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I was also surprised at the referendum result but, as most here know, I was happy with it. That said, Brexit itself has been a messy disaster, so far, but I'm not sure that could have been avoided, given the weak negotiating route adopted by Theresa May combined with the belligerent stance taken by the EU. So much for "good faith". EU laws were rolled into UK law to provide legal continuity and certainty in the aftermath of Brexit. The Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill 2022-23 will hopefully deal with the revocation of such laws. The Brexit Secretary, David Davis, was totally undermined by Theresa May, as she allowed her fellow Europhile, Ollie Robbins, to be her effective chief negotiator. Finally, after May came back from meeting Merkel, with the soon-to-fail Chequers Plan , Davis resigned after he saw what had been going on. But is all this "B.S" in the UK today all due to Brexit being a failure or just a succession of poor national governments? After nearly 50 years in then the true success (or not) of Brexit cannot be fairly measured until a similar period has passed. On the bright side, that means most of us won't have to worry about the answer.

All ridiculous anyway. Any sovereign state should produce its own travel documents.

Damn. Well I said I had a h/over.

It's only you that has mentioned the words regret and polls. Such a silly billy.

I'm sure that is not what I wrote or meant. Please hold further silly posts until my hangover has subsided.

Regret has always belonged to the remainers.

It is entirely relevant to your post, which mainly refers to Brexit.

Obviously not.

You obviously still don't know why leave won, do you?

Not only shifting goalposts but also installing new sets of sticks all over the place! If you look at what I've said in previous posts then you might realize that I mostly agree with you, at least as far as the house price/ownership/availability issue goes. That said, I thought to go back to the OP (a mere 91 pages ago) and the BBC story that it was linked to, which refers to a 'modest slide in the economy of 0.2% and anticipation of 'a run of several quarters marking the start of a lengthy recession', plus 'looking backwards now, it is very concerning that the UK economy remains smaller than just before the pandemic three years ago'. So, since the OP looks back only three years and refers primarily to the UK's economic growth (or lack of it) it seems that you have veered way off topic, as have I, and just about everybody else commenting here. Hoping for Happy New Year for you and everyone.

Just an ill-informed opinion which seems as confused and confusing as that of her police chief. So much for judgement.

2011

Once again you shift the goalposts, then misquote and misrepresent what I said.

Where did I say that. Are you still on the lash from last weekend?

===== These same four decades you used began with the end of a busy post-war building era, necessary to compensate for zero building through the WWII years and just after them. After that then the numbers of annual new builds were exceptionally high. The graph I posted indicates a recovery in recent years (increased house building) but that has not been enough to deal with new high demand, which is far higher than before 1997, with much of that difference due to an extra 200,000 people a year coming in to the UK, This is a major factor and should be acknowledged. Yes there has been high house price inflation, especially after 1997, all partly due to low interest rates, environmental protection laws, plus local areas resisting rising congestion. Yes, agree, lack of social (council) housing - the discounted sale of council houses to tenants worked well for many but the effect of that has dissipated and new build social housing has been inadequate

More of this go back 20 pages nonsense.

In the chart (net dwellings) below we can see an improvement after your posted cut-off at 2013. Pre 2008 (GFC) there was catch-up happening too but after that there were a few years of limited investment due to the GFC. Net immigration after 1997 rose so quickly that good planning and effective catch-up was impossible. In any event, the whole building process slowed as building permissions become more limited and longer to obtain because suitable available sites decreased in number. The tail-off at the right is due to the recent pandemic.

More like a direct result of record rises in immigration numbers since 1997. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06077/ http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06077/assets/841f882b-a72c-484f-af35-f9b98546171c.png

I assume that you mean unlike the rest of Europe? Really? https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/eus-gentolini-we-will-have-recession-this-winter-2022-12-05/

Ah, Now it's also played a role.

Ah the R word again - slyly inserted to try to win the debate by silencing the other side, no doubt. How sad, boring and wrong.

Keep that up and I'm sure your desire will be fulfilled.

Not a leek in sight!

Do this...do that.

Who's inaction?