smedly

so where is the resident spurs supporter manu basher that used to post some really nasty bull on this forum

gone into hiding in shame I think, it brings me great satisfaction to predict that Spurs are now heading for a shift down to 5th or possibly 6th

LMAO

oh and what a great match tonight, some absolutely stunning goals from SH they do not deserve to be 4th from the bottom 

16 minutes ago, Benroon said:

So who pays for the facility that means you don’t have to wade through airports carrying sackfuls of money ? Billions of pounds of infrastructure required to make that and other transactions happen ? 

It’s amazing the amount of people who believe banks should be at your beck and call for free.

No one forces you to use them - send it over in an envelope for much less.

Really ? you are so ill-informed it is shocking

and we are forced to use banks since your work pay can no longer be paid in cash

I remember a time when banks were begging for you to open an account and offering services to entice you - they no longer need to do that because "YOU HAVE NO CHOICE"  and just wait until the next big move comes - CASHLESS,  then they will really have you by the balls

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

5 hours ago, AGITATORKEN said:

Yes, I would like your agents name and number. I am getting quotes of 35,000 and up to put 800,000 in my account. What infuriates me is I qualify for a legal Visa, am a good expat, cause no trouble, break no laws, and pump 1.4 million into the economy every year. This is my 11th renewal and there is no reason for this nonsense.

Anybody that thinks they actually move 800,000 into your account is naive. It is a total scam and the immigration officials are in on it. My summation is they are charging foreigners Bt 35,000 for actually is about an hours work. I realize they have to split this fee with a lot of scam artist, but it is still an unreasonable amount

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your case doesn't make sense, you say you spend 1.4 million a year but are having trouble with the 800k or income method

Like me he may be transferring the money but not at equal monthly intervals in order to reduce fees - I hate giving banks money in fees especially since they are giving me very little in return for my large balance

4 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

 

My IO categorically state the seasoning periods will be checked at your next application.

They will check the previous 12 months accounts to qualify for the next extension.

ha ha and if you don't qualify there will be an agent waiting outside to sort it for 100k baht lol

On 2/26/2019 at 3:51 PM, moe666 said:

My credit union in the states uses swift transfer for at least 8 years, it is actually transfered thru western union from credit union to BKK FTT

they may tell you that but they actually use an intermediary bank such as HSBC who provide them with the service transparent to you

48 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

The concept of keeping the 800/400/800 and having it verified when applying for an extension renewal makes me think the idea of deliberately allowing the extension to expire would make some financial sense. Simply obtaining a visa waiver entry, and do the entry to non-O conversion, and then make a new extension surely would just require showing a few 65,000 baht transfers? (Or the 800k from overseas and then season for the 2 months required.... then free to spend it)

you are all wasting your time trying to make any sense or reason of these new rules or how they will be enforced

There is zero logic to any of it

If they wanted to wipe out agents paying a bribe to ignore seasoning then a simple bank balance check at any time post extension renewal would have clearly shown this

the only goal scored was denied by about 4" offside or a run that started 0.5sec early, smalling was offside but only by a whisker 

Good result regardless

4 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Would next years agent supported extension receive extra scrutiny when still using  waived seasoning and senior officer tea money,I can’t see it?

who knows but the point I am making is that it is not this years extension that is the problem - it is the following year when the new rules are fully in play, it will be too late then when you cannot show 800k balance for 3 months after your last extension and a minimum balance of 400k for the previous 12 months - what then

Like I said an agent will gladly take your money now - why not, no risk to them 

7 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

The Bangkok Bank online banking (Bualuang iBanking) is pretty good and I am sure it will do what you need. Although having a phone tied to the account is part of the security verification.

ok thx for the info and taking the time to answer my questions

13 minutes ago, johnjohn2 said:

You sign up with them and when you get all sorted you follow the instructions on a youtube video they give you to connect your Bangkok Bank account to your Dee Money account. You can do this from a Bangkok Bank ATM machine. Then on your phone you can just put in your details and it takes the money from your BB account and sends it to where you say. There are also a couple other methods they list as well. Topic is covered more in depth in a few other posts. But this should answer your question.

so could I also do this online without the phone app ? I do not have an ATM card (by choice)

35 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

What if every extension is treated as a new extension? Go out come back with a TV and apply fresh. Not breaking any laws. Perfectly legal.

