bread

@ All thanks for the replies

So ( sorry if I am being stupid here) ....

I will be able to pay the deposit on my Visa Debit card ( as long as there is the right balance)?

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In turn if I can I think I may stick 50000 baht and the rental cost in one account with no more money in it then at least there is no more to get nicked.

I know this is a bit stupid but I dont use a credit card, I never have I all ways pay as I go with every thing (well but the morgage)

Thanks

Bread

@ Sezze

Thanks for the quick reply.

I all so would have thought this to be the case both budget and enterprise rentals in the UK take a Visa debit with no problems.

The reason I thought is that in the Terms and Con' for the Thai rental companys they say it has to be credit card.

I did not want to pay online in the UK and the get there and find out they did not take it.

Maybe if any one has experiance renting there I dont know........

Thanks all any help much thanks.

Bread

Ps all so the UK takes £100 deposit thailand 40,000baht which is a fair bit.

Hi,

I wonder if any one could advise.

I am in Thailand next week and wanted to rent a car in bangkok for 10 days.

As I was looking I find that most companys (if not all) need a credit card for the deposit.

Some thing I dont use or own I have a Visa debit card.

I have rented in the UK and this has never been a problem so it had not crossed my mind.

I have tried to ask a couple of the Thai companys but I am not sure if they understand this question and I dont seem to get any definative answer.

Does any one know if they will just take a Visa debit or of any companys that do.

It is too late now for me to get the bank to issue a credit card.....

Thanks

Bread

Well quick update I guess,

The last two days have been ok I have actually spoken too her on an adult level and discussed about my daughters future and in turn them both returning to the UK in May as previously arranged.

I feel some what that this is the centre of the hurricane and she I am sure will flair up again in a day or two as I have already said I am not sending any more money.

I still don’t know which is the best way round this, but there is also nearly four weeks until she returns, so I guess any thing may well happen or in turn be said.

I at this moment in time am not sure that I myself could look after my daughter (with her best interests at heart) on a full time 100% custody basis, as I my self work a six day week and some fairly unsociable hours and I feel this would be unfair on her to be in full time child care.

I must say thanks to every one that has been so supportive as it does help knowing that I am not the only person going through this.

Bread

Indeed, I will leave it for a while before I talk to her again. I think for my own sense of well being will dictate that I need to send something and in turn I do want to have access to my daughter and to get in place if she can come and live with me here.

I think as I said the next step may be to contact my wife through the lawyers though I am still underside about that.

Bread

Right thanks mario that is brilliant news I am really pleased about that I was starting to think that could turn into a bit of a nightmare.

Well I rang my wife this morning thinking that after a few days she might have something to say bearing in mind that we are still married I have not started devoice proceedings and to be fair not harked on about it for a while.

Well she informed that she now had 1000baht left out of the £450 that I gave at Heathrow on Tuesday so I think she got 48 to the pound on Wednesday so she has (in her opinion) managed to spend about 20k in 5 days quite good going when her parents reside in Nangrong.

I laughed because I could see this coming and as expected she proceeded to tell me to start with "when you give money to your daughter", I replied with I'm not going to and as expected the result was "she no have food she eat rice".

Well I apologised and said sorry but I don't have/don't want to send any more money and she would have to get by (I did want to inform her that maybe giving it all away was a little naive but I thought better of it) then came the talking to my daughter "daddy no good he no give you money you no eat". To which I wondered why I was even entertaining the idea that she should come back here and I should continue "sponsoring" her family for the rest of my life.

The really sad thing is that I only really want my daughter to have the best possible life and I really don't believe that she will get the Weston education eg. being thought to think for herself or general upbringing that she would get here. And I don't think any money that I ever gave to her mother if she stays with her she will ever see.

I think I need to get some things written down for her eg. what she is entitled to e.t.c as she seems to think that I will be obligated to pay for her for ever and not just for my daughter. And it may allow her to see that I am serious and that I will go through the legal channels in order to insure that my daughter is ok. Can any one recommend some one to draft something I was thinking Issan lawyers but I really just need a letter written out outlining the reasons behind what I have already discussed with her?

bread

You see I am not sure they do know or have the foresight to see what they are doing is wrong.

I wonder after telling my wife repeatedly that her behaviour is inconsiderate and selfish and that if she still does the same things again and again I will leave her she still does it.

