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3 hours ago, twix38 said:

Simply no need to do this as it achieves nothing that can't be done and checked at annual renewal. 

 

A pointless additional 90 day financial check pain in the ****

Lots of things we have to do here seem pointless....but the point is really that we have to do them anyway.

3 hours ago, bannork said:

The problem is we have to export our fish to the EU, there is not enough demand at home. And if we leave with no deal, those fish will become more expensive for the EU with tariffs.

Taking back control.....https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/french-company-wins-licence-to-monitor-british-fishing-boats-5dk8wp6gr

Fisheries "monitors" are not responsible for applying tariffs and do not collect them either. The EU needs the fish and it will buy them if it has to, even if they are more expensive. Wake up and smell the fish market. 

On 12/29/2019 at 11:19 AM, bannork said:

Surely no one 'reads' The Sunday Express.

So who are you shooting at then?

18 minutes ago, candide said:

He's actually starting to address quite relevant issues.

 

Let's assume (you did not prove anything yet) you are right that a regulatory relief may be achieved post-Brexit, that can significantly reduce cost for non-exporting businesses.

Now let's consider the following example: to companies doing the same business, only one of them is exporting 30% of its production.

(1) The exporting company would likely not be able to apply two different regulations so they would have to apply costly EU regulation to both domestic and non-domestic business. By doing so they would not be competitive any more on the domestic market. They would eventually have to stop exporting.

(2) the non-exporting company has absolutely no incentive to export.

 

He is not. He is confusing something quite straightforward, as are you.

2 hours ago, Enki said:

No, they won't. How would they if they are not exporting to the EU? What damn EU regulation would be sanctioning businesses that don't export to the EU? Do you have mental problems?

All the blanket EU regulations that all businesses have to comply with, exporters or not. Mind your tongue.

1 hour ago, vogie said:

The 80 seat majority makes a lot of difference, the rump parliament we had before the election tried everything in its power to stymie our departure from the EU, members were reminding us that when they did everything to stop us leaving that was parliamentary democracy, well now we have peoples democracy in parliament, how it should be. It was no secret that the EU didn't want us to leave, even Mr Verhofstadt was campaigning for the Lib/Dems, and who said that they would revoke Art50 when Jo Swinson became PM, now that went well didn't it. Boris Johnsons majority means there will be push me pull me going on in parliament, Boris basically has carte blanche to play it his way now, and I see the phrase 'buffoon' is not used as much these days.

 

Let's hope we can all agree on a trade agreement that is satisfactory to both our respective sides, but should one side want to cut off its nose to spite its face I'm sure Boris will make the correct decision. 

 

But you do know the reason we are leaving don't you, incase you have forgot here is Peter Shore to remind us all.

 

 

Always enjoy seeing Heath the Deceitful silently seethe and cringe over by the wall - no applause from him of course.

3 hours ago, david555 said:

well devoid of any class.

 

For sure if it is U.K. related ….., nothing wrong with insulting an ridiculing a high politic  leader  from E.U. (Juncker ) than it is allowed..... once more double standards....as always....

I heard that Jean Claude was on the razz in Buakhao for his leaving do. New EU budget cuts and all that. 

4 hours ago, Leaver said:

Many only window shopping as well.  ????

Getting more like Amsterdam used to be.

1 minute ago, david555 said:

Nah just referring to the ping-pong accusations versus each both our economy's ….., likewise if remaimers or E.U. shows links they are also referred to fear mongering fake news ….. just a yes no game I was to answering , we both go loose some . one more than the other ….

Create a diversion if you like but there are plenty of references to the recent close-pass of Germany to a technical recession. They are not accusations but the results of simple economic data analysis. 

3 hours ago, david555 said:

fake news, doom and gloom ….. now to the other side …. looks like a ping pong game this returning phrase for both sides ...

fake news eh?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/14/germany-q3-gdp-2019.html

59 minutes ago, saengd said:

You trade currencies for 30 years and you don't know how to spell the word!

Not another police check!

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

So the EU red tape is the same as the UK red tape and we will still be doing the red tape after Brexit?

Not the same at all. EU tape is sticky and OTT.

21 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

Even if we get a deal done by next December, aren't we still paying into the EU for the next 4-5 years on the current deal?

 

Something horrible like that.

3 minutes ago, samran said:

Aw shucks. If I go out a bash up a darkie and can I join the gang? 

Dunno.

1 hour ago, candide said:

Ok so It's about health and safety, after all!

 

I don't deny the fact that regulations are more of a problem for SMEs than for big firms. My point is: would it be significantly different after Brexit? These regulations reflect trends affecting all developed countries and demands by their citizens.

 

Additionally, as usual, you wrongly assume that European bureaucrats are not able to listen to relevant claims by SMEs or others. Actually, they do take these claims into  Let's see what I found:

"The SME Circle succeeded in exempting companies from the obligation to register with the competent authorities when transporting less than two tonnes of hazardous waste per year. It is small and medium-sized enterprises especially that work in the craft industry, for example, and use oil rags for cleaning purposes. Without the exemption, the oil rags could have been considered a hazardous substance and the obligation to register would have disproportionately affected these businesses, which account for 2/3 of total employment in the EU."

 

"Another accomplishment in support of SMEs is the increased threshold for reporting duties under the EU Emission Trading System (ETS). Less stringent monitoring and reporting requirements now apply for small emitters who put out less than or up to 50,000 tonnes of CO². Around 13,500 companies will benefit from these rules by not having to employ additional staff."

 

https://www.eppgroup.eu/newsroom/news/sme-circle-delivering-tangible-benefits-for-europe-s-small-businesses

It's about red tape. Good health and safety protection is expensive and unnecessary regulation adds additional cost.

It can be significantly different after Brexit if regulations are applied sensibly. 

I did not say or assume that European bureaucrats are not able to listen but your examples of exemptions are specific but too few, too far between and do not alter the costs much for most British SMEs.