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if you think that is going to work then go for it, I rather suspect they will impose a time limit on when you can re-apply, maybe 6-12 months 

can someone explain how the Deemoney transfer works, I have a Bangkok Bank account here in Thailand - how do you transfer the money to Deemoney to facilitate the transfer out of the country

16 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

Agents only do 800k bank method. You can bring million dollars a month or 30k/ month, agents dont care. They put 800k and buy the previlege for waiving of seasoning from IOs. At least that's s how it used to work. Don't know how it would work now

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it might work for your next extension application and they will take your money to facilitate - but come the next renewal the following year when they check your bank to see if you complied with the rules the previous 12 months  (and you obviously didn't) - what then ?, if your agent cannot bribe your next extension then you are shafted. 

On 2/17/2019 at 12:14 PM, Confuscious said:

The bank statement need to be made in Bangkok as this is the only UOB branch to provide FCD accounts and I live in N. Ratchasima.
All contact with the bank regarding the FCD account need to be made at the issuing bank and can not be done trough another UOB bank.

you need a letter from the bank and your passbook

Oh I see your bank don't have passbook for FCD - mine does

change banks

13 minutes ago, Shifty said:

Are you referring to extensions before or after March1

I talking about renewal in 12 months when the proposed checks will be carried out - an agent might take your money get you an extension now but come renewal - if you have broken the rules - what then ? will the agent sort it out for you ?

52 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Go for it.
 

De Gea

 

Dalot - Lindelof - Jones - Shaw

 

Fred - Matic - Pogba

 

Lukaku - Rashford - Sanchez

Or just <deleted> Lukaku or Sanchez off for Chong and Gomez

Lukaku - Rashford - Sanchez

Rashford-Martial-Sanchez

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Can't see much difference between Cambodia and Thailand myself.

wait until you have a medical emergency and see how that goes, not saying Thailand emergency services are anything to cheer about - but it exists nation wide

19 hours ago, fforest1 said:

There may very well be plenty of 800,000 guys that use agents to do the paper work for them....But they are also paying 4-6 thousand baht MAX sense there is no money lending involved...

correct

also, 90% of the people I know (there are many) that use an agent could not meet the requirements 

21 hours ago, scorecard said:

But what's the point of paying 25,000 / 50,000Baht 'fees' when it's going to come around again within 12 months and very possibly the 'fee' route not possible? 

 

 

actually as I have already told a few people in discussions about this - they said they checked with their agent and all is fine for their next extension, the problem is when they go to renew that one in 12 months and it becomes clear that they didn't meet the specified requirements since then i.e. 800k balance 3 months after and maintain a 400k balance throughout the year - what then ?, they can't go back to the agent that took their money and complain when they are forced to leave the country because they broke the rules.

Yes the agent took their money and got them an extension why would they not, but are they guaranteeing they will not be caught when they renew the following year - No they are not !!!!!! 

21 minutes ago, sambum said:

The point is that the THAI banks have your dosh for an additional 3 months to make THEM some more interest!!!

I have maintained a balance above 400k for years, I top it up once a year for 12 month extension 

21 minutes ago, BertM said:

You need to check with Ubonjoe. Last he published said 2 before and 3 after for renewals. Not 3 before.

I asked this question many times and there was clarification from an IO (I think Jomtien) that for renewals it would be 3+3 = 6 months

I know the order reads 2 months before - I get that, but it seems some IO's don't

I have asked if the new orders still include the renewal part of the order at 3 months 

It is not surprising that this again has created confusion because the IO's around various cities can't seem to agree on what is written in the order even though it is in plain sight

31 minutes ago, worrab said:

Technically nothing has changed for you. As long as you have 800k in the bank all year then there is no problem with worrying about dropping below the 400k mark. Life carries on.  

wrong, I generally top up once a year from the UK 3 months before my extension renewal, now I will need an extra 3 months - about 4k sterling, 

3 minutes ago, Thailand said:

"GRANDFATHER RULE

Stunningly, under the new order the old provisions that people who have been living in Thailand for continually on a retirement visa since before Oct 21, 2008 can still apply under the exact same conditions that they were first approved."

 

Really?

why did you expect that to change ?