I think stupidity is defined from not learning from ones actions and this seems to be the case.

bread

I can see your plight the same as I get its the lies that have no foundation or substance that I can't stand c411um.

I don't understand why they have to do it.

Along the lines of the phone story I have had broken electronic dictionaries, broken phones, broken computers all of which on further inspection work. I have had sick Children, sick parents, sick sister stories at least once a month so much so I can already predict the out come of some stories before they all ready get told eg. the phone call from Thailand the tears/not wanting to talk "whats wrong darling" I would say and then inevitably out would come the bull sh*t.

Also all I get is "when I go all you want is to look hoy look noum" "why you butterfly" e.t.c

c411um you know why I think you are a good bloke is Even now you are trying to help her with the DVD's just shows why f****ing bother it really makes my blood boil.

bread

Hello,

Thanks for the replies they are appreciated.

Well after informing my wife that I at this point I am not going to add any more money to her "holiday fund" we have not spoken in two days, I have the standard not picking up the phone when I call and I really only want to hear my daughter.

I have to ask my self why is she so dam childish I know we are all a product of our own environment but and I know this is my opinion but I really haven't done any thing bar try and support and nurture all the things in the last two years that she has wanted.

I know I am not going to get it it but a little respect would be nice !

I am getting the copy I have of the Thai birth certificate sent to me (in storage) and I will be able to make sure I am on that, if not I guess I will have to go about seeing if I can get placed on the Thai one though if any one does know whether the English Birth Certificate would apply to Thailand that would be great ?

Ta Bread

Well things are still bad my wife who flew to Thailand on Tuesday last week with £500 about 20,000 baht and is already saying that she has nearly run out of money.

She also keeps using the line "your daughter will only eat rice if i no have money", I cant stand the continual emotional blackmail it does my head in.

I have only spoken twice since she has been there because now as I have decided it has to be time to take a stand against all of this and it hurts alot because of my daughter and as per last time my wife quite obviously has parmed her off to her family as I have not yet heard her there.

I keep asking my self why does she keep lying to me. I think the strange thing is that I don't feel as emotional about it this time round, as in the felling of dread when you normally break up with some one doesn't seem there which I felt last time she went and even then I was not sure if I wanted her to come back. More a slight anger that she seems to think that I am going to allow this to happen again and again.

I was reading that one should not negotiate with terrorists' and I think this kinda applies.

The scary thing is when I think back over the last two years was she really ever in love me or have I always been the Falang the pays the bills.

Also and I don't know if this applies with a lot of Thai women but even now all I get is accused of cheating on her "who you with" "you want go pub look pussy" are the general well structured well grounded one liners that have been thrown out me every week for the last two years.

It feels good to get his of my chest hope im not boring any one.

Bread

Reading this through some of the statements seem so true to my own relationship its scary.

What your doing c411um is great and I am following this through very closely.

I am impressed that the Thai courts don't take as long as I thought that they could and it seems that they will go in your favour which is great.

The thing that I hate more than any thing is the thought of my daughter going and ending up living with her grandparents and getting the "rural Thai education".While her mother ends up drinking her self silly in Phuket.

Ps. I did chuckle with the "brassing her self off" I have not heard any one use the word brass for a while.

Best of luck Bread

Thank you Boo,

That was some of the information I wanted if any one else knows any more it would be greatfully recived. Trying to keep things civil is allways an issue when one party doesent want to discuss any thing !

thanks

Bread

SB "As my previous Thai lady told me, once child in Thailand my family will hide, nobody ever find"

I agree though I would hope that a monthly income may help that.

Bread

Thanks for the quick response.

So about 3100 baht is the court costing would 10000baht a month seem a fair Issan cost?

We are not devoiced and my wife is still returning at this moment in time I am just pre-empting making some decisions with where I stand.

Also to be fair it is not very plausible never allowing my wife to return to Thailand and if she really wanted to she could any way, I am sure leave the UK with my daughter.

Bread

I agree much better to have the child in Australia and let her go through the courts (though I seem to remember reading she will get legal aid in Australia I think)

mizzi39;"Now about her drinking, VIOLENCE and laziness????? Four years of a "living nightmare"? She is with another man and can "afford" to go off to Macau, but yet is paid 10000 baht per month"

the OP seems to be indicating that she was paid 10000baht a month as child welfare which I thought was a relatively common amount (though I my self am trying to clarify that).

bread

I feel sorry for you son I am in the same situation

"We have had problems with her drinking,violence,laziness and so on and always thought that she was only interested in the money she percieved to be in abundant supply in Australia."

