StreetCowboy

Seems like the other end of the Halliwell Jones doesn't have a name...

Anyway, Warrington are attacking the Martin Dawes end, so its probably only academic for this half... (here's hoping...!)

Wolves (that's Wire, for us codgers) penalised and Broncos have a penalty... touch on the Warrington 30 metre line ... " but they've spilled the ball... Chris Bridges snaps up the pieces" Its all gone quiet!

(oh at last, I hear you say)

Let me adjust the wireless (twiddle my knob, as we used to say)

and in that brief interlude of silence Warrington pick up another try

" ... and can he get over himself? Its another try! "...very impressive... and Warrington have really taken the game to the broncos 32 - 10"

... "A magical try at the Halliwell Jones - it started with Ratchford, it finished with Ratchford, tell us about it Mickey Higham"

" well.... " and that's the last word I could make out from Mickey, over the noise of the crowd - Speak Up Man!

I think I might stop looking at the other page... Wales 20, 6 Scotland...

SC

Edit: I should follow my own advice... Wales 27 - 6 Scotland.

If this goes on much longer, the game could be beyond us. Perhaps we might have done better if we'd not had two players in the sin-bin...

My last edits got lost - an end-to-end try started off by Ryan Atkins, finished up by Ryan Atkins...

and Broncos score a second try a minute and a half before half time, to make it 22-10

at the Martin Dawes end of the Halliwell Jones.

Do you really think all that whistling puts the kickers off? Or does it just encourage them?

SC

Edit: I've found a better BBC text commentary page, as well... sounds like Scotland are getting right down Wales' throat to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again...

Wales v Scotland is on my TV Its 3 nil to the sweatys.

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BBC Text seems about ten minutes off the pace...

".. but we can still rise now..."

I might rise shortly to get another tiger out the fridge

and back OT Warrington in for the try "can Bennie Westwood make it even better for Warrington from right out on the touch line ... it looks good, but is it very very good? It is... the flags are up 16-6"

Helpmagoodness! 0 - Warrington London - 4...now 6

with a bit of Fench - I don't think the deputy is Allen Rooney

"Here's Lee Briers, Here's Chris Bridge and it looks from the way the Warrington Lads..'

"da da da da. Da da da da" (that's Tom Hark, by the way)

".. and Warrington have got themselves on the score sheet"

and in the other code, the Wales Scotland game is not on TV, so I'm following that on the BBC Text Commentary, which seems a bit lacking this weekend...

Warrington don't sound like they are putting London to the sword, this afternoon; 25 minutes and its still Warrington 4 - London 6.

The other chap in the commentary box is Mickey Higham. Allan Rooney's there as well, but I think he's frightened to try and take it off Mickey...

" .to Lee Briers, to Grix to Joel Monaghan and he's over - typical Lee Briers"

Stop mumbling Michael, I can't hear a word you're saying (I sound just like my mother, don't I?) Wire 10-4 Broncos

and Warrington seem to be picking up the pace a little "looking for a bit of daylight..."

"Six more tackles to Broncos just in front, so Warrington need to keep that door shut.... over the try line, has he got that ball down, but the referee says he hasn't... Gower puts boot to ball and would you believe it comes off a Warrington player and that's six more to the Broncos... but that's a mistake... ... ... and penalty to Warrington." Tightest defence in the league last season, by the way.

Sreetcowboy'

I'm american and other than 6 nations, rugby is "GREEK" to me. Why does OZ use different scoring, 4 points try, 2 points conversion or penality? Just to be different?

bobo42'

The streaming on NFL Game Pass was far better than I expected due to my remote area and shitty internet connection. If something doesn't change before next season I'll sign up for the full package also.

This is because the 6 Nations is rugby UNION and the Australian coverage you refer to is rugby LEAGUE which is a variant of UNION.

It's great that they are showing rugby on Setanta and I couldn't care less about whether they show American (so called) sport as that serves no real interest to me and many non-Americans that have been brought up on REAL sport, I would imagine!!!!

I think the final day of the Las Vegas Sevens is on tonight live - in the small hours of the morning, actually, which will probably cheer you both up. Its repeated on Monday evening at eleven, I think.

Congratulations to England on another hard-fought win in tough conditions.

I'll probably listen to the Warrington - London game in preference to the commentary from the Millenium Stadium. I think that clashes

I expect you both will be looking ofrward to the 2013 World Cup, in England - USA were the final team to qualify, in Group D with Wales and the Cook Islands

http://rlwc2013.com/

Time now to start lobbying to get coverage on satellite...

SC

EDIT: Americans might find rugby league more entertaining to watch (I think everyone finds it more entertaining at the ground, without a telephoto lens); the game was slightly simplified to make it more entertaining and easier to referee, in order to support a professional game. The Americans simplified it further (emasculating the off-side and obstruction rules, unlimited interchanges, no need to ground a touch-down...) but that simplification actually made it more complicated...

