StreetCowboy

Sorry to be the lone voice of dissent, but I think moderation is the key really.

What you are doing now is probably important if you've really been going at it for a while. BUt sooner or later will poer will not be enough! And after all drinking is a big enjoyment.

A question I have to ask myself too: what's stopping you from just enjoying a couple of/ few beers three or four times a week? I think that's the key.

As someone once said - "If I could drink sensibly, I'd be out there every night!

You're right, though, will power is not enough, and when that will power is weakened by the intoxicating effect of even one or two beers, you're off on the ski jump again.

Ther problem, mentioned by TP, is the irresistable thirst that a couple of pints gives you...

One solution is a programme of recovery that addresses the underlying reasons that we drink - either helps us find what we were looking for without drinking, or focusses our life on something more satisfying and, hopefully, less damaging. SUch as, in the OP's case, his child.

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Why is someone appointing a foreign child of 28 as manager?

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All I can assume is that a lot of posters have lived in a socialist utopia or the US most of their lives, and don't understand the human world.

There is a hierarchy, and we live within it. If we treat others appropriately, and with respect, everything works fine. We ask our bosses to do things, with a "Please", and we tell our staff, with a "please". OUr bosses explain why they did not, and our staff explain why they could not. But in every case, politeness, tolerance and care for personal dignity will distinguish staff from human resources....

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Agree entirely with Chunky. You don't see wealthy Thais treating poor Thai with much respect. Thai bosses know how to deal with staff and don't stand for any nonsense. Farang bosses are far more likely to be taken advantage of by their staff. You also dont see many Thais rushing to pay 500K baht sin sot for an uneducated farmers daughter, yet plenty of farangs do. This type of behaviour just adds further encouragement for Thais to take the piss when it comes to dealing with farang employers.

You're quite right. And its well worth a little piss to sort the wheat from the chaf.

I run a Western business, and I'd not employ piss-taking chaves, so I'm quite willing to give them one chance, and then pay to get rid of them; notwithstanding that was a long time ago and actually only once proved necessary.

I guess I'm lucky to have worked with people instead of human resources...

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If there is... What is it called and where is it? Cheers

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Sorry - I had misunderstood the question:

I realise now you were not asking directions.

Sorry mate, I've got no idea where you left your laptop.

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JOin us on the fantasy pub crawl ! The world's your Oyster, and your Oyster is your ticket to travel! Or Octopus, as appropriate.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/398502-fantasy-pub-crawl/

Or alternatively, join us (them, strictly) for the night of a century - better than a night out with Nicholas Bloody Parsons!

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/396352-fun-crazy-guys-night-out-in-bkk/

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In the absence of live TV coverage, what will you be doing at 1800 BST Saturday night for the Superleague Grand Final?

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One of my favourites was running your air con cold and not having a fridge.

I'm guessing that was an EGAT alter-ego

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I'd probably have to say a sarkworth

BUMP

No-one else seems to be taking this seriously

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Well, I'm just glad I'm not on the losers' side then...

Don't expect any sympathy - you'll be first against the wall when the guillotines come out

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I don't expect sympathy...I hold the courage of my convictions.

Also, I respect your comments & as such, I feel that you are well & truly a part of the "20%"...& I couldn't care less about what you think of me.

That's a scarey thought. Do you reckon you (maybe 'we') get blindfolded on the way to the guillotine - reminds me of a joke - "wait a minute lads, I can see what's wrong!"

I know they don't blindfold you going up the scaffold, for fear you trip and break your neck.

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on one post?

in other words which member has the highest number of + Green reputation marks on any single post

What a totally absurd question!!!

Since this idiotic "reputation" count can vary hour by hour, how can this question be correctly answered?

The real answer is this...since 80% of the worlds population are twits, the person with the highest reputation at any given point in time, has achieved such a ranking due to the "twits" of the world. Very simple really

That's tremendous that you're now only insulting 80% of the population.

Keep taking the tablets...

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I have not changed my stance from some time ago. Anyway, the "80%" of the population in question will be unable to supply an answer of any real value...but I live & wait in hope.

All one has to do is to visit the "Thailand News clippings" section & see the "80%" The "20%" have an uphill battle, which obviously can't be won.

Well, I'm just glad I'm not on the losers' side then...

Don't expect any sympathy - you'll be first against the wall when the guillotines come out

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on one post?

in other words which member has the highest number of + Green reputation marks on any single post

What a totally absurd question!!!

