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Haven't seen official info or price on the Zoomer X (aka Douchebag) yet. Probably in typical APe Honda style the price will be as much as the market can bear, for some of the dealers at least.

For the other 2 'new' releases APe Honda now have info on their website

http://www.aphonda.c...i_s12/index.asp

http://www.aphonda.c...ndex_idling.asp

Oh, the joy.

The much anticipated July Honda Dealer meeting is taking place soon with the announcement of 3 exciting models for the Thai market.

Well, seems 1 is newish (already seen at the Bkk Motor Show) and the other 2 are tarted up scooters. Let's hope i am wrong and they

come out with at least a CRF Motard, if not something more exciting.

1.New Honda Zoomer X

2.New Honda Click 125i, 14 inch Alloy Wheels, PCX style Energy saving idle stop system, 3 colors

3.New Honda Scoopy S12, 12 inch Alloy Wheels, 3 Arty colors

There were stories of WWII planes buried in crates up in Queensland; never found them though. A lot of WWII gear was scrapped, buried, dumped off boats in Australia i think due due to the Lend Lease scheme.

About 10 years ago i was sitting at Yangon Airport waiting for a flight, and saw a P51 taxi by and take off. I was so stunned i wasn't sure if i actually saw it correctly, and then another one taxied by! They had military markings, but can't remember exactly what the roundel was and never got a photo; i thought if was some sort of stylized star or sun (not the USAF one) but me memory ain't the best at the best of times. The planes were silver and the markings were blue and/or white.

Out of curiosity, are any of those brands (Bilmola, LS2, and Rider) DOT, Snell, or ECE certified?

The LS2 models we sell all have ECE certification. Most of the Bilmola models also have ECE certification. A couple of them also have DOT certification. The Rider helmets only have TIS certification though. I'd probably only use the Rider for short trips on my scooter, but would be comfortable using either the Bilmola or LS2 on my CBR 1000 RR.

I may be wrong but the Bilmola is not certified, even on their website they state "All Bilmola helmets are constructed to meet European (ECE R22.05) and American (DOT, SNELL) safety standards." There is a big difference between 'to meet' and 'certified'.

According to the ECE regs 22 Rev 4 (5.1.9.) "In order to be considered as approved under this Regulation, subject to the provisions of paragraph 9. below, every protective helmet shall bear, sewn to its retention system, one of the labels referred to in paragraph 5.1.4. above. A different method of securing the label is authorized if it complies with the above provisions. "

http://www.unece.org...egs/r022r4e.pdf

The couple of Bilmola helmets i've seen in Thailand don't have that label, though not sure about their Carbon Fibre one. Also not sure about that step lock quick release buckle, whether it complies or not. I noticed some of the newer REAL helmets have this style buckle too.

The UK SHARP rating system has some LS2 helmets rated, but no Bilmola or Rider helmets or REAL; which doesn't necessarily mean they won't get rated or won't get certified over there. http://sharp.direct....-helmet-ratings

The USA has the NHTSA which test products related with vehicles, no mention of Bilmola, LS2, REAL or Rider; which may or may not mean something! For the USA, if the helmet doesn't have labels attached to the helmet that states manufacturer's name, the model, size, month/year of manufacturer, construction materials and owner's info then it does not comply.

http://www.nhtsa.gov...ems/comply/ (do a search on equipment , and In the FMVSS search box, click 218 to limit it to helmets)

Maybe in some of the other EC countries these helmets have been tested and comply, if any one has info please share.

Don't forget that DOT is a self regulated certification, the manufacturer themselves put their helmets to the test to see if it passes the DOT regs.

Having said all that i quite like the REAL helmets, and use their DOT stickered ones. Also the Bilmola Replicon looks interesting, though the buckle puts me off.

Sym Thailand website http://www.sym-thailand.co.th/

Are they still making the Wave AT then? Do they do a 125cc version?

My girlfriend's bike needs replacing soon (Honda Icon - great for a petite girl, but not for my big ass) and its the only small bike in the house so I find myself riding it sometimes. I hate it and want something with larger wheels. Anything semi-automatic is out of the question as I can't get used to the different direction shifting gears of my clutch bike. For me, the Hayate or Elegance would be fine, but she only likes Hondas which means buying a PCX to get the bigger wheels. Problem is she won't be willing to shell out 80k on a bike, and neither will I.

So a 125cc honda Wave AT would work out nice. At risk of hijacking the thread, any other suggestions?

unfortunately no Wave 125 AT. Brian mentioned in his Sumet Cycle thread that there is a Honda dealer's meeting in July and 3 new models will be announced. Usually new model means new colours or stickers, but maybe you might get lucky!

The 110AT goes fine, fast enough around town and usually beats most things off the lights (beats the ones that aren't trying and the ones that have slow reactions; which is about 90%!).

The compulsory insurance with registration only covers injury (death?) expenses to a 3rd party (so not you, and maybe not passenger on your bike).

