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Kerry I think its You that has been indoctrinated, you have spent time around to many woman who are with you for money, like another poster above has said, His Mother said She wished she had worked, it gives the Lady a sense of independence, She does not have to come cap in hand every week for Her allowance/ housekeeping money.

My Wife has independence and I am happy for Her to work, the fact that it helps Us out financially is a bonus, some guys may not feel happy with there partner having choices in life, I think its great. We never have to have those awkward conversations about "can I have some money to send to my parents".

If we were in Thailand I am not sure I would be happy for my wife to work for 10,000 bht a month but Here in Australia She can earn that in a day.

We now live in Australia and play by Australian rules, we both contribute our wages to the household whether it be food or the mortgage, we are in an even relationship, I understand she sends home a little money to support Her parents and the rest is split, I think She takes pride in the fact She contributes to our expenses. She loves the fact She can go to work for 1 day here and earn as much as she did in a month in Thailand.

For those that think you are married to a Thai and should play by there rules, does that mean I have to turn into alcoholic womaniser, slutting around gogo bars every other weekend.

I think my wife is happy to have Me, money or no money.

I called the Consul in Brisbane today on behalf of my wife and was told She had missed the boat, voting closed on the 2nd of June for overseas voters.

It kind of blew me away I had looked on there website a couple of weeks back and no mention of the election or how to vote, could it be they don't want those that have seen a little of the outside World to vote?

Any advice.......

Yeh don't do it.......... partnerships rarely work, one works harder than the other, one puts in more money so thinks He rules the roost, plenty of issues will raise there head and thats just if your partner is honest and enters the deal with good faith, if they are not, then you really are on a hiding to nothing.

My advice comes if the partnership is entered into on level terms, god only knows what it would be like here with so much corruption and so many grey areas in the law.

My Dad gave me good advice ........don't ever get into partnerships in business it has served me well.

"good thrashing served Me well but I grew up in a loving house, so while I got smacked I knew I deserved"

So, did you smack your children?

I'm 58 and many of the boys in my neighborhood were beaten. The result is that 3 of the fathers killed themselves as have 4 of my friends. My oldest brother who suffered the bulk of the abuse suffered a brain injury which left him incapable of managing his life. Another brother is a alcoholic and my youngest brother started sniffing glue at 8 years old and is now a 50 year old street kid. My father told my mother to go make him a sandwich, and then blew his brains all over the wall. All of my childhood friends who suffered abuse have had difficulty managing their lives. It confirms the science.

Actually I'm glad I left the masturbation comment in. It generated the exact kinds of comments that is the basis of the reason that men would rather kill themselves than talk about whatever issues are troubling them.

I am 35 years old, I don't have children...nor do I want any.

You come from a really f**ked up background, I don't and I would take a guess that most don't have that sort of background, so while you feel the need to exercise your demons most of us don't have the demons you have.

Like I said earlier you are judging the world and all men in based on what you have now admited is a really tainted view of the world.

Trisailor, How old are you ?, perhaps I am lucky enough to fit into the age bracket where a good thrashing served Me well but I grew up in a loving house, so while I got smacked I knew I deserved it, my parents stuck together as a result of love and not because they had to as there parents did, pretty much all friends came from traditional households, none of my friends needed to be in a Mens group to sort stuff out, maybe I was lucky I grew up in the scouting movement so I learnt how to deal with who I am and where I fit into the world, I still have life long friends I met in scouts.

You see, while I see plenty of men who are f**ked up..... there are plenty in Thailand, I don't have anything to do with them, why should I ? they are on there own journey and I don't need to get caught up in there crap and be bought down by it. I can't solve the worlds issues, I have enough of my own just getting buy in life, buying a house, running a business and making time for friends and family.

I am glad you started the thread, its at least not a topic about sinsod or how my thai wife stole eevrything I own......but dude you gotta be honest if you had your time over you would leave out the mastabation stuff would'nt you.

Redfx.....no you are the one thats off here, trisailor did go on to call jayjay's father terrible things. I called him an abuser, that's what the law calls him. Thats what the science calls him. Why bother with science if we refuse to consider the information it produces?

This touchy feely crap of dealing with kids is a load of crap, time outs etc don't work, nothing says you messed up like a smack on the bum, its like a reset switch. It wasn't a "smack on the bum" it was a belt. When you hit a child you rob him of value. Where can you go with hitting? If a smack on the bum is appropriate what about when they do something really bad? Hitting a child is always done out of frustration. We should see that frustration as a measure of our own failure to mold our kids by learning how to be better parents. There is nothing touchy feel about being a strong role model.

