didn't have a login.gov or ID.me acct.
But today when logging on to our SSA accts we the see the notice during the tail-end of the logon process that the SSA User ID is going away in a few months with the recommendation to create a login.gov or ID.me acct.
Now I was hoping (praying) a person would not have to go thru the normal/standard "login.gov" acct creation and full-blown identity verification process, but a much shorter process that includes a quickie/hidden activation process that is already setup by the SSA with login.gov. That is, follow the SSA instruction/links for setting up a login.gov acct for SSA acct login purposes and other than having to create a basic login.gov acct (i.e., a login.gov user id and password plus a security code verification method such as Authenticator App, acceptable mobile number, etc.) that this quickly/special activation process would allow login to your SSA acct thru the login.gov portal without going thru a full-blown login.gov identity verification process. And my pray was answered....see below.
You can create a login.gov acct for the purpose of logging into your SSA online acct by following the SSA instructions. Right at the tail-end of your SSA acct logon via the SSA User ID method you will get the notice about the logon method change to requiring login.gov or ID.me. At that point click the create login.gov icon which will take you to login.gov where you create a login.gov acct---all you need to create at this point is al login.gov User ID (i.e., you email address), password and setup a security code method (e.g., authenticator app, mobile number, etc). For the wife login.gov would not accept the wife's Google Voice number or her DTAC mobile number---login.gov said both were VOIP numbers which are not accepted. Now her DTAC number is definitely a mobile number but for whatever reason login.gov thinks it's a VOIP number. So, instead she setup the Authenticator app method (see it up on Microsoft Authenticator and Google Authenticator)....this made login.gov happy. After a few more clicks she was taken to her SSA acct....was logged right in.
NOW IT'S IMPORTANT YOU "FOLLOW THE PROVIDED SSA LINKS" TO CREATE A LOGIN.GOV ACCT as this will utilize a special login.gov activation/verification process which will allow you to login to your SSA acct without going thru a full-blown identity verification process with login.gov. This is the same way the Veteran's Administration (VA) set things up when several years ago they decided to kill-off their login User IDs and switch to login.gov. Basically, the SSA and login.gov have setup a special process that allows you to create a login.gov acct for SSA acct logon purposes which utilizes the identify verification that SSA already did on you years back when you first got your SSA online acct.
Now if you don't follow the SSA links that take your to login.gov during that initial login.gov acct creation and instead your just manually open another browser to go to login.gov to create a login.gov acct then the special/quickly login.gov acct creation just for SSA acct access will not workout/would be bypassed....instead, login.gov will want you to do a full-blown identity verification.
So, right at the tail-in of your SSA acct logon when presented with the notice and chance to create a login.gov acct, follow/click on the SSA link which will take you to the login.gov site. Create a login.gov user id, pw, and security code receipt method and in a few more clicks you will be into your SSA online acct via the login.gov portal. Then after you log off try logging onto your SSA acct again BUT THIS TIME click the login.gov link, log into login.gov and you are then automatically taken into your SSA online acct.
If you don't have a mobile number that login.gov will accept then setup the Authenticator method....and also recommend you setup a 2nd method of getting the 10 or so Backup Codes which are one time use codes. Not having an acceptable mobile number does NOT prevent a person from creating a login.gov acct for the purpose of logging onto their SSA online acct as long as the person follows the SSA instructions/links in initially creating the login.gov acct.
Both the wife and I setup login.gov acct this evening by following those SSA instructions/links...only took a few minutes. Gosh, I was so happy SSA has setup a special transition method to create a login.gov acct for SSA acct logon purposes.
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1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:
Back to EVs in Thailand, I just saw my first BYD Seal U on the road. Looked pretty nice, it was all black and very shiny.
Does anyone know the spec or how much they cost? BYD's Thai website is pretty poor, it only has the Atto 3 on there.
https://www.byd.com/en-thYou sure you didn't see a 2024 "black" Atto 3? For 2024 they dropped the red color and replaced it with black. I've seen several black Atto 3's on the roads.
Don't use above website...it hasn't been update for years. Use below which is the website of the sole/official distributor of BYD vehicles in Thailand....it's where the BYD dealerships get all of their BYD cars. And I didn't think the BYD Seal U had been released yet in Thailand....it's not shown as an available model at below website.
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Whoops... I made a typo above....meant to say (i.e., not salary/wages income).
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3 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:As an aside, it seems Capital Gains has been removed from the example of Unearned/Passive Income & a quick search of the pdf shows the word Capital doesn't appear anywhere.
But their main page still lists capital gains as being acceptable. I expect capital gains falls under the category of "....other types of passive income..." talked in the required docs. Just gotta be "unearned/passive" income (i.e., now salary/wages income).