Briefly (and i hope i got these correct!), other insurances are basically broken down onto 3 classes

1st Class insurance: covers everything including theft, fire, repairs to other vehicles/property and repair to own bike even if your fault, increased coverage of injuries/deaths etc

2nd Class insurance: covers theft, fire, repairs to other vehicles/property but not repairs to your bike, increased coverage of injuries/deaths etc

3rd Class insurance: increases coverage of injuries/death to both parties, repairs to other vehicles involved (but not yours), but no theft or fire coverage

The important thing for farangs is that all 3 classes have bail bond; so if you are in an accident, you call the insurance company and they send a rep out to the crash scene and if the cops want to throw you in jail (maybe someone died) the insurance company will pay bail to keep you out. Well worth the extra cost.

Honda dealers do usually a 2 year theft insurance for about 4500 on new bikes, which isn't bad. Sometimes insurance through the new bike dealers are very competitive, or you can contact any of the insurance companies direct, or go through a broker like AA Insurance (which i use), or even Sumet Cycle can give a good deal on insurance for some bikes (PM Brian).

really comes down to condition of the bike (and assuming it has green book), but anywhere from THB 25k to 40k seems to be the general asking prices.

I really appreciate the input thanks, it's alot more than I was thinking, that's good news, because the money I make will go towards the Honda CBR 150 that I am wanting to buy

Yep, I have the green book and I guess she's in pretty good nick, well apart from that she could do with a dam_n good clean!

Umm, just one more question, but when I find a buyer what happens then, I mean how do we go about transferring names. Do I like just hand over the book, or is there something I need to be doing?

Thanks again.

quite a few topics in the bike forum about transfer the most recent one is

http://www.thaivisa....g-off-a-farang/

Basically in selling your bike (greenbook in your name) you will need to give a copy of passport, a copy of current visa page/s and maybe a resident certificate from your local immigration (unless you have a yellow house book, then a copy of that). You might also have to sign a DLT transfer form and DLT power of Attorney form if you are not going to go to the DLT with the new owner.

The DLT forms are in this topic

really comes down to condition of the bike (and assuming it has green book), but anywhere from THB 25k to 40k seems to be the general asking prices.

have you decided to not ride again in thailand ? or just the bike is finished ?

I think i'm done with scooters in bkk...simply too dangerous ,maybe somewhere else it will be ok...i'll get better and buy a humvee...:-)

Sorry to hear about your accident; i hope you both recover okay. Pattaya is much the same as Bkk, almost every time i get on the bike something crazy happens around me. I'm thinking of installing a video camera in the bike; mainly working on the theory that if i have the facility to record something interesting then it won't happen!

Out of interest, how many kms had the new tyres done before you had the accident?

I think i have found the perfect vehicle for you; though of course finding someone to service it properly (as with most things in thailand) might be a problem, and i wouldn't even know where to begin to look for replacement missiles!

Had the Wave 110i AT, great little bike. Does about 95 kph with the throttle pinned and i would do that for 10 kms or so into town without any problems. The good thing about the Wave AT compared to the Click, Scoopy, Mio etc is that it has 17" wheels and feels a bit more stiffer chassis wise; don't know if that is fact or just my own perception. The AT like any Wave seems to be just about bullet proof.

The Suzuki Hayate is also worth a look at if you want to spend a bit more (compared to a new Wave AT). An auto bike is perfect around town but they die on anything more than a mild incline.

^ Really? Madness! I can understand they want one for the buyer, but for the seller? That just doesn't make any sense. Any way around that? Seller has a work permit, would that perhaps work?

Every single time i've bought and sold a bike i needed the Residency certificate, i don't think it has anything to do with the visa, just proof of address. Which is part of the reason why i am going to the trouble of trying to get a Yellow Book (tabian Baan/House Book for a farang), so i can use that for proof of address instead.

I've bought and sold a few bikes over the years but the last was more than 5 years ago, so I'm not sure what is the current situation. Back then all I needed was the green book, the ownership change form and a copy of sellers passport,

I just bought a second hand Fino for my wife from a Farang here in Pattaya. it will be registered in my wife's name (Thai). Do we need to bring anything other than the green book, the signed ownership change form, sellers passport (picture page, visa, entry card) and my wife's ID card?

Do they need to see the bike - it's two years old and already registered in this province.

In Patts the farang seller has to get a Certificate of Residence from Immi. I don't think they will need the bike if it is already registered in Chonburi province.

anyway, let us know which way you go and if you are happy with the choice.

okay so i went on a pair of the michelin pilot sport at 100/80/16 R and 80/80/16 F

at 1850b after a small refund for my stock maxxis

:-) me likey a loT!!!

