floridaguy

You mean these? They are to make your race bike go faster

ok, so I am keeping the 150 2-stroke engine on the bike. thanks to all of you for your advice to leave it as is.

Now, I want to make it look meaner and most importantly to sound meaner.

Same advice: leave it as it is. No posturing, please. Thailand has enough noise already. Besides, people turn around to see it's only a Phantom, they're just gonna laugh.

About the only thing that would be halfway cool, if you've just go to do something, is to give it a rat bike paint job. Some examples here: http://www.ratbike.o...es/07ace13.htm. The Keeway (happened to see one, once, in Pattaya) comes in flat black and looks pretty good for what it is.

Here is my old Phantom TA200. It was orange when I bought it. Raked out a little on the front end, stock tank and exhaust, 180 rear tire.

The paint job I did myself, a mix of flat and glossy black. This is what it looked like 2 days before I sold it.

Ok, so I have noticed for a few weeks since I read about it in the newspapers that there have not been ANY police stops on Sukhumvit at the On Nut BTS. I posted in another thread that for the last several months they were there almost daily, at least 4-5 times per week. For the last few weeks, none! BUT....I noticed something curious over the last several days. During rush hour between 4pm-7pm, while out directing traffic, they are nabbing a few cars and motorbikes. I stood and watched for about 15 minutes, and they grabbed about 3 motorbikes and 5 trucks with construction workers in the back. Much less than a police stop, but they are getting creative in making a few stops for obvious infractions. Certainly better than before, and I can live with them stopping the cars/motorbikes that are actually visibly violating a traffic law, and not randomly stopping us and then making up a violation. Great days ahead for those of us who regularly drive cars and motorcycles through Bangkok.

Well I can confirm that the speed restriction is gone. Also, before it would pull very slowly from 180 up to hitting the wall at 200, then the restriction would fully kick in and it would buck like a preacher's daughter. Now, it pulls hard all the way past 200, screaming up to red line. I hit 200 in 5th gear without realizing I still had another gear to go! I had to back off after that, so didn't hit top speed. Also, the speedo stops at 200, so I will have to use the GPS on my phone or Dynolicious to check top speed. OK, bad boy, no more of that!

That's strange, i could swear that my NC30's speedo maxed out at 180kmh, are you sure your speedo is from a NC30??

200kmh with ease and with another gear to go seems very impressive indeed, mine would clear the 180kmh notch on the speedo but i haven't seen an NC30 with 200 on the tacho, unless it's had a new face/sticker laid on it??

Yeah, you are right, it stops at 190. Here is a photo. Definitely an NC30 speedo. If you look, there is another line indicating 190, and then 200 is somewhere just after "km/h" mark. I was beyond that in 5th gear. I wouldn't have thought that was possible either. Tomorrow I will be able to test it out with my phone GPS.

Well I can confirm that the speed restriction is gone. Also, before it would pull very slowly from 180 up to hitting the wall at 200, then the restriction would fully kick in and it would buck like a preacher's daughter. Now, it pulls hard all the way past 200, screaming up to red line. I hit 200 in 5th gear without realizing I still had another gear to go! I had to back off after that, so didn't hit top speed. Also, the speedo stops at 200, so I will have to use the GPS on my phone or Dynolicious to check top speed. OK, bad boy, no more of that!

Well I took apart the speedometer and removed the small metal plate to derestrict the bike. I have hit the limit at 200 kph a few times now, so I decided to take it apart tonight while watching a movie. I almost flubbed it. I first tried bending it back upon itself to keep it from traveling through the pickups as the needle reaches 180, but the needle wouldn't spin freely and it was hitting the really fragile spring inside. I thought I ruined it. But, I noticed that the plate is only held down by small metal tabs, so I just pried up on it and it popped right off! So, tomorrow I will pop the unit back on the bike and verify all works as intended.

Here is the small plate that I removed. I left the PCB board in so that the bike wouldn't enter into limp home mode.

Anyone know what kind of fuel economy I should be getting? I am only getting about 170-190 kilometers per tank before I have to switch to the reserve. I only use 91 benzine. I know I am pretty heavy on the throttle, and normally cruising speed on the motorway is 140-160 depending on conditions, but I should be getting more than that shouldn't I?

New spark plugs just arrived from Japan yesterday, so I will be changing those out tomorrow, so that may help, but it won't make that much of a difference.

I use to restore NSR 150's in my spare time,but the pickings are getting slim these days. I love painting bikes and bringing them back from the dead, although some just refuse to be fully resurrected !