I was smacked as a child and it didn't effect Me, its just this new age crap.....my daddy hit Me and now I can't control my own aggression, or I drink too much, what a load of crap. My father smacked Me and I have never raised my hands to anyone in aggression ( apart from in a boxing ring and it was sparring ) Not everyone who was hit has problems in life but the science says that the odds are great that it will so why risk it when the kid is born with a desire to please his father. Both of my kids were strong willed which just made me work harder to find appropriate ways of correcting their behavior. Men don't know if they were screwed up but the evidence is crystal clear in the science. Depression and anxiety are widespread and there is a direct link to abuse.

What makes a real Man is a person that is willing to make his own destiny, a person who is willing to accept responsibility when they screw up.

From what I have seen trisailor you don't posses these qualities. Please share with me what qualities you think I don't posses. I am saying the same thing as you are about making your own destiny and accepting responsibility for your actions. I submit that educating ourselves about what it means to be a strong man who commands the respect of our kids so we don't have to hit them should be the goal. Accepting responsibility is exactly what I'm talking about

You are judging Jay jay's father by todays standards yet this happened maybe 30 years ago, need I say more .....its just a crazy thing to say.

The kids of today become the adults of tommorow and I can tell you in Australia we are in a lot of trouble, I am not talking as a 60 year old Male either I am 35 and the kids of today have 0% respect for the law, for others and for themselves.

A good smack would do them good.

As for you ,well you have plenty of issues, I can't help you with them but please don't judge others based on your own twisted view of the World and how We fit into it.

I am replying direct regarding the accusation my father is a bad man for taking to me with a leather belt. This could not be further from the truth. He was and still is, at 73yrs a model father. I would not have changed a moment on this earth with him. I do not have to ask my children what it is like for me to punish them. I have my own methods, and a leather belt ain't used. But that is the point. I still grew up normal. I passed nothing on as you obviously are challenged with. Entirely false statement on your part, actually utter BS. I still know that I deserved the punishment I got. I was a rat-bag. I was naughty and copped the consequences. I did however choose my own path as to how to punish my daughters. Now, if I had a son, there is a good chance a leather belt might have been used. Then again, maybe not. The point is. I am normal and can deal with my own lot, where for some reason you can't. I guess you've just got a couple of screws loose. I suggest tighten them up without pharmaceuticals, therapy or groups. This is a path exercising your own brain training it to become a decision maker with the doubts you live with. I love my dad, you hate yours. I feel sorry for you..

As for suicide, it's for wimps. My best friend did so, and he is an utter f8king asshol_e for doing so. It was real fun dealing with his father, wife, brother, 25 staff and 7 year old daughter. I am happy for as many to go and do this as they want. If they are so stupid to leave responsibility to other that have to sweep up the mess them good riddance. Enough of your statistical crap and I feel sorry I live in a society on the brink. Go jump!

High dose of Paranoia there? I don't think he said your father was a bad man, and that it was a direct accusation. Perhaps your more insecure that you realise, judging from the relatively aggressive tone of your post. It is not fine for adults to hit adults in society, but by your reasoning it is fine for an adult to hit a child, just because they "deserve it" Is that because they are bigger than them, and they can. Whats the intrinsic difference between hitting a child or an adult? Are they not both people? Sounds more like bullying to me. It teaches that hitting someone is a legitimate way to express your opinions/emotions about a problem or matter. And it would seem that you have accepted that trait yourself as you said ,

"Now, if I had a son, there is a good chance a leather belt might have been used...."

There are many other ways to discipline a child, and taking chunks out of them is not one them. Certainly don't think it is a chapter in the "Good Parenting Handbook"...

Redfx.....no you are the one thats off here, trisailor did go on to call jayjay's father terrible things.

This touchy feely crap of dealing with kids is a load of crap, time outs etc don't work, nothing says you messed up like a smak on the bum, its like a reset switch.

I was smacked as a child and it did'nt effect Me, its just this new age crap.....my daddy hit Me and now I can't control my own aggression, or I drink too much, what a load of crap. My father smacked Me and I have never raised my hands to anyone in aggression ( apart from in a boxing ring and it was sparring )

What makes a real Man is a person that is willing to make his own destiny, a person who is willing to accept responsibility when they screw up.

From what I have seen trisailor you don't posses these qualities.

No its not, but making Men that they should feel guilt or shame because they they don't have deep and meaning fulls with there mates is emasculating.....

Women certainly don't find it an acceptable masculine trait.

