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3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

It's not over yet, they've just asked for 2 more months to ratify the deal. 

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-gives-eu-extra-time-to-ratify-brexit-trade-deal/

 

Apparently the hapless EU are about as efficient at translating documents as they are at procuring and administering vaccines.????

 

It’s called thoroughness. We know that’s a concept unknown to people who only months later understand what they actually signed there (and then try to fix the situation by attempting to break their agreements) ????  

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

When the chips are really down, the nation member states within the EU drop the charade and look after themselves with little regard for the other EU states. 

Brexiteer: Claims EU member states aren’t sovereign and can’t decide unilaterally.  

Also Brexiteer: Admits EU member states decide unilaterally as sovereign states. 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

A bit like the mask hording fiasco last year.  (...) Maybe a more effective vaccine procurement strategy would have helped?

Brexiteer: EU member states procuring alone is a fiasco. 

Also Brexiteer: EU members states should not procure together. 

???? 

6 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Not realeasing his tax returns may well have been the ultimate President Trump troll!

So the former so-called president is either a pubescent teenager or has to hide something. 

1 hour ago, wadman said:

I have a Facebook account.  But it's a cery barebones account.  I have never entered personal information on it, so Facebook doesn't have it. 

How can you be so sure about that? 
 

1 hour ago, wadman said:

You don't want people to see your personal info on Facebook, don't post it.  Your choice.  It really is that simple.

No, you are wrong. 

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

Neither does Facebook unless I choose to give it to them.

No, you are wrong here: 

1) At least your clear name is mandatorily required to join Facebook. 
2) And even for the other data,...

2a) you would not only have to make sure to use Facebook in a plain web browser on a device where no Facebook app, Facebook messenger, WhatsApp, and Instagram are installed, ideally even on a completely separate device that has a completely separate browser going through something like TOR or at least a VPN; 

2b) you would also have to make sure that no other person, at least or especially not your friends have WhatsApp etc. installed or share something about you through other means. 
 

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

But as already said; anyone who doesn't trust Facebook, or another social media doesn't have to join. Membership is not compulsory!

Even that is not true. The moment someone else on this planet installs WhatsApp on their phone, for example, their address book gets uploaded and Facebook automatically creates an account for you if you are in that address book and don’t have an account yet. That’s how you get all those creepily accurate “Don’t you know this person” suggestions. 
 

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

Anyone whose already joined and wants to leave is free to do so.

I doubt Facebook deletes your data permanently, and prevents what I mentioned in the previous paragraph. Maybe if you’re living in the EU, but even there I wouldn’t be too sure. 
 

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

Anyone who is paranoid enough to believe that Facebook can somehow collect information about them that they haven't volunteered should leave and change that information.

See above. Some of that information is out of your control as it is on other people’s devices and shared from there. And even for your own devices you would have to go to great lengths to prevent any leaks, something that 99.9% of users aren’t capable of. 

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

All very similar, and also very similar to most (all?) other social media.

TVF doesn’t have your clear name, DOB, phone number, address book, biometrical data, likes, and location data, and those of your friends and their friends. TVF also doesn’t have the technology and resources to collect and use such data. TVF doesn’t even have an app. 
 

It’s really a lame comparison. 
 

26 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

It is not the making of a profit that is the problem, It is the actual profit margin, probably more than 500%.

What’s the correct profit margin then? 
 

26 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

It is people getting rich because of a world pandemic.

What’s the problem with people getting rich? I rather have a vaccine and people getting rich than no vaccine and people half rich. 

17 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

You Dems. are trying everything to stop him from running in 2024.What next are you going to hit him over the head with the kitchen sink?

Imagine “potentially running for president in future” would give individuals immunity against being investigated and prosecuted. All those small and big frauds like Trump would have the time of their life. 

15 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

Again, your choice.

 

No one is forced to join, no one who has joined is prevented from leaving.