I also love to restore things and pass them on to someone who may never even have considered the item before restoration. I used to refurb old beat up houses in the US, and most of my buyers told me they would never have bought the house when looking at the before pictures, even at the bargain price. You just have to have vision. I can take an old beat up motorcycle, refurb the parts and replace some small items, then put updated fairings on and repaint the whole deal and make it look like a brand new bike. Thai people really like new things, and when they look at some of the bikes I have redone, they can't believe how old the bike is and that it can look so new. They also say they would never have considered buying the bike as it was, but are buying the bike after the refurb. Feels good to put old things back to good use.

Here is a photo of the NC30 I missed out on a couple of weeks ago. I love the clean lines of the underseat exhaust on the CBR600RR seat fairing. He was asking less than what I paid for mine! Arghh

Having read this thread it would seem these are very good deals.

Even compared to say a ninja 250 the price versus performance would

suggest these are good values.

Are they pretty comfortable for average height 5'8" folks or

are they a bit cramped?

The 250's don't compare for performance in terms of speed and handling. And they are almost 2 times the price. But, the 250's are a more comfortable ride, as they are set up more for touring.

I am 5'6" and can put both feet down flat, so you may want to raise it up a bit for you. Also, the rearsets are a bit low for me, so they would give plenty of room for someone your height. I plan on replacing the rearsets and bringing them up and maybe forward, as I am so short. The ride height is good for me, and I like being able to put both feet down flat at these long Bangkok lights.

nice work ! I hope to work on a similar project when i get back to LOS.

This might become my new hobby. I have my eye on 2 or 3 more of these bikes for sale.

Not too sure about that blue pilion seat mounted exhaust in the very last picture you posted.... 555

Just getting ready for the floods!

Thanks for all the kind words. What do you think of the colors? I really like black and red, and I really like matte black, but I am thinking that it looks a little boring. What are some ideas to change things up a little? Just subtle changes really. I was thinking of a red tank breather tube, red rim tape (I usually hate rim tape, but I thought I might try it), and possibly experimenting with glossy black graphics on the tank and/or fairings. What do you think?

Well, i just left the bike at Road machine on 3rd rd and told Chati what color i want.

He sent the tank etc away for a week, and it was just beautiful when the stuff came back.

It wasnt expensive either IMO, and later on when someone scratched the tank,

i left it at rd machine again and had some nice art made on the tank, again not expensive IMO

How much for each piece?

Doesn't the Harley place on Theparasit road do customs? They should be able to get it done for you. Single colors are a piece of cake.

It has been awhile, so thought I would update.

I replaced a few things on the bike and solved my overheating problem. New red seats for 250 baht installed in 30 minutes. So I thought I would take a ride down to Rayong and hang out at the beaches down there for a weekend. On the way back last Sunday, I drove up through Pattaya and was reminded why I hate driving in Pattaya, by motorcyle or truck. Some idiot turned in front of me with no indicator lights. I slammed on my brakes, stopped just as I hit his tire, and the bike fell over. Broke my clutch lever, rear foot rest/brake, right side mirror, and scuffed the paint up on all the fairings and the engine cover. Luckily, I was not hurt. He of course denied fault.

Anyway, long story short I ended up fixing the bike myself and here are the photos of the damage.

After removing all the fairings. I almost like the street fighter look.

So I loaded up the bike and headed out to my brother's house in Kanchanaburi so that I could use his garage. I decided that since I needed to paint all the fairings, I might as well paint the frame. I never liked the shiny silver color of the fame with the black of the bike. So I completely removed all the fairings, filled in all the small dings and dents and cracks and scuffs with body filler, then scuffed all the paint to promote paint adhesion, sanded the filler smooth, and wiped all down with alcohol. I also scuffed up the engine cover and frame, front lower forks, some various small parts such as the gas tank breather cover, front fork brackets, bike stand, and gear selector connecting rod.

Here is my home made paint shop. I was careful to wipe and sweep all dust away. I sealed all windows and doors to keep airflow to a minimum to reduce dust. I wore a mask to keep paint out of my eyes and from breathing the fumes. All sanded, prepped, taped, and hung and ready for paint.

After painting and before assembly. I like the black shiny frame and forks contrasting with the matte black of the rest of the bike.

Completed bike with new side mirrors with built in indicators.

I tore down the bike on Friday night about 1 hour.

Prep on Saturday along with building the paint booth took approximately 6 hours. As they say, the devil is in the details. I was very careful on sanding to make it smoth and blemish free. Also, the taping took a couple of hours, as I did not want any overspray.

I applied 4 coats of paint Saturday night, completing about 4AM. Approximately 2 hours.

Sunday morning I applied 4 more coats of paint, 2 hours.

Assembly Sunday afternoon took about 2 hours, being careful with the new paint. Also, I lost a few screws (actual, not in my head!). Where do those little buggers go?