Since this idiotic "reputation" count can vary hour by hour, how can this question be correctly answered?

The real answer is this...since 80% of the worlds population are twits, the person with the highest reputation at any given point in time, has achieved such a ranking due to the "twits" of the world. Very simple really

That's tremendous that you're now only insulting 80% of the population.

Keep taking the tablets...

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If i remember correctly, in the Diggers you just hold up your fingers indicating how many pints you need. No namby pamby gin and tonics!! I shall take some piccies.

I shall go there around Xmas time and drink to your healths!!

Again - RIP Tam who brought smiles and warmth to alot of people over the years in the Windy City.

That was the claim. We never really confirmed; I think more that the beer taps were continuously pouring in any case, and so there were always a few more or less to hand...

They do actually serve other drinks - I think when we went in mixed company they had a cider tap for the ladies.

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Hey Heng, I know about probability but I still bought two tickets. I'm going to win several million Baht in few hours.

But why did you buy the other ticket?

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I suppose, to give to your girlfriend, to avoid giving her half the winnings. Make sure you keep track of which ticket is which...

How distressing would that be? That's put me right off gambling, that has

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They realize they are always posting caustically, rudely or crudely....and they, too may times seem to be using an alter-ego when in real life they are really nice people...

IMHO, the posters who do nothing but try to start trouble and post nonsense in order to offend others are mostly social inadequates - on-line or off - and are people that you would spot immediately and avoid in real life.

I'm afraid that therapy will not help them. There must be another solution.

? You think we should grout round our bath tubs?

I suppose it could help...

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good lord Thaivisa.com is going downhill fast.

There was a time when the site seemed to have a younger poster base comprise of people with bit lives and wit.

Alas this has given way to a retirement community of mutual backslappers and lonely old men as the moderators slowly cull out all posters of value.

What have you got against slappers?

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You only miss the cold as a concept, when you wake up and your nose is cold, (every morning for what seems like forever!) that particular novelty wears off rapidly

I do like wearing my big coat though.

And yes, it rains pathetically here, but it does it so well! Pathetic drizzle, a speciality!

No, I genuinely miss crisp mornings, snow, gentle drizzle.

Winter storms I can live without - or rather, Thai rainstorms are an adequate substitute, though a typhoon is one better, in my book.

Mind, I suppose my blood's a bit thinner than last time I was back in blighty...

I suppose my suggestion for all these young people would be to make the most of your thick warm freely circulating blood in a cold climate whilst you can - you'll miss all that, what with global warming, in years to come...

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It was a reasonable article with a fairly accurate portrayal of what goes on. There didn't seem to be any bigoted opinions or portrayals.

Did we read the same article??

For many years, the New York Times has been a discredited left wing rag, hemmorrhaging money and barely staying afloat. Trying googling "Jayson Blair." The National Enquirer does more accurate reporting for chrissakes.

I found the article to be highly generalized, demeaning and patronistic, just what one would expect from the snooty, inbred, liberal elite of the Northeast US.

Ha Ha! Most of our readers will miss the self-parodying irony of this post, and might take it seriously.

Remember that stupidity is like atomic power - best handled carefully, and you don't want to get any on you.

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That was a quick thread - we've answered all three questions already in three posts:

Invention: Sarkworth - I've no idea what it is either, presumably because its not been invented.

Device: Self-inking rubber stamps for immigration

Thing: Farang partner (presumably that depends on the level of respect given to the partner by the speaker...) - I am lucky that my Thai is not sufficent to detect such ...

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I remembered a great place to start the crawl - before we go to the football before 'diggers', in fact before we even get the bus into town for a pub lunch before the football...

I was on business, and I'd decided to stay near the factory in the village in the mountains in the Basque country. I stayed in a a dismal hotel that stank of paraffin and didn't serve breakfast. 'Not a problem,' I thought - 'I'll get something on the way into work'.

The only place I found open was a little cafe-bar, where the factory workers were having a quick calvados on the way in, watching porn on the TV.

And for the football match, I'd suggest the National Stadium in Taipei, where you can bring in beer from the Seven-Eleven under the North Stand, and, in another throw-back to the good old days, its entirely non-seated. It's also handy for the MRT station, which is lucky because its quite a trek from there to 'Diggers', Otherwise, if we tried to go by Shanks's Pony, we'd run the risk of wandering through the Zone...