The question here is what “to join” means, I.e. Facebook automatically taking my phone number, email address, name and other data and putting it in their database vs. me adding a password to that data and accessing the Facebook platform with it. You don’t have a choice over the first one even though your  personal data joined Facebook. You’re just not using that account but let Facebook use it alone. One could argue you already joined Facebook. 
 

1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said:

Basically you are agreeing with what I said. You are just twisting it you make it sound better for you.

If you are implying that Scotland may unilaterally leave the UK same as the UK left the EU, no matter whether and what deal is being negotiated, then I am agreeing with what you said. 
 

1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said:

To confirm, the EU did have a say. There were deals negotiated, a no deal was indeed part of those negotiations, so therefore EU did have a say. They also had a say on the timeframes.

The UK didn’t have to agree to any of that. So, again, if that is what you demand for Scotland vs. UK, i.e. that both of them can negotiate and agree on timeline and other aspects, but that Scotland is also free to leave that negotiating table without any such deals as and when they wish, then we can agree on that. 
 

1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said:

I was replying to those on here that keep insisting that it is up to Scotland alone and nothing to do with the rest of the UK.

It should be up to Scotland alone, same as it was up to the UK alone when it left the EU. 

2 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Ah, but the differences are that: 1) the EU was not a nation in its own right (despite the grandstanding in certain quarters) whereas the United Kingdom is a nation, with it's own parliament and government, and 2) the UK's membership of the UK, and it's right to withdraw were enshrined in a treaty. Scotland's membership of the UK is not.

Not that I think any of that makes a difference, but tell it to the guy I was replying to, as he was comparing Scotland leaving the UK with the UK leaving the EU. 

9 minutes ago, donnacha said:

You must have noticed the big kerfuffle earlier this month when it became clear that the pharma companies wanted to delivery shipments in the same order that they were purchasing, meaning the EU's three-month delay meant being three months behind the UK.

And I want to own Montenegro. 

1 minute ago, donnacha said:

The one Euro saving per shot is truly bewildering

Where does this amount come from? I thought the commercial terms of the contracts were all confidential (see AZ contract)...

1 minute ago, donnacha said:

Of course, other EU countries may have been even less organized than the EU.

Most EU countries and their citizens don’t have the clout to get in front of the queue and negotiate a lower price and other favorable conditions that were negotiated through the joint procurement programme. 

23 minutes ago, Ebumbu said:

 

It's an MNRA vaccine, which is new tech. It doesn't work like previous vaccines. It's not the hair of the dog that bit you. 

 

See my reply above. She’s most likely not allergic to the vaccine agent, but other common vaccine components such as egg protein, Gelatine, yeast, etc. 

8 minutes ago, donnacha said:

I think Europe got the best deal because, after ordering all their member countries to not make their own arrangements, they negotiated for 3 months to achieve a one Euro discount. This was a massive victory, highlighting the advantages of a federal Europe. Unfortunately, they are also now at the back of the queue and, so far, have vaccinated only 5% of their population.

Most EU citizens and counties actually moved up the queue thanks to the EU Programme. 

29 minutes ago, BadSpottedDog said:

Gardasil and chicken pox vax. Apparently there is a common ingredient in all vaccines that she is most likely allergic to. According to the doctor. Her injuries are permanent (she still has episodes) .... so no more.

Sorry to hear that. Based on what you wrote, she doesn’t seem to be allergic to the vaccine agent, but to other common vaccine components like egg protein, Gelatine, yeast etc. Were doctors able to find out what component exactly is causing her an allergic reaction, to see whether a different product may work or having it being administered by an allergist? 

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Cost of vaccine is $5 in Europe, South Africa made a big to-do about them being charged more ($7) than Europe.

Which one? And what does the cost include? Just the production or also margin and things like transportation, storage and administering? 

26 minutes ago, BadSpottedDog said:

And what happens to people like my daughter, that have serious adverse reactions to vaccines?

What Covid vaccine did she a serious adverse reaction to? I thought the vaccinations aren’t available here yet?