12 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

Well if you can't work that out for yourself,  I see no point in informing you. 

You claimed you have accomplished so much “on the continent”. Are you just another bag of hot air shouting from his barstool in Pattaya? 

8 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

I am also pretty sure over that it´s safe to say that I have invested more capital and made more gains than you, if you are not in the division of more than 8 zeros.

So you’re trying to prove now that even rich (?) people sometimes don’t have a clue about certain words?  

8 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

You see, I simply don´t have time with boring and useless things like Facebook. it´s enough with the brain damage I get on a daliy basis from this forum.

Maybe that’s why it’s so challenging for you to use the correct terms. 

1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said:

I know how many you want. If the next one were to result in a "leave" vote, one would be enough.

 

If the next vote was "remain", you would want another and another and another..........until you got the result you wanted.

That’s up to the Scottish to decide. Not me or you. 

11 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

That's what the argument is about!

 

At the moment Westminster is sovereign, not Holyrood as you seem to infer.

Exactly. As an EU member, the UK was a sovereign state that could freely decide when and how to leave. It doesn’t grant the same sovereignty to its own members. that’s what the argument is about. That Scotland and the Scottish people should be able to decide their fate themselves, but the UK wouldn’t let them. 

8 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

You see, it was something based on your personal preferenses. You are corrrecting the rest, because you have decided that crypto currencies do not fall inside your world of things called investments. Thank you for finally post the truth! No more discussion needed.

I haven’t decided anything. I am educating you using the correct technical terms. You’re embarrassing yourself by incorrectly using words you don’t understand. That’s a common problem with all the keyboard experts of the generation Facebook, so you’re not alone. 
 

1 hour ago, Pilotman said:

Most of what is quoted about longer lasting negative  impacts of being outside the EU trading block are pure fabrication, mostly because the UK will continue to trade extensively with the EU. but with far more other trade options  and opportunities available for both import and export. 

Please provide some numbers backing up the “far more other trade options and opportunities”: According to the Department for International Trade, 49% of your trade was with the EU, and 40% with countries with EU trade agreements. How does the remaining 10% provide so much “options and opportunities” that it would justify hurting the 90%? 

5 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

As I said, you are badly informed and not updated.

Update? Words don’t update. 
 

5 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

Maybe you are in the old guard that trust the paper money. Good Luck! Just read up on things instead of bothering me more.

“read up” people using words incorrectly so I can adopt their rhetorical clumsiness and call that an “update” from “the old guard”? ???? 

40 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

Sorry, You can say what ever you want based on your preferenses for the definition of investments. The fact is that the investment world today sees crypto currency as an investment opportunity. One that they consider very volatile, but still put in the box called investments.
Hence they recommend a small percentage of your investment portfolio to be placed in crypto currencies.

“the investment world”  ???? 

Your clumsiness with these words underlines that you don’t understand there’s a difference and it’s not all the same just because it involves putting your money somewhere. 

40 minutes ago, vogie said:

Scottish referendum: Scotland votes 'No' to independence

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-29270441

And now they want to vote again on independence. That’s the thing with being the sovereign in a democracy: it’s not a one-time event but something you enjoy forever. 

1 minute ago, vogie said:

We don't live in a neverendum country, the Scots have decided and to put the tin hat on it, their leaders and deputy leaders stated it would be "a once in a lifetime opportunity" so knock me down with a feather Trevor.

Like I said, that’s up to the Scottish people to decide, not for the British, same as no EU country told you that you “don’t live in a neverendum country”. 
 

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I was assuming you knew the difference between general elections and 'one off' or 'once in a generation'  Referendums.

The difference is where the sovereign draws the line. That’s not you but the Scottish people. 

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

It's not really practical to have votes on issues such leaving the EU and rejoining the EU every 4 years. Otherwise we might have voted to rejoin the EU before we'd actually left. If the vote kept swinging one way then the other, then it wouldn't be possible to leave and rejoin the EU every 5 years.

It’s also not really practical to leave the EU. You still did it ???? 

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

That's why they tend to happen once in a generation, coincidentally exactly as stated by the Scottish government in it's white paper prior to the vote on Scottish Independence.

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_second_Scottish_independence_referendum#:~:text=Ahead of that referendum%2C the,better direction for our nation".

 

And Theresa May’s government said there wouldn’t be a border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK, yet now there is. Current government are elected by current populaces to represent their current wishes, I’m afraid, and they don’t need to feel bound to what past governments said. 

11 minutes ago, vogie said:

If you supported the Scots and not the SNP you would realise that the Scots have had a referendum and they were very content to remain in our union.