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In the late 80's, we would go to Missoula Montana to go fly fishing for browns on Rock Creek up in the mountains just east of the city. 5AM breakfast would always be at the Oxford where the special was brains and eggs, a glass of beer, and a shot of whiskey. Last time I was there, I sat next to a rancher that was wearing a loaded side arm. This was a common sight in Montana in those not so distant days. You sure wouldn't see that today! At any rate, it was a tough place with surly waitresses, great food, and always a rasty early morning crowd. The Oxford unfortunately was sold and turned into a chrome and plastic dinner for the yuppie crowd. Missoula hasn't been the same since.

You drink like a fish, but I see your mates are floundering a bit...

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And George said there was a prize at the end of every month for the poster with the most green marks.

Yeah, it's dinner with Mr Neverdie.

Or it could be Jingthing or Glitterman...

There's an offer you can't reduce....

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Now I know how expensive air conditioning is, Im a bit worried about the temperature and humidity indoors without it... its a bit worrying because when I was in Bangkok all the buildings were air conditioned.

I think you have to really experience the heat and humidity to get a grasp on how uncomfortable it can be... for me anyway. I've been in Chiang Mai for 3 months (leaving at Christmas back to UK) and although I feel I've gotten more used to the heat (don't need to use aircon now) I just don't like being hot all the time. I actually miss the cool/cold english weather (maybe the only person that does! still, see how I feel when I'm back in the middle of winter) and snuggling up with a blanket while it lashes down outside. I can't walk very far outside here without breaking into a full body sweat- can't imagine going to work everyday here either (unless in an aircon vehicle into an aircon office- never gonna happen). That's just me anyway.

Good luck with what you decide to do, but perhaps you'd be better coming out here with a friend if they're up for it. Definitely think you need to get a decent amount of savings behind you as well

Sometimes I miss the cold and the snow and the drizzle and getting to wear my big coat.

But rain! Hah - when its coming down stair rods here and the roads are flooding up your shins - British people don't know what rain is!

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OK, so 'Diggers' is definitely in the crawl unless Smokie's sisters' out, although she might have come out while she was inside.

'Diggers' is ideal for the five o clock heroes, after the football's given you a thirst and you can still taste the beer.

Then an island bar, could be in Lerwick, or the Preservation Hall, or somewhere in the West Indies.

And a British country pub - sorry, this is all looking a bit parochial

We should include one of those dodgy Latin American places - I passed through a couple of pretty rough places in Mexico - one in particular sticks in my mind close to the train station in Durango, but I'm not sure I could find it again.

We should not leave ParkView Square too late in the evening, as it closes at a sensible time, and its a bit refined and upmarket; I was going to say we'd be as well taking off our football scarves, but we'd have not been let into 'Diggers' wearing them anyway...

Where next? I've still got a bit of a thirst on, and the night is still young, unlike the rest of us...

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So how's it going, then? I'm sorry I've not been able to make it.

Or is it next weekend? I'll have been paid by then...

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But I thought it was tonight. And I flew up from Samui especially. Oh well another time.....!

Will spend my evening in the Crossbar then..... .....

You thought it was tonight my tonight (26 Sep. or tonight tonight (28 Sep)?

Anyway, even if it is next week, they should be checking the course tonight, and getting a few practice laps in..."lapping it up" so to speak.

I don't suppose, on your way past, assuming that's the way that you walk (oo err), you could pop into the dreary pubs between the Old Dutch and the chippie and check - I am sure one of either the Ship or the Offshore or another pub in that little row (rank is probably a more apt term) does Newcastle Brown on draught...

There's another place on River Valley Road in Singapore that also used to have it...

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I'm lost on this pub crawl however I did have a beer in each of the three pubs you mentioned this afternoon. I guess for completeness sake I should have another run through them shortly especially the rather dingy Offshore which looks like the sort of place which might do under the counter 25 yo malt. I'll check in Fannies as well which I popped into last night and sadly I can confirm no dogs in any of the bars mentioned.

I'm pleased there was no dogs in Fannies - in that case I might go there myself next time I'm passing. Normally that sort of bar has a dog for the blind in case anyone goes in thus drunk - for that Christmas morning surprise!

Are the lads still on for the weekend?

Have we found any attractions yet to surpass Carrefour food court?

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