Test drive took 1 hour. Scared the heck out of the villagers zipping through the rice fields. I wanted to get the bike up to operating temperature and check the hi-temp paint I used on the engine housing to make sure it stayed on.

The bike looks great, really some subtle differences from when I bought it make a huge impression on me. Now I think I will change the rear sets, and the clutch/brake levers to something fold able and maybe shorties. Also, frame sliders are high on my list, along with a new tank protector.

How does one leave with the Thai passport. Assuming the UK passport was still stamped in by the system?

Get both stamped out on the exit ?? Then return with the Thai passport ??

You don't use the UK PP on entering Thailand, if you have dual Nationality.

No. What i mean is. For example. The OP has a Thai passport now. Assuming he entered with the UK Passport. He got his passport in Thai currently. On Exit, surely he have to leave with his UK PP.

When he return to Thailand. There is no exit stamp in his new Thai passport?

I had some small problems re-entering Thailand on my Thai passport because it did not have an exit stamp from the US. I used my US passport to leave Thailand because I had entered on my US passport, so needed to remove myself as a visiting American. When I left the US on returning, I used the US passport (which they don't stamp on exit or entry) and arrived at BKK using my Thai passport, with no entry or exit stamps (it was brand new). This caused some confusion, so I did show both passports, spoke to a supervisor, and she stamped me in and wrote a note in Thai that explained that it was a new passport. Subsequent trips should not cause any confusions.

So to the OP, your first trip you may have some issues, just be prepared to show both passports upon re-entry and explain your situation.

As for land crossing, I tried to do the same thing first by land to Cambodia, and was unsuccessful. The border agents told me that land crossings are a little more suspect as to the validity of the passport, and recommended that I fly anywhere and upon return show my Thai passport for re-entry and all should be well. Turned out to be good advice.

Showing a Thai DL indicates that you are a resident, and although it is not always given, it tends to get you the Thai price. It also helps if you can read the signs that indicate the different prices, where the numbers are often written in traditional Thai script and not romanized numbers. Asking for the Thai price and having the DL shows you are not just a tourist.

I live in Bangkok and often see highly customized scooters around. Many of them have things like custom exhaust, rear suspension springs, narrow rear-view mirrors and so on.

I'm sure there are shops which sell all that stuff. Do you know any of them? Are there any with English-speaking personnel?

Also, I saw PCXs painted in non-stock colors, like yellow or green. And the quality was quite good, almost like stock colors. Do you know places or people who could paint plastic like that?

Sumet cycles. Nonthaburi for mild custom work. The manager Brian speaks American I suppose that's close to English speaking

Many hole in the wall bike shops for extreme stuff

sent from my Wellcom A90+

Actually, he speaks Canadian, which is equally gibberish

To the OP, try this place, they have all you asked for. I have bought several items from them. If you ask them they can arrange install for you, often at no charge. They speak English pretty well and you can order by phone or online and they will ship anywhere in Thailand. Getting there isn't the easiest, as there are alot of one-ways and alot of construction right now, but not too bad. Their prices are great, good quality, they have some Alpine Stars and Bilmola and much more. They just bought out www.helmet4you.com out of Chiang Mai, so much more stock available online.

http://auto2speed.com/

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make sure you delete them on all devices that you have attached to your itunes account and also from itunes. then sync and see if it clears up. if any device or computer running itunes still has that app, it will redownload it to all of them again.

So, faster than expected, here is a first draft translation of relevant sections of the latest amendments to the Traffic Act. There is now specific language to control where bikes should be...

33 - While driving, drivers are obliged to keep to the left and not cross the centre divide except for the following exceptions:

1) That lane is blocked or closed to traffic

2) A traffic official assigns a single lane as the only lane to be used

(i.e., police check-point)

3) The road is less than 6 meters wide

34 - In driving on roads divided into 2 lanes or more of the same direction, or where there is a bus lane in the left-most lane, drivers are obliged to keep to the left lane, or the lane next to the bus lane except for the following cases where driving in a lane to the right (of the left lane) is permissible:

1) That lane is blocked or closed to traffic

2) A traffic official assigns a single lane as the only lane to be used

(i.e., police check-point)

3) The driver must enter the correct lane when approaching a junction

4) When overtaking another vehicle

5) When the driver is driving faster than vehicles in the left lane(s)

35 - Drivers of slow vehicles or vehicles driving slower than other vehicles must keep as far to the left as possible.

On roads divided into more than 2 lanes or with bus lanes, drivers of haulage vehicles or passenger vans or buses and

riders of motorcycles

must drive in the left-most lane or lane adjacent to the bus lane depending on the situation.

