MikeandDow

5 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

got a link to your evidence ?

google is your friend

its all over the Internet How Thaskin and his goverment authorised this, also how he did not ratify the rome agreement so he could not be arrested for his crimes against humanity

10 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

They were likely considered to be dogs and were going to squeal to the pigs... and got taken out by drug gangs and drug bosses.

Once again. nothing to do with Thaksin or the elected government at the time.

the government is reportedly encouraging the police to sidestep judicial procedures, leading to the summary execution of alleged offenders. It is also reported that the police have planted drugs and then detained or killed alleged 'suspects'.

The actions that the police forces have been taking in Thailand are in direct violation of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), to which Thailand is a party,

Encouragement for extra-judicial killings has been given at the highest level with law enforcement officers under heavy pressure to produce results or lose their jobs,' Amnesty International warned.

I think you are dreaming if you think Thaskin had nothing to do with this  This is Thailands Shame

27 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

The druggies took each other out. Thaksin was/is not responsible.

tell that to the 1,372 of the people killed that had no drug related records.

 

9 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Yeah and I already know the answer but seems most here think Thaksin personally killed them all himself.

He was responsible, but the Thai goverment also needs to take  responsibility for its inaction

Just now, Ralf001 said:

How many people did Thai police kill in the war on drugs versus the number who were killed by other drug gangs and drug bosses ?

google is your friend

41 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

An accusation made 12 years ago and reported in a London newspaper does not really provide conclusive proof.

 

I googled the International Court of Justice (ICJ) for "ICJ Thaksin". Nothing about investigating him - the Man from UNCLE seems to have given it a miss!

 

There was quite a lot about the ICJ ruling on the Preah Vihear temple dispute which you may recall did lead to a somewhat pathetic military attempt to occupy the temple, and a consequent rather embarrassing shoeing from a bunch of Cambodians with old AK47s and flip flops! That of course happened after the noble "Knights of the Eastern Tigers" and the "Sons of Heaven" had swooped in to rescue Thailand from the government that they were about to elect!

international human rights organisations denounced the "war" as one of the worst cases of human rights abuse in recent times. Eventually, the UN Commission on Human Rights asked the Thai government to explain some 23 cases of abuse from mass killings to deaths and disappearances of rights defenders, like lawyer Somchai Neelapaijit. No explanaion given

When the Independent Committee on the Casualties of the 2003 War on Drugs established by the Surayud Chulanont government published its report in 2008, it concluded that 1,372 of the people killed had no drug related records.

More importantly, the chair of the commission concluded that all 2,873 killings should be considered crimes against humanity. Since the day the report was published, not a single case has been pursued.

This culture of impunity is Thailands national shame.

The ethnic-religious conflict ignited by Thaksin's policies in the three deep South provinces has even more tragic and longer term consequences. Since 2004, 5,700 people have died, with 1,000 imprisoned, awaiting trial for treason, which carries the death penalty. In 2002 these three provinces had a mere three cases of violent crimes, in 2005 the number jumped to 1,500 cases.

The Tak Bai incident paints a dark stain across thailands national conscience. But thailands culture of immunity remains intact. Thailands leaders,  police,  armed forces continue to commit terrible acts of injustice with impunity.

"Lawyers have suggested that Thaksin's drug war might amount to a crime against humanity under Article Seven of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court [ICC], set up in 1992."

Until we deconstruct this culture of impunity, Thailand's political development will remain trapped in the shadows of despair. Hang you head in shame Thailand
 

14 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

If the 3000 were guilty as you say and knew the consequences of their illegal drug smuggling/pedalling actions (the clampdown etc was well advertised) then I do condone it! As I do of all actions against drug pedlars & smugglers!

Where did i say the 3000 were guilty   I said 3000 were killed,  you need to read Thai history Thailand should hang its head in shame,

When the Independent Committee on the Casualties of the 2003 War on Drugs established by the Surayud Chulanont government published its report in 2008, it concluded that 1,372 of the people killed had had no drug related records.

More importantly, the chair of the commission concluded that all3000 killings should be considered crimes against humanity. Since the day the report was published, not a single case has been pursued.
Thailands Shame

48 minutes ago, retarius said:

Yawn. Investigation is not the same as guilt whatever your twisted mind says and however much you might hate Thaksin. 

so you condone Thaskin action of killing 3000 people Guilty or not he should rot in jail

On 9/7/2023 at 3:20 PM, kingstonkid said:

The challenge around the world is that the media does not investigate or follow up.

