OneZero

29 October 2015 till 28 April 2016

Thank you.

A few months back a reduction in property transfer fees were reduced for property under 3 Million THB.

Can somebody please advise how long that reduction was supposed to last; ie when does the reduction in transfer fees end?

I have indeed noticed at more than one pool, that cigarette smoke seems to be more noticeable (it carries a great distance) and offensive around swimming pools than elsewhere. I have always assumed that it must be related to either the chemicals (chlorine?) in the pool or perhaps the fact that I was exercising / distance swimming and forcefully sucking in a lot of air. Believe me, it is very unpleasant while exercising.

I sold up lock, stock & barrel and left my homeland for the Thai food and the abundance of Indian tailor shops. Seriously though, you make some extremely good points (especially traffic). However, you've not mentioned the attraction of Thai women to those in need. In Chiang Mai (a University town, unlike lower Sukhumvit or Pattaya Beach Road) the farang can boast that "she" is not a professional. It's an ego thing you know.

There are a certain number of extensions to be processed in a year, and the immigration chiefs down in Bangkok don't care if everybody uses an agent, or nobody uses an agent.

So let's project forward if the present situation continues. Most aliens have yet to extend their permission to stay at the Promenada under the current conditions. As time passes, more and more people will have problems, and more and more will use G4T to make things easier. If no extra officers are assigned to process applications, and G4T customers continue to get priority, this must mean that less and less DIY applications will be processed.

So, is it possible that at some time in the future, it will not be possible to make an application unless you use an agent. If that happens then the early morning queue will still be there every day, except that people will be queuing to use the G4T services (maybe even other agents will be forced to use G4T).

No difference to the immigration chiefs, the same number of applications will be processed as before.

If that happens, then it will not be long before the charge for the service increases, and your "choice to use an agent" disappears.

Naturally, I hope this never happens, but it is a possibility.

delboy, you forgot to add: Only in Chiang mai.

Other provinces IM offices provide a respectable service. Chiang Mai IM has no incentive to do so as long as people are happy to pay 3000 THB to G4T. In fact as long as G4T is pulling in the cash there is indeed a disincentive for CM IM to improve their shameful service.

I see you are new here so you may be excused. It is no more time consuming than it was at the Airport. At the Airport they had two officers handling it now they have one at the Airport and one at Promenada. If it is more time consuming that is because more people have moved to Chiang Mai. At the Airport people were told to come back tomorrow same as what is happening at the Promenada. The only negative difference now is you can not get your passport back as fast as you could at the airport.

Complete BS!

They can do as many as they want in one day.

5 minutes for each extension.

They have a deliberate 'go slow' policy, in order to 'persuade' you to use a VISA agent.

That is the one and only reason for all the game playing at CM.

It's all about corruption and making money under the table.

I agree 100% with MaeJoMTB; and I'm not new here or need to be excused. After experiencing the efficient professional service provided by both Jomtien and Chiang Rai Immigration I know what can be accomplished if CM Immigration seriously wanted to accomplish it. It's hard to believe that we still have apologists for both CM Immigration and their front organization G4T. Following is what I wrote in this thread way back on page 1: "It's obvious that CM Immigration is purposely making the experience bad so that farangs will pay to make things easier. G4T is so convenient, surprise surprise & can do an extension anytime. 500 THB for what should be a free timely resident certificate. A year ago I thought it was extreme administrative incompetence. How wrong I was. It's all on purpose."

A contract in a civil case means nothing to Thai's either because since a loan is not a criminal case there is no jail time if found guilty. Also, they won't show up in court repeatedly, and eventually when the court rules in your favor there is no penalty and you can't force them to pay (they just say they have no way to pay).

pay the extra ... get it done hassle free ... no stress ..... seems the choice to me .

My guess is that everyone who uses an Agent has been through a similar first time or even second time experience as me, so the more Agent trips you see now reflects on the numbers of unhappy customers.

unless you have had a bad experience then no one goes to an agent the first time, as me....i just didnt believe all the stories I read.

It's obvious that CM Immigration is purposely making the experience bad so that farangs will pay to make things easier. G4T is so convenient, surprise surprise & can do an extension anytime. 500 THB for what should be a free timely resident certificate. A year ago I thought it was extreme administrative incompetence. How wrong I was. It's all on purpose.

Sparkles, perhaps I missed something with the residence certificates. If 30/day x 500 THB = 15,000 THB/day. Lets estimate 20 working days/month x 15,000/day = 300,000 THB/month. Nice little earner by itself isn't it, without even addressing the G4T issue.

The first thing that rule of law would manifest is higher, much higher, prices for almost everything, and nobody but the sellers want that.

Not necessarily true. Thailand could remain competitive if it successfully reduced corruption, with the benefits shifted from the "Hi-So's" pockets to the workers. Snowballs chance in hell of that happening, huh.

Why wouldn't one want a dividend?

Edit: Or by not wanting a dividend is one thereby electing to have the value of the dividend reinvested in stock?

Pardon my ignorance, but can someone answer my question?

I also would like to try automatic reinvest dividends if that is possible.

Why wouldn't one want a dividend?

Edit: Or by not wanting a dividend is one thereby electing to have the value of the dividend reinvested in stock?

I thought that was what the holiday around 5th of December was for. Why didn't they organize bike for dad on that day?

Exactly. Are Friday 04Dec & Mon 07Dec already going to be holidays? Is this a propaganda pitch / populist move (give away another holiday) to gain support for the new kids on the block?