Cool! Some photos please. Is it the Pilot Sport or the Pilot Sporty? Had the Pilot Sporty 17" on my old CBR150 and loved them, didn't realise that they had sizes for the scooters.

there have been a couple of threads about scooter tyres, seems the Dunlop TT900s are popular,

and also Michelin M45, and there is a sticker IRC tyre too

anyway, let us know which way you go and if you are happy with the choice.

probably not, refer to my post #267, it depends on the width of the rim of your bike. Give Charlie a call, then we can all sleep peacefully.

yeh like u said..."mai me" she recommended the MT15 : f80/80/16 r90/80/16 for 2240b

it is a little wider than the OEM tyres (f70/90 -16 r80/90 -16). The ML75 that jamesbrock got looks a bit more sporty in tread style, but i wonder if the MT15 or the ML75 have the same 'performance'?

i wanna go wider...the original sx tire gives me a scare too much...

Good luck with your search then.

why can't i put the pirelli?? They don't have the Diablo for the sx??

probably not, refer to my post #267, it depends on the width of the rim of your bike. Give Charlie a call, then we can all sleep peacefully.

Does any one know if i can get a pair of pirelli's Diablo scooter tires in bkk and if they have 16" that would fit my new sx?...thnx

Contact Charlie 089 003 8886 at Competizioni Moto (the Pirelli importer), she speaks perfect english.

What are the rim sizes (stamped on the rims)? Looking at what the original tyre sizes are, and at what Pirelli has available in the Diablo Scooter range, probably won't (safely) fit.

It would be nice if the bike companies in thailand had a factory option for a slightly bigger rim for some of the scoots.

was in the big Mityon at South Patts, they had 3 'new' Nouvo Elegance 135LC but not one of the nuovo Nouvo SX! Don't know if it is old stock or maybe they are still making them; the Yam Thailand website still has the LC listed, not that that means much.

You are spot-on; the writing on the back page (under the last re-entry using the ED visa) says that it has been cancelled. If I had know that I probably would have waited another week or so, but am just happy that I got it changed over so easily. Actually, the letter I got from the school stated I would finish on the 15^th June, so I was probably lucky they didn’t send me back for another letter with a revised finishing date!

BTW, this visa section of ThaiVisa is great with lots of helpful info which I used to research what to do about the Retirement Visa (and for the next round of fun; the Yellow Book!). So a big thanks to everyone that keeps up with the rules and regularly help answer people’s question.

I have just done this at Jomtien. As the ED visa is a Non-Imm, i applied for retirement extension with the necessary paper work from the bank and an income statement from Australian Embassy in Bkk.

2 slight hiccups:

- i had to get a letter from my school saying that i had finished studying there (i thought that was obvious from the fact that the visa was about to expire)

- the start date of the retirement extension was the day i applied for it, not when the ED extension finished, so i've lost just over 2 weeks.

The only other things they wanted (besides the TM7 form and THB 1,900) was the usual passport front page, old visa and departure card copies (only 1 copy of each) and a look at my bank book plus a copy of the bank book name page and last updated page.

There is something hand written in Thai in the back of my passport plus some date stamps (the date when i received the retirement visa) but no one seemed too fazed about it when i picked up my passport and applied for a re-entry permit. I will get a Thai friend to look at it, but guess it might have something to do with the change of visa expiration date.

looks like a storm brewing in the area at the mo, hopefully it will dump soon and the sun will come out.

I can understand poor Thais living on less than $10/day not being able to afford anything more than the basic insurance required by law, but I'm pretty skeptical of any farang who says they can afford to buy a bike and put gas in it but can't afford to buy insurance.

What does 1st class insurance cost for a scooter?

It depends on how much you insure the bike for, if it is over/under 110cc, how much excess you want to pay (if any) and maybe the age of the bike.

Contact AA Insurance to get an idea http://www.aainsure.net

i insured 2 125cc scooters recently, one for 3rd class and one for 2nd class insurance. Both cover the basic injury liability plus a bail bond of THB 500k, while the 2nd class covers for fire and theft of the bike. Any accident i (hopefully don't) have, just call the insurance company and they will send someone out to the scene of the accident.

My 2nd class cost THB 4,471 with the bike insured for 24k. I probably can get a bit cheaper by shopping around, but the old adage 'you get what you pay for' is something i don't want to deal with in an emergency situation. While AA Insurance is only a broker and in an accident you deal direct with the insurance company, i like the idea that if i have any problems with language etc i know they will be happy to help out where possible.

the topic is about a bike licence not how many question marks someone puts in a post. Some people can be real wanakers.

Back to the op's question. I think you have been lucky, there a lot more checks around Pattaya and once i show them a thai licence they are happy to wave me on. I can confirm it is easy to get but probably not worth it if you are just here on holidays. I think the law is that you must have a valid international licence, not just a licence from your own country. Even then, some of the cops won't accept the International licence and also be aware that after 3 months in Thailand the International licence is no longer valid.

I didn't have an australian bike licence so had to do the whole test rimorole (sight/reaction tests, answer questions on a computer in english and then a 1 minute riding test) which takes all morning (if you pass the computer test first time round!!), but they issued me a car licence in 10 minutes using my Australian licence.

i think most of us have had that experience in one way or the other.

the shop on Pattaya Tai and Khao Phai has a shelf in one of their showcases full of spare visors; usually i just go through them myself. Happy hunting!