If you supported the Scots, you would let them decide themselves how many referendums they want to have. 
 

11 minutes ago, vogie said:

That's the way the cookie crumbles I'm afraid, you can please some of the people some of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all of the time, it is what it is, it is a done deal, c'est la vie.????

That’s what your imperialistic British attitude wishes. Let’s see what reality brings. 
 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Well I would argue that as a UK citizen it is partly about me since it affects my country.

I guess some Polish or Italians would have argued the same when it came to the UK voting about something that affected the EU. 
 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I am just saying the vote should be respected and not re-run every time something changes such as Brexit, Covid, a change in government, a particularly cold winter or whatever asinine reasons the losing side dreams up. 

You’re entitled to have that opinion. All I’m saying is that it’s up to the Scottish to decide whether they agree with your opinion or whether they want to decide themselves when and how often to vote on a matter. 
 

And it’s really not that scandalous to disagree with you. Imagine Boris said he will remain in power for 40 years because “the vote should be respected and not re-run every time something changes”.

33 minutes ago, vogie said:

So do you support Scottish Nationalism, yes or no?

No, I don’t. It’s nothing I’m interested in or have much knowledge about. 
 

I do support the sovereignty of the Scottish people, same as the British claimed theirs when they had another referendum without other EU countries shouting “no, you can’t.”

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Nonsense. 

 

It's like saying they had a vote on leaving Pre-Covid UK, now they want a vote on leaving Post-Covid UK. A vapid argument which only highlights your desperation to legitimize running the vote again because you didn't like the result the first time.

This is not about me. Like it is not about you. That’s your problem. You want to impose your opinion on the Scottish. Unfortunately it’s their business, so yes, if they want to vote pre- and post-Covid that’s also up to them, same as it was up to the U.K. to have as many referendums as they like. 

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

What are you talking about? We didn't have a referendum on leaving the EU every 4 years. We had one to join the EEC in 1975 and one to leave the EU in 2016, 41 years later.

There you go. The Scottish had a referendum on remaining part of the EU member UK, and they now want a referendum on leaving the non-EU member UK. 
 

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I'd be happy to adhere to such a precedent and give Scotland another vote to leave in 2055. 

It doesn’t matter what you would be happy to do. 

3 minutes ago, vogie said:

You are supporting the Nationalist party and not the Scots

Wrong. 
 

3 minutes ago, vogie said:

and we don't have to look too far back in history to realise the impact that nationalism can have on Europe never mind Scotland.

You Brexiteers really love those WWII references. 

23 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Neither can you keep running Referendums every time the wind changes direction, simply because you lost.

Of course you can. You do it every four years and you did it with your EU membership. When you claim “you cannot” what you actually want to say is “we don’t want you to”. 
 

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You had your chance and you blew it. With the SNP self destructing and the advantages of Brexit being seen so clearly with the vaccine rollout, I'd say you've missed the boat. Maybe better to accept it and drop this folly of an isolationist Scotland.

I love how arrogantly delusional you Brexiteers are. If “the advantages of Brexit” weren’t so poor you wouldn’t be so afraid to let the Scottish people vote as they wish. You can see your little England fall apart and that’s why you need to force your fleeing member states in ???? 

54 minutes ago, vogie said:

Well do you support nasty Nationalism or not, or is it a case that you think that Nationalism is the lesser of the two evils if we include the English?

As I wrote above: I support the Scottish people in their cause same as the British people had their Brexit vote. If you consider that “nasty Nationalism” then I guess we both support nasty Nationalism according to your definition. 

4 hours ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

I think that even Warren Buffet disagrees with you there.

Then you don’t know much about Warren Buffet. 
 

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You also have numerous books regarding getting rich concepts, investment guides and much more. In thoose almost all investment plans include an investment, as described, in crypto currencies between 3-10% of your total invetsment capital. How do you explain that?

Also, that I am a living proof on that it´s a good investment. How do you explain that?

You’re confusing gambling wins with investing. 

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What you are doing, is taking you own preferences regarding what you see as investments or not. After that you are telling others that it is no investment, and only gambling, based on your persoal preferences. Since when where you appionted to establish a false fact like you just did?

Being precise with one’s use of words has nothing to do with preferences or false facts. It just shows that you don’t know the difference between investing, trading, speculating, and gambling. You could as well call an elephant a spaghetti because that’s your preference. 
 

25 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

Utter nonsense. There is a whole world outside that don't give a monkeys about the EU and its delusions of grandeur. 

And what makes you think it gives a monkeys about the UK?