MikeandDow

26 minutes ago, gearbox said:

Eventual Putin visit is a non event for most Thais, they don't know who Putin is.

They are not taught world affairs in school  "Blinkers on" nor world history

12 minutes ago, retarius said:

On wanted trumped up charges about removing unaccompanied children from a war zone. Grow up will you? Read something about these issues instead of swallowing BBC or CNN propaganda hook line and sinker.

so you think  the ICC charges against Putin are false, think you should read the ICC charges  and you dont belive in war crimes like this  hang your head in shame, this is just the start of his wae crimes

17 March 2023, Pre-Trial Chamber II of the International Criminal Court (“ICC” or “the Court”) issued warrants of arrest for two individuals in the context of the situation in Ukraine: Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Ms Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova.

Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, born on 7 October 1952, President of the Russian Federation, is allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation (under articles 8(2)(a)(vii) and 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute). The crimes were allegedly committed in Ukrainian occupied territory at least from 24 February 2022. There are reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Putin bears individual criminal responsibility for the aforementioned crimes, (i) for having committed the acts directly, jointly with others and/or through others (article 25(3)(a) of the Rome Statute), and (ii) for his failure to exercise control properly over civilian and military subordinates who committed the acts, or allowed for their commission, and who were under his effective authority and control, pursuant to superior responsibility (article 28(b) of the Rome Statute).

Pre-Trial Chamber II considered, based on the Prosecution’s applications of 22 February 2023, that there are reasonable grounds to believe that each suspect bears responsibility for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population and that of unlawful transfer of population from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation, in prejudice of Ukrainian children.

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

It is clear that Thailand has chosen to be a Chinese satrapy. I think this pretty much seals the deal for most of mainland Southeast Asia. Accordingly, the US needs immediately to stop funneling money and investment into Thailand. So too should it stop dreaming that Vietnam is an alternative. The Vietnamese are just trying to leverage money out of the US. They will never realign from China. That leaves Cambodia, Laos, and Myanmar firmly in China's grip. If the US still wants to fund and build up a country in the region, it should refocus on the Philippines, which has strong cultural, political, and military ties to the US. The Philippines' population is better educated and more capable of participating with the US as an economic partner. But the US should go cold turkey on Thailand. Cancel Cobra Gold immediately, raise import tariffs on Thai goods to match Thai tariffs, curtail Thai ownership of US property and companies, and put Thailand immediately under sanctions if it allows Chinese companies to relocate to Thailand in order to evade existing sanctions on them. Sever all military and political connections--all that does is provide information that will go directly to China. Let Thailand be free to act in its best interests. The US is free to do so as well. And it is no longer in the US' best interests to waste anymore time and resources on Thailand.

yes let them run to china and russia there economies are booming

1 minute ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Yes but they are being paid not too.

no  Integrity,  just money money

2 hours ago, kimamey said:

Thanks for that. I only have a limited knowledge of what happened so your post was very helpful. 

why do only have limited knowledge

8 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I think some of it makes a lot of sense, Switzerland always remains neutral as did Sweden in ww2.

not quite correct

those states that managed to stay out of the war, such as Sweden and Switzerland, found their ability to maintain strict neutrality hampered by the intensity of the conflict,  The result, is “they played a somewhat ambiguous—and still controversial—role in the war.”

A seminal 1998 U.S. State Department report helped dispel the myth that there was any standard form of neutrality, citing that the neutral countries continued trading with the Allied and Axis forces, sent troops to offer military assistance, and allowed one side or the other access to its territory.

Typical Thai mentality, dont bother about people dying, the tourist are not comming no money !!!!

5 minutes ago, sscc said:

In Beijing five days ago,  Putin initiated and invited Srettha for a short gathering.  It surprised Srettha and the Thai entourage.   So why not ?  it does not hurt Thailand a bit,  but there is an opportunity out there. 

 

How do you know  " It surprised Srettha and the Thai entourage."  where you there !!!!!

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Corruption is at every level and in every office in Thailand.

It's perpetuated by those in positions of power who think that their position allows them to reap the rewards of rank or position.

Every governor will have fingers in many pies, all giving kick-backs for favourable contracts.

Every "Head-man" will also benefit from local contracts as did this evil man who thought he had become untouchable.

Eradicate corruption in Thailand... never in a million years, it's foundations are built on corruption, take that away the country would collapse.

very astute post

5 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

I'm Still waiting for declared assets after the Ex PM and all his cohorts left Govt. Not a single word on that. Also where is Prayuth living now? is he still in his free barrack housing? again not a word on that gem.  

