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1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yes they are.

 

I'm glad you finally got there. 

I don’t necessarily agree to call that “hoarding”, but then I don’t understand why you’re getting so obsessed about EU countries doing what the UK and other countries are doing. 

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

OK it appears this is a language issue, maybe English isn't your first language. No problem. Allow me to help.

 

If you want to apply that definition, then the UK and the US are also “hoarding”, and many (all?) other countries as well, as they are all collecting large amounts of vaccines and keep it it for themselves. 
 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

This is getting a bit weird. Have you read the title of the thread?

 

Here is the evidence. The clue is in the headline.

 

There’s no evidence for the EU or France hoarding anything. 
 

If you want to go back and change your claim to “EU may extend export controls” then we can agree. 

27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

His statement that the AZ vaccine was quasi-ineffective was false.

 

It was a false argument.

That wasn’t what you claimed initially. 
 

27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Now they are restricting export, or hoarding what they have.

No, France isn’t restricting exports or hoarding anything. 
 

27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

How embarrassing. Can't get away from the facts.

You’re the one who’s been making false statements. 

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

They have extended export controls. That is the topic of the thread.

 

You are gaslighting now. 

 

What a mess the EU has made that your only defense is to gaslight. How embarrassing.

You’re the one who’s been making false statements about Macron bashing the UK (he didn’t) and the EU restricting exports (it didn’t). Not me. So keep the “gaslighting” for yourself. 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You wish it was.????

 

The reason for the EU having a vaccine shortage and therefore having to restrict exports to Australia is very much on topic, even if you hate to hear it. Bit embarrassing huh.

The EU isn’t restricting exports. 
 

And the reason for the “shortages” (however you came up with that) is because a supplier is breaking their contractual obligations. 

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Time you did some homework. You can read what he said about the AZ vaccine and how accurate it was here.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/55919245

 

And here's Germany's U turn.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/germany-changes-guidance-and-recommends-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-for-over-65s-12235622

 

And the BBC's take on the reasons.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56252028

 

 

Again, off topic. Start replying to what I wrote instead of engaging in your Brexit fanatism. 

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Always amazing how quickly the Europhiles revert back to the concept of the nation state when the EU poop hits the fan ????.

 

It’s called sticking to facts. Something unfamiliar to Brexiteers. 

1 hour ago, topt said:

I have no idea of the real specific details but according to what you quoted above at least it was written into the original UK contract presumably signed last year some time. 

So was it written in the EU contract that a certain amount would be supplied. This is AZ’s problem of overpromising without having enough capacity. 

23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

What people have a problem with is leaders like Macron rubbishing the AZ vaccine one minute and then hoarding it the next. This is not a game. Trying to score political points against the UK using false arguments about life saving vaccines that may actually deter people taking the vaccine is not acceptable.

Macron hasn’t been “hoarding” nor has he been “against the UK using false arguments”. You need to let go of your Brexit fanatism. 

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Project 'unvaccinated fear' starts.

Most people will get vaccinated eventually, and the few anti-vaxxers will have to stay home and watch more Qanon. So not much to fear about. 

28 minutes ago, smedly said:

 

try offering them the correct fare for your journey or what a Thai passenger would pay and see how well that goes - if you think paying 50baht to go 1km is ok when it should be 25baht then that is up to you

I rarely negotiate a fare upfront (only for longer distances). I either just pay what I deem appropriate upon arrival, which is based on my experience and talking to and observing locals, or I politely ask what it costs afterwards. Quite often, the motorbike driver would then ask what I normally pay for this route, at which point I either propose something I deem appropriate or tell him that I don’t come there often.
 

Maybe I’m vastly overpaying and that’s why I never had an issue with that approach, but the few fares I asked Thai colleagues to comment on seemed reasonable to them (20 Baht for 900m every morning to work; 30 Baht for 1.6km from my old condo; 60 Baht for 4km every other day to my gym). To be honest though, in the situations where they ask for 10-20 Baht more, it would feel petty to negotiate over such a small amount with someone who makes a fraction of what I have, even if I honk that a local may pay 10 Baht less. What do you counter-offer to a 10 Baht difference? “No, but I’ll go give you 5”? Live and let live. 
 

43 minutes ago, rcuthbert said:

I like the Thais (the exception being the Insomnia bouncers.) because if you treat them with respect - they will reciprocate.

I can agree to this one. Never had an issue with any Thai whatsoever, certainly not with motorbike drivers, and certainly not being attacked violently. I think the only two Thais I actually had an issue with were girls who didn’t wanna leave.