There is the crux of it.......... why the hell should I give a crap if women do or don't find it masculine, I could not give a hoot what women think of me, or how my brain works when I am under pressure or sad or depressed, so long as I deal with it and I am happy inside in the end, why should I give a crap what anybody thinks.

No its not, but making Men that they should feel guilt or shame because they they don't have deep and meaning fulls with there mates is emasculating.....

Trisailor

"In the mens group we discussed things important to us and it was truly awakening to realize that all of us were dealing with the same issues around being men. We did two retreats each year and hired "professionals" to facilitate workshops on issues like our fathers (a big issue for men) our mothers, masturbation (who'd have thought men would feel guilt over this) "

You post this junk and you are surprised by the responses you get , you need to grow some, get a little independence and learn to not give a crap what other people think about you and your actions....when you have mastered this, you will then be a Man.....no weekend workshop can teach you how to be a Man.

And this post explains why men find it embarassing to talk to each other....

And you are the type that feel the emasculation of men is acceptable, I have seen your posts on here.

I have no trouble expressing how I feel, I spent many years single and am very comfortable in my own skin, but sitting down and chatting about the feelings I have while or after masturbating with a group of friends is just not how I roll and I would be so forward as to say......thats just not normal.

Trisailor

"In the mens group we discussed things important to us and it was truly awakening to realize that all of us were dealing with the same issues around being men. We did two retreats each year and hired "professionals" to facilitate workshops on issues like our fathers (a big issue for men) our mothers, masturbation (who'd have thought men would feel guilt over this) "

You post this junk and you are surprised by the responses you get , you need to grow some, get a little independence and learn to not give a crap what other people think about you and your actions....when you have mastered this, you will then be a Man.....no weekend workshop can teach you how to be a Man.

Dude....there is a forum user IanForbes, I think you and Him would have a great chat.....I am sure He can set you straight.

So if you don't want to go to there place take them to a place you like, we are currently having a nice family holiday in Cha Am, sure beats Rattanaburi.

Everyone wins.

To answer my question for the benefit of others, there is a little change booth on Surawong Rd just on the outside of patpong, he trades out of a small window in a larger shop, he is open late at nights and will be there over Sognkran, He also gave really good rates.

Come on, does anyone here not know what time Silom Rd money change booths are open to at night. I am desperate.

I have always looked when flying in and the airport ones never seemmed that crash hot as they are large bank ones, if I have to take a hit and cash in there so be it, I know the ones on Silom Rd are open late, but have never payed attention to how late, I was kinda hoping someone might have an idea on when they are open to.

Thanks for your suggestion on the Suk ones.

Cheers Rick

Hi we arrive in central Bangkok around 9.30pm on Wednesday the 13th and I forgot about Songkran, anybody got any ideas about where I can change cash late on the night of the 13th or what will be open on the 14th, I know Vasu, Superrich and superrich 1965 all close early and won't be open on the 14th, I need help.... I would prefer not to change at the airport due to crappy rates, anywhere in central Sukhumvit or Silom that will open late at night?

Thanks in advance

Firstly, I think its great you are doing it, but.....

Are the locals willing to spend that much for English lessons.

Secondly most farangs that have issues, have issues relating to living in there partners village, maybe think about the same idea far away from the family.

If he is a mining allied professional, he will come out to Australia and walk into a job with ease, I would think. I only offered other countries as an option as most of you Britts seem to think the country has gone to hell, I on the otherhand think that while Australia is far from perfect it does offer plenty of opportunities.

Food for thought.

Onnut, if both you and your wife are professionals have you looked at opportunities in other countries, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, all these have skilled migrant programs, you may be able to line up work and visa's etc, and the three I have listed all have good public education and economies that are going ok.

Worth a thought maybe.....

Stander, there are a couple of places we have found, but both are a little out of town, I would have though most guys would be happy with 30,000bht for a weeks rental, I can undersatnd not wanting to rent to a bunch of whore mongering golfers, on a weeks trip away from the wives, but a family is a little different.

Cheers

Hi does anyone know of anywhere specific for holiday house rental, we are chasing a large house for the family of 8 people, just one week, hopefully close to Hua Hin town and has a swimming pool. I know its a long shot, but any help will be appreciated.

As xen said, just fly Her with thai airways, She will have plenty of Thai speakers on the plane, get your wife to explain to Her how things work and what the processes will be, more than likely She will befriend a fellow Thai on the plane who will walk her through customs anyway. You said She is coming to Brisbane, make sure she is booked onto a direct flight and not one with a Sydney stop over, that keeps it simple.

Just giving em another opportunity to pilfer or worse still, loose you luggage. No thanks!

I am with you on this too, I will give it a wide berth.