Think deadline is in November sometime

28 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Will that be before or after they show up at Prawit's place to look at his wristwatches, or pop around to Prayut's gaffe to check out his bank books, or arrange a chat with Suthep to inquire about all the bin liners full of "cash donations" given by the grateful retailers of Bangkok as he was marching around...

Dont think they have been branded as war criminals  but they should for there appalling record of  human rights violation  but that is up to the Thai people

15 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Yet, for all the years he was in "exile", roaming the world virtually unrestricted, the ICC never thought or moved to bring a case against him. Strange that!

Lawyers have suggested that Thaksin's drug war might amount to a crime against humanity under Article Seven of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court [ICC], set up in 1992.

It is up to ICC if they want to arrest, but because Thailand has not ratified the Rome agreement its very doubtful,  but does not alter the fact that Thaskin is a war criminal responsible for some 2800 deaths,

When the Independent Committee on the Casualties of the 2003 War on Drugs established by the Surayud Chulanont government published its report in 2008, it concluded that 1,372 of the people killed had no drug related records.
More importantly,the chair of the commission concluded that all 2,873 killings should be considered crimes against humanity

Since the day the report was published, not a single case has been pursued.

The culture of impunity is Thailands  national shame. Thaksin's "war on drugs" was broadly welcomed by many Thais



 

1 minute ago, John Drake said:

Isn't their an opposition political party in Thailand that could make a comment on this? Or do they just agree with PTP? Do they ever say anything about anything important? 

Correct Why does the opposition not question this

10 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

I was only referring to a post about the Tak Bai incident. The poster said 1500 people were massacred, and most were Thaksin's enemies - not correct.

1500people were not massacred  1500 gathered at the police station   78 died after being transported   i was talking about Thaskin war on Drugs Not Tak Bai incident

9 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

poorly written. confusing on a good day

agree very poor  Its a Thailand circus show no justice for the child

19 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

I think you should provide a link to your "massacre of 1500 people".

There was a disgraceful incident, but not on that scale.

just look up thailand war on drugs  the icc has a good case against him for war crimes  there were more than 1500 people he was responsible for killing  he is a bad guy

According to official Thai government figures a total of 2,274 people died nationwide during the nationwide crackdown.

1 hour ago, sidneybear said:

Oooo. The US once cancelled Cobra Gold because Thailand didn't kow tow. That'll show 'em, eh?

 

The fact remains that Thailand maintains friendly relations with countries of its choosing, while minding its own business and not starting wars all over the world. Your insulting Thailand, while lauding the west for imaginary moral standards, is groundless and just plain daft. 

Its very obvious you do not know that thailand is in a continuing war at present, and is continuing to supress  human rights

Thailand should hang its head in shame for its human rights violations and you have the gaul to talk about moral standards shame on you

sorry for going off topic

11 hours ago, bannork said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Thai_Movement

Worth a read 

yes Thailand had a underground  movement this is one of the reasons Thailand recived little punishment after the war

2 hours ago, Srikcir said:

My point is arrest would still not occur if Thailand had ratified the ICC.  

agreed, dont have the balls

9 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Thailand didnt ratify the Rome Statute because of ICC Article 27 which stipulate that "official capacity as a Head of State shall in no case exempt a person from criminal responsibility under this Statute, nor shall it, in and of itself, constitute a ground for reduction of sentence". That was the major concern for countries with constitutional monarchy. Not because of Thaksin's drug war as you alleged. Get the facts right. 

Did not say that read my post              did not say anything about  article 27,  it was under Thaskin gov,  put your glasses on and try to comprehend my post 

31 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

That’s was the junta government that didn’t ratify in 2012 to prevent ICC investigation of military atrocities against civilians. Not Thaksin’s government. How did you get this fact so wrong? Must be a junta acolyte. 

Thailand signed the Rome Statute in 2000 but, under Thaksin, didn't ratify it.

Lawyers have suggested that Thaksin's drug war might amount to a crime against humanity under Article Seven of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court [ICC], set up in 1992."
How did You get your facts so wrong
 

7 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

That’s was the junta government that didn’t ratify in 2012 to prevent ICC investigation of military atrocities against civilians. Not Thaksin’s government. How did you get this fact so wrong? Must be a junta acolyte. 

Thailand Has not ratified the Rome agreement 2023 and will not because if so the icc will go after Thaskin for war crimes Thaskin war on drugs in 2003 learn your history how did YOU get your facts so wrong !!