Khutan

Well if you can get fakes, why not get ones for you friends and give them as Songkran Gifts

Not sure about that one, but you will have to deal with my "Friends" at Prum in Cambodia and pay the "Fee" for not staying overnight.

BTW, My wife and I are now building and going to open a small "Guest House" down in Southern Surin about 25km from the boarder at Chom Chon. The idea is you get mini Bussed out, stay where you can get good food etc etc have swimming pool and Pool Tables, Internet Sattelite TV, then go for a "Day Trip" to Cambodia.....

You can come back kick back relax and then go back to bangkok the next day on your chosen mode of transport.

I think its the closest guest house to the boarder.

We will organise things like Fly to Burriram or Surin, Public Bus to Prasat, Mini Bus etc etc as your mode of Transport.

Interested in people's opinions and what they think will be good to pay for a package including Transport, Accom and 3 meals.

Things I will add;

1. The food, some Thai's hate western food. If she doesn't like western food there can be a problem.

2. Since she is from the north there is probably a better chance she can tolerate the cold. My wife come to Australia and it has been a cold summer, so cold she wears a ski jacket if it is less than 25 degrees......

3. Remember you will spend alot of time at Thai resteraunts....

Good luck.

One of the great things is you get to see your own country, home etc from your lovers eyes and have a totally different perspective.

Really, if she rolls in the sack with you its an expression of comittment and devotion.

At the end of the day if she is not a virgin, who is going to know if you have done the deed or not.

After all "Who is going to miss a slice off a cut loaf of bread?"

Miss Ange,

I am glad to see you demonstrate a number of behaviours we are all talking about. When I say "Take Care" it is in the Thai manner. My wife tells me this all the time, and how much she enjoys taking "care". Remember also the dynamics of the relationship are totally different.

You have just become the example of what I am talking about. From your own words you are obviously ผู้หญิงขี้เกียจ (Lazy Woman) with extremly high expectations.

But I congratulate you finding somwone to stay with you for a year.

Ok, your boyfriend, and his words of wisdom..... Sorry what qualifies his opinion to invalidate everyone's opinion.

Maybe you could tell us all how long did he live with his Thai partner. I mean every day, and I don't mean the odd week in Pattaya with someone he met an Nana or Soi Cowboy.

How long has he spent with her family, and understood the issues facing a woman in Thailand.

I also bet he probably dotes on and calls you "dear". How many times does he say to you "Yes Dear".... Anyway you claim he says would never go back.

All I can sa y is Ha Ha Ha

The central issue in my mind is the expectations of the farang women from the Thai women.

My wife has a few rules and as long as I don't break them it is easy. Things like;

Don't have sex with other Women

Make Sure we have enough money to buy food

Don't go out drinking with your friends for more than 3 days.

Don't talk bad of her family.

Apart from that the expectation is almost zero, apart from the normal love and respect stuff. She is happy to either go to work or not. She is happy to scrub the skid marks from my underpants, she will cook anything I like - even decent Hamburgers. She will look after my 3 Australian kids for a week or more when I go on a "Business Trip".

Look at the expectations of Farang women. I am not going to list them, there isn't enough disk space on the server to hold them all.

That is why it is nearly impossible to go back. It has nothing to do with macho anything, its just one takes care of their partner a whole lot better than the other.

Aussiegirl;

Spoken as an Aussie Guy....

There are a few truths about relationships with Thai's. I was given this advice a long time ago and I thought it was crap, now I believe it is as true as the sun rising every day....

"Once you have had a Thai woman for more than 3 months there is no going back"

I thought this was rubbish until I lived with my Thai g/f who is now my wife. This is the same or everyone else I know who is in a relationship and really the question beggs "Why would I want to go back"

Now if you think he is one of the 0.001% of the population who would go back to a western woman - make him not send the money for 3 months. Make sure he does not say how long he cannot pay her for. Give some chat like he has lost his job and looking for a new one etc...

If she is genuine and she goes off and works growing rice or serving in a resteraunt then you are in trouble. The other possibility is she will dunp him after a month or so....

Good Luck

Geeit;

3 things that will greatly influence this answer.....

Do you plan to live in Bangkok or Up-Country ?

Do you have a Thai Wife or Partner

Do you intend to travel much

Apart from that food etc is very cheap.

Another point might be - well if you marry a Bar Girl form LOS ot Philippines or Russia or wherever, at least they should know what a man likes....

After all in such a caring relationship like that, you would then ask the question - "how do you give a woman a great orgasm......?

Answer - "Who cares"

Well it will be experiance that makes the difference.

I agree there are differences, but the essence is if you were back in Falang-Land would you marry a prostitute or encourage any of your friends to marry a prositiute.

If you say yes then there is no problem.

and of course "She is not the same as all the others".

Personally I did not marry a bar girl, I don't like the sub-culture and the silent code they tend to keep.