I'm a BIG rugby league fan and avid supporter of Leeds Rhinos (just seen that we lost to Wigan which is rather disappointing)!!! I wish they would show 'Suoer league' in Thailand but fear that will never happen.

Astro Supersports showed the Grand Final last year.

In Dubai I used to get two superleague games a week, plus Challenge Cup from the semi final stage, I think. Plus several NRL games. Astro show about two, plus State of Origin and Four Nations... I'm not sure if True carry any of that. I'm hoping for better coverage of this world cup than last. I ended up sat in the Penalty Spot on Sukhumvit Road following the Fiji Scotland game on the lastest scores from the BBC...

SC

It's not a question of where you live but how you behave in a relationship.

Would you like to buy a flat in the East End of Glasgow?

You wouldn't do it in your own country if you come from a civilized part of the world, so why doing it here ?

Even with your hand in front it's so low so to do that, exactly as if I put my finger in my axx....

Do you agree ?

No and what do you want to provoke with this one?

You know, I don't think it is the same as putting one's finger up one's arse. I don't see any similarities at all.

I'm as equally likely to use a tooth pick wherever I am, I think... maybe more likely if I'm somewhere where they are put on the table... thouggh personally I prefer to use my tongue to dislodge food particles. But for those stubborn cricket wings...

SC

Sreetcowboy'

I'm american and other than 6 nations, rugby is "GREEK" to me. Why does OZ use different scoring, 4 points try, 2 points conversion or penality? Just to be different?

bobo42'

The streaming on NFL Game Pass was far better than I expected due to my remote area and shitty internet connection. If something doesn't change before next season I'll sign up for the full package also.

This is because the 6 Nations is rugby UNION and the Australian coverage you refer to is rugby LEAGUE which is a variant of UNION.

It's great that they are showing rugby on Setanta and I couldn't care less about whether they show American (so called) sport as that serves no real interest to me and many non-Americans that have been brought up on REAL sport, I would imagine!!!!

I think the final day of the Las Vegas Sevens is on tonight live - in the small hours of the morning, actually, which will probably cheer you both up. Its repeated on Monday evening at eleven, I think.

Congratulations to England on another hard-fought win in tough conditions.

I'll probably listen to the Warrington - London game in preference to the commentary from the Millenium Stadium. I think that clashes

I expect you both will be looking ofrward to the 2013 World Cup, in England - USA were the final team to qualify, in Group D with Wales and the Cook Islands

http://rlwc2013.com/

Time now to start lobbying to get coverage on satellite...

SC

EDIT: Americans might find rugby league more entertaining to watch (I think everyone finds it more entertaining at the ground, without a telephoto lens); the game was slightly simplified to make it more entertaining and easier to referee, in order to support a professional game. The Americans simplified it further (emasculating the off-side and obstruction rules, unlimited interchanges, no need to ground a touch-down...) but that simplification actually made it more complicated...

I don't think it's fair to take a thai girl out of Thailand. As someone said they love their country, their food and music. They love to chat with their friends and of course their number one priority FAMILY. It must be hell for them to go to another country, have no friends, can not speak the language well, no TV, and maybe a cold climate (like Scotland). I think it's just asking for trouble to take them abroad.

Excuse me, we Scots have ways of keeping ladies warm.

Kilts, whisky and Haggis?

You're just trying to make me homesick...

I see nothing wrong with using a toothpick, however my Thai partner gets really 'cranky' if i don't do as Thais do and cover my mouth.

But what i really hate and find revolting is the filthy habit, mainly perpetrated by young Thai girls , of constantly shoving a menthol type inhaler up their nostrils, even when serving customers. Some girls have one of these things constantly in their hand.........YUK

Some people find lighting one's farts offensive, but that is because they have no sense of humour

SC

I find it so ugly that sometimes I look away, and don't stare.

Lets face it, if we were to apply the principles the OP proposes, most of us would never be let out the house...

SC

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I would say that he is very tightly connected with the bar, however he is the only one who tell us what actual connection he has with all the parties. From the information he is providing I would say smedly is the private owner of the bar. Not saying much just keeping people dangling, would make a very good politician.

He is probably one of the farangs the female bar owner took to the hospital.

I thought he was one of the moto-taxis.

How about if I'm retired and have more money than the average Thai will earn in 200 years?

I really don't care what Thai people think of me. I guess if I wanted to impress them, I'd drive about in a BMW or Mercedes. But you know, I really don't give a flying rip. I'm not falling into that same cultural morass that most Thais tend to gravitate toward.

I don't need anyone's respect in order to have self-respect. If you do? Well, then I pity you. Get a life.

Another guy who claims not to care what anyone thinks. In my experience, those who have to come out and say that are the ones who care the most. Are you trying to impress us with your non-chalant, non-caring attitude? We're also not impressed that you claim to have "more money than the average Thai will earn in 200 years." Why do some guys feel the need to flaunt their perceived wealth?

If I could afford a new pair of flip flops, I'd flaunt it too.