I think this is the same with so many people and you are right it is very common.

In my opinon you are in a good situation when it comes to allready having the child in Australia.

When In thailand there will not be a lot she can do. The Hague convention will not stand.

Hi every one,

I was just after some advice,

I am a UK national married to a Thai national who I have a twenty month old daughter with.

We where married in England and my daughter was born here.

My daughter holds a UK passport and a Thai passport which we got through the London Thai Embassy.

I am named on the UK birth certificate as her father (I am not sure if I am named/or had to get a Thai birth certificate for her Thai passport.

My Wife has returned to Thailand with my daughter for a break as we have had to many problems. My questions are;

• When we got married in the UK is this recognised under Thai law?
  
• Would it be normal when we got my daughter a Thai passport to have a Thai birth certificate made and would I have been named?
  
• My wife is from Issan what we be normal child costs associated with child care e.g. 5000baht-10000baht a month?
  
• What is the chance of me getting some form of custodial rights through the Thai courts though I do not live in Thailand?
  
• What would people suggest is the best form of action do most people go straight to the lawyers or first try to negotiate?
  

Thanks in advance

Bread

Thanks again, All

Torrent; that was what I don’t want, the ability for a family member to start calling out to her third aunt twice removed for eight hours with me footing the bill.

A broadband only line would be great (admittedly in the UK any broadband line normally takes a phone) so I shall look into that.

I am over in Thailand soon and I shall have to look at setting up a bank account so I can pay direct debits.

Thanks a lot Bread.

Thank you all for your very quick response, I am grateful

Daniel so am I right in saying that I can pay for Internet with no telephone?

Also do you pay for it with a Direct Debit from a Thai bank account?

Thanks Bread

TOT is definitely up the road 15km as we have it there. All the usual xxxxxcyber packages available. Best cyber is too slow really for Skype video and you'd do better to get better than that. Get as much up speed as you can, the greater problem is with that though best is not enough day by day to stop frozen page video.

I've had telephone lines put in in my name in properties I didn't own but it is more usual to put the line in the name of the person whose name is on the tabien bahn for houses. Even if in your name, and you turn it off (and pay the Bt107 a month), the dumbos in TOT will turn it back on if they ask for it. I don't think you can ask them to stop all chargeable calls though. A key locked phone is no deterrent.

Is there a way around it ? Sure. Buy a western DECT cordless phone which you can lock with a security code or where you have to put in a prefix to dial out. However, if mama and papa cannot handle that level of mystification, you're just about out of options unless TOT or another can actually block all outgoing calls. With line rental at Bt100 or so a month, where is the incentive for them to do that ?

Maybe the best thing is pay as you go mobile access then, I wonder if it will be quick enough or even if you can get it ?

Its such a nuisance especially as Im not there for a while.

ta Bread

Looking at it there seems to be two options 3G and cat (not sure if thats right) any ideas any one please.

Bread

My wife and daughter will soon be returning to Nangrong In order to keep in contact I would like to pay for Internet could someone tell me

1. Can i get mobile internet would this be any good for skype/messanger webcam e.t.c

2. Can i get fixed telephone/broadband

3. What would be the costs involved

I dont want to pay for a telephone line that can make out going calls as this will get abused so any ideas would be apreseated

thanks very much Bread.

ok, i understand i think I shall have talk to the lawyers shame that it has come to this but it has.

I wonder if it would be better to allow my wife to return with nothing set up as I here that the law is slightly more in favor in thailand towards men is this true ?

any way thanks bread

Hi i am sorry if this is in the wrong place but i was not sure where out to post.

I am married to a Thai living in the UK.

We have been married for 14ish months.

We have a 13ish month old child.

Over the past six months I have increasing problems with my wife to a point where i have decided to see what options are available to me if we divorce.

I want to know what if any thing i can do with relation to the fact that my wife leaves and takes my daughter to thailand ?

Can I have something drafted to allow me access rights?

I would like custody but at the moment 100% would not be possible?

What sort of things should I put in place to make it easier to gain custody in the future?

Unfortunately some of the traits that my wife has now shown I am sure that she will do every thing in her power to use my daughter against me so I need to be sure where I stand

any advice gratefully received

Bread

now speaking the insurance that the school has will applies so i don't think i am going to pay.