There is a scam going on in Australia where they are actually copying the bank's logon pages and giving you a hidden link in the email - - that is nasty since it would catch alot of people

So many times I have talked to various companies for for a foreigner to get the work permit, you must have a degree.

Probing the question of what sort of degree, and what major etc, generally the response is oh any degree, an Arts Degree or a Science degree is fine, just as long as you have a degree.

I responded Oh, I have a Science degree from (well known Australian University), is that ok, once again I got the response from this prospective employer, now a little bored - yes any degree will do, we don't care where it comes from or what it is just as long as you have one.

I then put the question that I can go and get a legitimate degree from a legitimate uninersity from the internet posted to my hovel within 10 business days. The response from this prospective employer was "As long as the people who issue the work permits accept it - we don't care".

So the question is if someone had one of these "degrees" and the Department of Commerce can actually contact the issuing "University" and establish it is authentic, is there a problem using this degree for a Work Permit, since the thing is legitimate, although very flimsy???

Anny comments would be appreciated

Cheapest Visa Run I can think of that may help is to take the bus to Chantaburi. There is then another bus then takes you down almost to the boarder, you can get one of those Baht busses to the car-park.

Remember you will have to pay 1000thb for the visa and stay more than 18 hours...

Another cheap idea would be to take the 3rd class train to Butterworth, that is cheap. It will be long and slow, but cheap.

But if you can't afford to do that - how are you paying your hotel bill and eating????

When you make a decision to overstay your visa, remember what your own country would do to a Thai National who did the same as what you are thinking.

Kevin;

Good point, I am also concerned with Froggy's grammar. It makes the post so difficult to understand.

Sometimes in Life there's some stupids who come in a place where they're not suppose!

I know this may be a little coarse, but what is the relationship like. Is it one of those very traditional ones where he cannot touch her and they just look into each other's eyes with fascination whilst being chaperoned. Or Is it a more "Conventional" relationship in the falang way.

If all he has been doind gor the last 2 years is looking into her eyes and then goes off and "Flys a kite" what would you expect.....

Ok I am having a bit of fun here.

Is that laws like:

What is the limit to the number of times do you have to sit on the Bus to Issan

What it the prescribed calculation for giving money to the family of mosquito's and Munya's

When is an appropriate time at law to beat your wife.

With the same application of the above for her mother

If you sell your wife - do you have to pay commission to her family

I can think of many more laws that I cannot get an answer for.

Sorry I forget the name of the CD, I threw it away

If you buy a CD at Pantip, be careful of Viruses.

I loaded it on my work Laptop and the Virus alert went crazy.

I know Bundy got bought out by some UK company, so their distributrs may have the rights. But, I suggest you email Bundy and ask them who their distributor is - if they don't have one, you may have an opportunity.

Now for that advice can you also do the same for Crown Larger - I am getting tired of buying the stuff in Australia and bringing it in my hand luggage.

No Slow down in the deeper parts of Issan.

All I can say is Good Luck. Maybe it might be an idea to go to the Big Hotel and ask them who they might recommend.

On a side point - My wife comes from Surin and doesn't live there any more - I hope we don't share the same partner and I am being divorced in secret !!!!

But Good Luck

Consider this; a case of Heinekin at (well known store) in On Nut costs about 750 Bt for 24 bottles, or about 32 baht a bottle.

A bottle of Soft drink at the same store isn't all that much. I forget - I am only ever interested in the price of the beer.

So at Soi Cowboy / Nana the beer is about 100 a bottle now, depending on where you go.

Say you like to drink 6 to 8 beers during the course of the evening you will end up with a bar bill of 600 - 800 Baht, add on the drinks for your friend(s) you can now probably total the bill for drinks alone to be pushing 2000 Baht.

On the same calculation at home getting the drinks out of the fridge, including drinks for your friend, you have paid out at the most 300 bt. This represents a saving of 1700 Baht.

So if you walk straight into a bar, and not order a drink, find a friend and barfine her then of your saving you will have 1200 left, you can then take her to your apartment and show her what a romantic guy you are.

Maybe she might neex a taxi ride home which you could contribute the 1200 towards.

I had the pleasure of talking to my Thai Lawer the other week and this matter cropped up because my wife has a large rice property off in Issan. It came to her after we were married.

He also said you don't have to have a lease, but she can grant you some sort of "Right of Use and Occupancy" This means that you have exclusive use of the land until you die and it is nearly worthless if someone trys to sell it.....

The other thing he advised I could do was to set up a company with nominees etc that owns the property and moth myself and my wife could control the land that way. Then if I die, she gets my share of the company, if she dies then we re-structure the company (Some how?)....

Strongly advise you talk to a lawyer and get some "Paid" advice. It doesn't cost alot but can save a big problem later.

Just a rew more ideas to throw in.

I spent about 10 minutes talking with the dear wife about this one and according to her the name is pronounced Clitty

I can assume the Baby is a girl ?

It depends on how big your "Payout" will be. Can you give us an idea ?