 

We all see the headlines but do we ever see any follow up

 

Used to be that reporters would get a good story and follow up.  Now unless it is Trump the media doesn't care 

Here it is the sensation headlines but we never hear what happened after.  Look at all these so called sexual abuses.  We see the headlines but do we know what the outcomes were

 Until the thais deconstruct this culture of impunity, Thailand's political development will remain trapped in the shadows of despair.

 

2 hours ago, freeworld said:

Is there any country in the world truly democratic, don't think so.

 

What is democracy

 

• Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
• A political or social unit that has such a government.
• The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
• Majority rule.
• The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.
• Government by the people; a system of government in which the sovereign power of the state is vested in the people as a whole, and is exercised directly by them or their elected agents.
• A state or civil body in which the people themselves exercise all legislative authority, and confer all executive and judicial powers, either by direct collective action or through elected representatives.
• Political and social equality in general; a state of society in which no hereditary differences of rank or privilege are recognized: opposed to aristocracy.

Look at the democratic index The swiss has a pure democracy

17 minutes ago, retarius said:

You got evidence and a court room judgement on that? If it is so clear, then why wasn't he prosecuted on this first. This being the far most serious case? No, thought not, usual brain dead comments from the brain dead.

In 2005, the UN Human Rights Committee raised serious concerns about the "extraordinarily large number of killings" that took place during the ‘war' and recommended that thorough and independent investigations be undertaken.4 Then UN Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial, Summary or Arbitrary Executions, Asma Jahangir, sent an urgent communication to the Thai government in 2003.5 In its response, Thailand said that every unnatural death would be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the law.6 To date, none of the perpetrators of arbitrary killings have been brought to justice.

this is Thai justice   Thailand should be ashamed

10 minutes ago, retarius said:

You got evidence and a court room judgement on that? If it is so clear, then why wasn't he prosecuted on this first. This being the far most serious case? No, thought not, usual brain dead comments from the brain dead.

can you not read     Lawers for the ICC are pursuing a case against Thaskin for war crimes on his "war on drugs" and nearly 3000 deaths

9 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

That would called - Clutching at straws.

And that is the problem Thailand as a people have no adherence to moral and ethical principles

11 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Those the ones he has not been accused of nor charged with ?

ICC Lawers making a case 

Until Thailand  deconstruct this culture of impunity, Thailand's political development will remain trapped in the shadows of despair.
"Lawyers have suggested that Thaksin's drug war might amount to a crime against humanity under Article Seven of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court [ICC], set up in 1992." Thaksin finds this funny "I've done nothing wrong!" he laughs. "I just give the policy."

Human rights commissioner Wasant Panich thinks otherwise. "Those who devised the policy are primarily responsible for the deaths,"



 

5 hours ago, CanadaSam said:

I'd like to know who this "enemy" is, that the Thailand military is preparing to "fight" with such expensive toys!

Thailand fight you are joking !!!!!  it only took 5 hrs to subjugate thailand by the japanese

1 hour ago, Mickmouse1 said:

this comment tantamount to a racist remark. WHY ARE YOU HERE THEN? 

Where is here ???? Borneo !!!!

On 9/9/2023 at 1:24 PM, joecoolfrog said:

Sure but there are degrees , hence the corruption index , all nations do NOT have the same levels of corruption.

Thailand way down the list  Land of scams

Thaskin is a very bad man and should be in jail for War Crimes, 

Lawers for the ICC are pursuing a case against Thaskin for war crimes on his "war on drugs" and nearly 3000 deaths

Thaksin's clear culpability in the matter of his 2003 "war on drugs", and following on, his responsibility for igniting the ethnic-religious conflict in the deep South. For more than 10 years now Thaksin has evaded responsibility for these _ the most heinous of his crimes.

"Lawyers have suggested that Thaksin's drug war might amount to a crime against humanity under Article Seven of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court [ICC], set up in 1992."

And they want to release him  "God forbid"

On 10/16/2023 at 11:09 AM, paul1804 said:

Thai politics not much different to many other countries, notably the USA & Russia! The USA gets their intelligence organisation to assassinate their unwanted leaders and with the VP of the day in cohorts. In Thailand they just go into exile and when the dust has settled cruise back in. 

Well You dont know much about thai history 

This cracks me up "leads to a national crackdown on all illegal activity and corruption"