Actually, I did manage to get round to buying a new pair of shoes. Luckily, the local places didn't have my size, so I bought a British brand. So no more of this "Look at these shoes, I've only had them three weeks ..." or however long.

SC

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"there's no effin' doylies"

pm me and I will translate Streetcowboys post for you

You'll be inundated with three thousand old posts now...

EDIT: typo corrected, bythewayboys

Yup...I'm starting to regret it already

I might ask for a few explanations myelf, especially some of the ones around closing time in the Royal Oak...

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"there's no effin' doylies"

pm me and I will translate Streetcowboys post for you

You'll be inundated with three thousand old posts now...

EDIT: typo corrected, bythewayboys

You ever tried kissing a bar girl with cricket wings stuck to her teeth?......now that is disgusting

Serves you right for using your tongue

Fair enough in the heat of the mid-day sun, but surely one dons one's jacket and tie for dinner?

One does not want to be mistaken for some Johnny Foreigner type...

SC

I organize regular black tie affairs.

Nobody comes and I eat alone, but I do cut a dashing figure in my tux..the pizza guy seems genuinely impressed.

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It seems there are few that can meet our standards in these troubled times. Its no wonder the world is in the state that its in...

I keep on telling the chap down the food court "there's no effin' doylies" and he looks at me like I'm dyslexic

SC

Talking of wordsmiths, do they get any better than Mr Davies?

Bit of self parody here, stonking stuff, turn it up.

They've bullt flats where our cinema used to be. It closed before I was young, but between times it was a snooker hall, and before that I worked in the bingo hall there.

SC

Imagine going all the way home with bits of food stuck in your teeth.

Yuuk!

SC

How about if I'm retired and have more money than the average Thai will earn in 200 years?

I really don't care what Thai people think of me. I guess if I wanted to impress them, I'd drive about in a BMW or Mercedes. But you know, I really don't give a flying rip. I'm not falling into that same cultural morass that most Thais tend to gravitate toward.

I don't need anyone's respect in order to have self-respect. If you do? Well, then I pity you. Get a life.

Well said.

Why should we even need to set out to impress? We are what we are. If people need to be impressedthat is their problem.

As we are guests here, perhaps you should care if the locals are not impressed with the way you dress.

Why should I care?

I dress to be cool and comfortable. For my comfort. That does not mean I dress like a tramp.

You seem to have some weird ideas. Maybe you think we should all be in our 'Glad Rags' every day?

Fair enough in the heat of the mid-day sun, but surely one dons one's jacket and tie for dinner?

One does not want to be mistaken for some Johnny Foreigner type...

SC

The NRL starts in 3 weeks. Will you be as enthused about that?

I've never been able to get into English league somehow, but watching NRL makes me want to jump the fence and join in..

I never really got into the NRL. I would watch a Brisbane Broncos game if it was on, but I never really got excited about it. I do try and catch the State of Origin games, though.

SC

For me it's not deceptive if it is mentioned in the menu as it usually is. Not like automatic tips.

Regardless, my point is the cultural differences here. Most people i know don't have any problems with this. It has never crossed their mind actually. It's just people who come from US or similar culture of automatic tipping and below minimum wage staff. And try to apply it to Thailand.

I find it deceptive, and I feel it is deceitful as well. I also find it inconvenient, as mentioned earlier, because it makes divvying up the bill difficult when eating with English people. I would like to see a bottom-line figure quoted before I order. I would like to have an option on anything that I was not originally quoted - whether that be baggage, insurance, service or tax. If I am obliged to pay it, then it should be included in the price quoted.

SC

I bet you're all raging about the Edinburgh Stanley game being postponed again.

I'm listening to Wigan Leeds on the wireless, on Radio Leeds, so no Ray French, nor Allan Rooney (not at all, Allan; we're neither ov ooz theur). Still no score, coming up to fifteen minutes.

SC

EDIT: Half time - 12 Wigan - Leeds 0

There is something implicitly infantile in this " losing face " issue,

I have yet to come across a culture where anyone likes losing face,

However in Asia " Face " has been elevated to an art level, and Thailand is not alone ( and probably not the worst ) in regards to this issue,

In regards to the example given by Streetcowboy it has a comical undertone, I can remember having conversations like that with my toddlers, however in other circumstances it can have fatal consequences, where health and safety issues are swept under the carpet as people cannot have the integrity and honesty to hold up their hands and say......"It's my fault".

I blame the parents. I've noticed a tendency to look for scape goats and blame others, rather than constructively trying to solve problems pretty much everywhere I've been in Asia (and the UK) which tends to drive towards this sort of behaviour.

SC

If same question would have been popped around 6 or 7 years ago, maybe, right now there are much more better places to live in with that kind of money (South America, Hong Kong, Macao, Vietnam and why not even Cambodia)

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Hong Kong, Macao? I think implicitly the question was "If you had a million and wanted to stop working like a slave"

SC