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Yes, one
2 hours ago, frankstraube said:Not sure where above snapshot is from....possibly from older BOI LTR required docs information.
For a LTR Pension visa only one year of tax returns "OR" at time of application. See below BOI weblink/snapshot....it's from the BOI LTR website as of 5 June 2024/today under the Required Docs icon/sub-link.
Even if your most recent tax return shows you under the required income requirement if recent events such as a Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA) which is common with a lot of retirement pensions now puts you over the requirement income level then then documents showing your new income amount such as pension/annuity monthly statement, benefit letter, etc., will provide the necessary proof.
Now BOI will probably still want to see your most recent tax return which like if you were submitting an application today/5 June would be for the tax year of Jan-Dec 2023 but even if the amount on the tax return is below the required income amount as long as the "current" documents from your pension/annuity payor show you the current amount has increased like due to COLA then that will satisfy BOI--I was in that exact situation for my LTR application in late 2022 and my LTR-P was approved.
Tax returns merely serve as secondary proof/support of your income in some situations especially when they do not yet show income increases like from COLA of a current pension, just starting a new pension, just starting a Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) from a 401K/IRA type saving plan, etc. This is when documents/benefit letters/month statement/etc., from the pension/annuity paying agent become the primary proof.
https://ltr.boi.go.th/documents/Required-docs-Wealthy-Pensioners-14-05-2024.pdf
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18 minutes ago, oldcpu said:
Further - I want to make the point again. When does one pay tax? If one brings money into the country in year 2025, one does NOT pay tax on such in the same year ( 2025 ) when it was brought into Thailand, unless there is a with holding tax. There has been NO announcements of holding tax. So logically, one submits their tax return in year 2026 (for the 2025 money brought into Thailand), at that point in time, the money brought into the country in year 2025 was the PREVIOUS year.
Yeap...that's my understanding also. When it comes to filing a tax return, say this coming Jan - Mar 2025 (which will be the "current" tax year once 2025 get here) you will be filing that return for the "previous" tax year which would be for Jan-Dec 2024. So, any funds transferred in 2024 would be tax free on your tax return you file Jan-Mar 2025.
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3 hours ago, JohnnyBD said:I agree, that would be the simplest way... Maybe that is what RD 743 was meant to do, since it states the following:
"derived in the previous tax year from an employment, or from business carried on abroad, or from a property situated abroad, and brought into Thailand".
But RD743 came out a year or so "before" the recent tax change.
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26 minutes ago, Misty said:
Today at Chamchuri I asked if they can mail the certificate and was told no, unfortunately at this location you can only pay cash Bt500 and receive on the same day, within an hour.
My experience was very much like yours, Pib - super easy. I brought a number of documents just in case, but in the end they only wanted the application, copies of my passport, LTR visa, and arrival stamp, and the TM30. I paid the Bt500 at Counter 8, submitted the documents at Counter 10, and was told to come back in an hour. I got a coffee downstairs and returned a little early. The certificate was ready about 5 min early. It was a busy day maybe ahead of the long weekend,
Thanks Misty. As I mentioned earlier my memory was about "90%" that Chamchuri only issued residence certificate by paying Bt500 and waiting an hour or so to get it. Can't have it mailed to you at a lower cost like some immigration offices will do such as CW will do. With your confirmation I can now upgrade my memory of the situation from 90% to 100%. 😉
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14 hours ago, Barry13 said:
To Mike Lister,
I tried to use my ATM Bangkok Bank card at 4 different BB machine locations including at the Bangkok Bank with a Bangkok Bank service person watching and witnessed that it would not work. I attempted to withdawal 5000 baht. I also tried to pay a phone bill using the mobile app and online, both would not work. No transfers would work. I receive a direct deposits from the USA Social Security.
To summerize: Bangkok Bank ATM machines, mobile app and online will not allow me to withdawal or transfer any amount. I can only view my account and balance using the app and online.
Note; View gamb00ler's reply
Two questions: 1) How long have you had this account? 2) Have you ever been able to use your debit card and/or mbanking/ibanking app to transfer money "out of" this acct?
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This Youtube video talks the new BYD spare parts warehouse/center in the Bangkok area.
Spare parts availability should definitely be a consideration in what vehicle you buy as all vehicles eventually needs spare parts under or out of warranty, get into accidents, etc. At around 6:25 min into this 10 minute video they also briefly show the traction battery room and the guy says they have 30 traction batteries in the room....you will see the large wooden crates containing the traction batteries. Yeap...readily available spare parts within country is a good thing.
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Thai immigration online 90 day reporting system
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
Posted · Edited by Pib
90 day site working again...with captcha....I logged in twice...guess they got it fixed.