Hope the new buyer of those 129 rooms is cooperative and not self serving in a corrupt way. See thread:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/870182-129-condo-rooms-bank-foreclosure-sale/#entry10071370

I suggest that you come to realize that attempting to be humorous once or twice may be welcomed (as I welcomed it), but endless repetition of the same thing has lost it's humor and wastes our time. I have appreciated your comments on other threads, but you are becoming monotonous on this thread.

I thought I had read somewhere in the past that with some dogs it is not only fear but possibly a physical pain in their ears. Talk to a vet.

Late market adjustment!

Crash will commence next Tuesday @ 2pm - New York time.

It will be a big, big one.

I guess you still don't realize that the humor in what could be a serious thread (if it could even be call humor, more likely juvenile idiocy) has long passed it's expiration date.

Labour costs high? availability of labour? in Thailand? who was the moron who said that? Structural weakness like this stops foreign investment...ummmm seriously the people promoting this crap are being paid to much, of course if you want to read between the lines its all about keeping the little person down by giving them an excuse why your wages are not going up.

Take note Big Business....if you keep screwing the middle class your going to run out of people who can afford to buy you products.

Thailand could increase wages and reduce the red - yellow divide while at the same time being competitive if corruption / patronage were reduced with the resulting benefits flowing into wages rather than hiso pockets.

I'd still like to know what a TM30 form is, ie, what purpose it serves so that if necessary I can be prepared to provide it in future.

I don't think I've encountered it before.

Here is the official title on the TM.30 to give you an idea:

NOTIFICATION FROM (sic) FOR HOUSE-MASTER, OWNER OR THE POSSESSOR OF THE RESIDENCE WHERE ALIEN HAS STAYED

Any time a foreigner stays overnight in a hotel/house/condo/etc, a TM.30 is supposed to be filed to register that event. Hotels have a web link where they can do online reporting. Individuals must submit the paper TM.30 form.

You can download the form and have a look.

Thanks for that. I see that the TM28 is probably of more use for me, as I wander back & forth between provinces.

TM28: Form for aliens to notify their change of address........

I agree, but apparently by renting a house/condo you become the house-master or possessor of the residence, and can submit a TM.30 for your own occupancy of the dwelling. Not sure exactly where a condo owner-occupant falls in that context.

I have yet to hear any situation where Jomtien Immigrations has asked for a TM.28, only TM.30, so when I go for my next extension (in December) I plan to have both forms completed along with the chanote of my condo (with photocopies). "Belt and suspenders" perhaps, but I just am not clear what they are after any more.

wpcoe, I own a condo at Jomtien Complex Condotel (JCC) & in the past when updating my retirement visa (I avoid CM Immigration like the plague) I have asked JCC mgr for a letter (300 THB, seems expensive doesn't it) addressed to Immigration confirming I live at JCC (even if it is only part of year). This has always worked for me updating the retirement visa at Jomtien Immigration & I suspect will also be satisfactory in future. I was just trying to prepare for the potential need of either TM28 or TM30 in future. As I said, I have the feeling the letter fromm JCC condo mgr (300 THB) will continue to suffice. But who knows, perhaps my independent submiission of the TM28 &/or TM30 would save me the 300 THB for the letter from JCC mgr.

I'd still like to know what a TM30 form is, ie, what purpose it serves so that if necessary I can be prepared to provide it in future.

I don't think I've encountered it before.

Here is the official title on the TM.30 to give you an idea:

NOTIFICATION FROM (sic) FOR HOUSE-MASTER, OWNER OR THE POSSESSOR OF THE RESIDENCE WHERE ALIEN HAS STAYED

Any time a foreigner stays overnight in a hotel/house/condo/etc, a TM.30 is supposed to be filed to register that event. Hotels have a web link where they can do online reporting. Individuals must submit the paper TM.30 form.

You can download the form and have a look.

Thanks for that. I see that the TM28 is probably of more use for me, as I wander back & forth between provinces.

TM28: Form for aliens to notify their change of address........

I'd still like to know what a TM30 form is, ie, what purpose it serves so that if necessary I can be prepared to provide it in future.

I don't think I've encountered it before.

See post #4 of this topic http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/818144-tm-30-form/

OK, Thanks. So the TM30 is a form to be filled out by the owner or manager of where you reside. In effect a way to provide proof to immigration. This requirement must be related to recent requirement to report for 90 day at the last immigration location you reported before. If one travels a lot (as I do with condos in 4 provinces) this requirement has become tedious, but so far I've eased the tedioum by asking my condo managers for an official letter each time before I go to do the 90 day in a different province. If I was able to successfully report online I would just continue to report the same location (but online has not been successful for me).

I'd still like to know what a TM30 form is, ie, what purpose it serves so that if necessary I can be prepared to provide it in future.

I don't think I've encountered it before.

What is a TM30?

Lumpini Park View Condo overlooks Lumpini Park and has an MRT entrance at it's front door. See google map at link:

https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Lumpini+Park+View/@13.7246885,100.5461202,15z/data=!4m6!1m3!3m2!1s0x0:0x38b31e30b5d65716!2sLumpini+Park+View!3m1!1s0x0:0x38b31e30b5d65716

I believe a 40 sm condo would rent between 15k & 20K THB/mo depending upon view / floor & furnishings.

I'm not trying to rent mine but could attach a picture of the fantastic view from 33rd floor, if only I knew how to attach a picture. Excellent location.