The second paragraph does not apply to passenger cars weighing less than 1,600 KG or cars with seating capacity over 7 seats in accordance with laws for passenger cars.

I would argue that overtaking on a bike in a multi-lane road is permissible. I conclude this because para 3 of 35 actively states an exception by vehicle type. No such exception to the right to overtake in a righthand lane is stated in clause 34. I however believe this is ambiguous; clause 34 states all vehicles can use non-left lanes in the case of 5 exceptions, but clause 35 states bikes must stay left without any exceptions either way.

I think I will go see my local cop boss and see what he has to say. The same guy told me what the rules about trailers are 2 years back...

Can you provide the Thai and English together? I would love to print this out to keep with me to show the cop the next time I get stopped for this, as I tend NOT to stay to the left.

hey man, do you think the cop will listen to you once they stop you? you made me laugh man. hahaha.

Anyway, you have to pay 50 - 100 thb with or without book haha. Not to mention the availability of a cop who can speak English.

Well I speak enough Thai, so that is not usually the problem. I have had a couple of cops ask ME to show them in the law books (like I carry those around!) when I try to tell them the law does not apply to some situation or what have you. I am sure it wouldn't help the situation, actually pulling out some pages from the traffic laws, but I tend to stand and debate with the cops anyway when I get stopped, which also isn't helping. The reason I wanted it is because I had a cop pull out his copy of the book and it was so old that I thought that some of those laws probably have been changed, and having an updated copy to compare to his would REALLY not help, but would certainly add to his frustration of having someone argue with him about some silly 100 baht bribe. I usually don't pay bribes, and the next time that cop sees me, he may remember that and just wave me by, figuring "why bother with that cheap charlie?"

I might try to make it. I would just take my usual route under the Bang Na motorway from my place near the On Nut BTS.

So, faster than expected, here is a first draft translation of relevant sections of the latest amendments to the Traffic Act. There is now specific language to control where bikes should be...

33 - While driving, drivers are obliged to keep to the left and not cross the centre divide except for the following exceptions:

1) That lane is blocked or closed to traffic

2) A traffic official assigns a single lane as the only lane to be used

(i.e., police check-point)

3) The road is less than 6 meters wide

34 - In driving on roads divided into 2 lanes or more of the same direction, or where there is a bus lane in the left-most lane, drivers are obliged to keep to the left lane, or the lane next to the bus lane except for the following cases where driving in a lane to the right (of the left lane) is permissible:

1) That lane is blocked or closed to traffic

2) A traffic official assigns a single lane as the only lane to be used

(i.e., police check-point)

3) The driver must enter the correct lane when approaching a junction

4) When overtaking another vehicle

5) When the driver is driving faster than vehicles in the left lane(s)

35 - Drivers of slow vehicles or vehicles driving slower than other vehicles must keep as far to the left as possible.

On roads divided into more than 2 lanes or with bus lanes, drivers of haulage vehicles or passenger vans or buses and

riders of motorcycles

must drive in the left-most lane or lane adjacent to the bus lane depending on the situation.

The second paragraph does not apply to passenger cars weighing less than 1,600 KG or cars with seating capacity over 7 seats in accordance with laws for passenger cars.

I would argue that overtaking on a bike in a multi-lane road is permissible. I conclude this because para 3 of 35 actively states an exception by vehicle type. No such exception to the right to overtake in a righthand lane is stated in clause 34. I however believe this is ambiguous; clause 34 states all vehicles can use non-left lanes in the case of 5 exceptions, but clause 35 states bikes must stay left without any exceptions either way.

I think I will go see my local cop boss and see what he has to say. The same guy told me what the rules about trailers are 2 years back...

Can you provide the Thai and English together? I would love to print this out to keep with me to show the cop the next time I get stopped for this, as I tend NOT to stay to the left.

I used to ride a Yamaha 650 in Bkk (93 to 98) and got stopped and 'fined' all the time, including for running with my lights on!!

I have read from other members here that they too were cited for driving their motorcycle with the headlight on during the day. This does seem to be one of those silly Thai laws that is counter to safety, especially considering that most bikes, big and small, do not have an option to turn it off without installing an additional switch. Most countries have laws which require the light to stay on at all times. Not Thailand though. I would like to read the section they are using to cite with. I have not been able to find it so far. Same goes for the "no tint on visor" law.

I agree, the law should be changed. How can it possibly be a bad thing to be more visible when on a motorcycle? 2 of my last 3 motorcycles here had full time running headlights, there was no switch to turn it off, and was unmodified from Honda. I still was fined for it once, although the cop switched stories and said that I also could not run Xenon headlights on my motorcycle when I showed him I couldn't turn them off.