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7 hours ago, Queen4ADay said:
If they live there and the Thai wife is in the blue book then they will not pay the 3% Business tax
If true (I'm not questioning your veracity) this is valuable information. Thanks,
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16 hours ago, gaff said:
Thank you, do you know exactly what is he doing ? does he manage a stray dogs place ? Where ?
And does he just want money ? Thanks again for your reply.
Sorry Gaff, I don't know much more other than after seeing & talking with the person(& his accompanying dogs) I met (it was along Jomtien Beach Road), I got the impression he was sincere in his efforts. I am myself very sympathetic to homeless dogs & cats.
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Not specific to anti-aging but...........
If you're walking, Just East of the main market old / small clock tower a few hundred meters is the government clinic that will do all your blood tests, heart test & xray at Thai prices for everybody.
Walking: After the clock tower you will see the Post Office on the left & then it's just another 100 or 200 meters on your left. I believe the street is named Uttaradit Road. But Uttaradit is a One Way road in that area, so if you are driving these directions will all be reversed. However, I'm not familiar with landmarks to give you if driving.
Go anytime M-F 0800-1600 for info but they want to draw the blood early in the morning approx 0800, and provide results later in the day. So there is always a big Thai morning crowd but don't let that scare you away.
Start with the office on the second floor to initially give you all the info you need. Some of the nurses there speak good English & are eager to help.
If you need things like ultrasound etc they will tell you to go to the main government hospital.
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I've seen & talked with the fellow moonseeker mentioned. A well meaning guy. I'm guessing it's the same person. I doubt he would be hanging out at the same location same time consistently every day.
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Good luck, they are "Family". I know ours are.
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Perhaps a veterinarians office can help with advice,
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Sorry, I couldn't edit my link when I wanted to expand the thoughts on patronage. So I've copied my prior comments.
"This system continues because of the hard to change social cultural trait of PATRONAGE here in Thailand. This cultural trait is not on any influential person's or organization's agenda for change because it would diminish their influence. In fact it is actively promoted with the emphasis on absolute respect for any higher authority. This is well illustrated with the unchanging and unjustified heavy promotion of those at the very top - a subject which can not be mentioned without fear of imprisonment. The "Elite" have no incentive to change this.
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The "Benefits" of patronage flow both up and down the patronage chain. Patrons provide awards, favors, recommendations and perhaps a portion of any ill gotten gains to the underlings, if for no other reason than to keep them quiet.
Patronage fosters corruption. Underlings are reluctant (or just afraid) to upset their patrons apple cart.
So it's not just the elite denying change, it's also the lower folks reluctant or afraid (Defamation, Les Majeste) to more seriously attempt to upset the patronage - corruption system. It goes straight to the top (Les Majeste).
Thailand is fortunate that the extremely slow evolutionary change here has not resulted in a revolutionary form of violent upheaval. Although the communist insurgency in the 60's-70's and the red shirt movement in 2010 were indications that there were some willing to go that far. The moderating influences of buddhism and the royal family were at least partial reasons for it to not become a massive revolutionary form of protest. That is one reason the powers to be so heavily promote the Thai version of a "Kingdom" and are not likely to soon get rid of either the Les Majeste or defamation laws.
Indeed culture is slow to change.
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13 hours ago, Lungstib said:Until there is real social equality and advancement is reliant on ability rather than family ties Thailand cannot move forward. The wai-ing, bowing, scraping and crawling in front of "higher ups", the fancy uniforms with braids and gongs sufficient to have partaken in multiple wars and the "justice" system which quite simply isn't, reduces this country to an also ran. With a poorly educated military running the show you have a country with its brakes firmly on. As we have seen with several cases concerning generals, ministers and police, corruption cannot be tackled while this system continues.
This system continues because of the hard to change social cultural trait of PATRONAGE here in Thailand. This cultural trait is not on any influential person's or organzation's agenda for change because it would diminish their influence. In fact it is actively promoted with the emphasis on absolute respect for any higher authority. This is well illustrated with the unchanging and unjustified heavy promotion of those at the very top - a subject which can not be mentioned without fear of imprisonment. The "Elite" have no incentive to change this.
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23 minutes ago, KittenKong said:
Of course. It happens everywhere here, every day, and in every sort of establishment. Theft is commonplace.
But most people are either too stupid to notice or too lazy to care.
My take on it is that regardless of who the thief is stealing from, I dont want thieves serving me. I want thieves to be in jail. Why? Because stealing from an employer will at least cause the employer to put prices up, which affects me. And it may cause the business to fail, which may mean that I cant get the product I want. And the same guy may go on to steal in other ways that affect me even more directly.
Without any allusion to morality we finally have some common sense written.
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Oh come on, try to keep him, he looks happy with you now & may be sad in a new home (at least for awhile). Can you rig a chain to a clothes line or something like that? Good luck to both of you.
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Catch, spay and release. Only a long term solution but it's humane. Have to stop the birth of new unfortunates.
Not a viable solution when not undertaken by governments / government organizations (at several levels) action.
Individual private citizens and animal foundations cannot succeed on their own.
Unfortunately governments here are not seriously doing it. Not sure of the primary reasons but certainly money would be a factor.
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Quote: "I have friends living in Jomtien who say that procedures there are, for the most part quite organized and relatively efficient, so my take is that there is something wrong at Promenada."
Kohsamida, You hit the nail on the head.
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It seems that AOT leadership has learned some lessons from Chiang Mai Immigration leadership.
Note that I am not faulting the underlings. Leadership sets the standard.
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With respect to the Land Office charges you may want to educate yourself with the following thread:
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We're not close but We've known each other for about 20 years. When he was a lower rank I was an advisor to RTA & we crossed paths.
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58 minutes ago, KittenKong said:
And again the PMs. What is it with you?
If he is so highly recommended why not just give his address?Ya, why not? I, & perhaps others, would the appreciate the information as well.
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Don't know how all that other data got in the input data.
Anyway, the owner has actually owned it more like 20 yrs since 1998 (but the calculator only went back to 2006), so instead of 125,000 income tax it will be more like 200,000.
In actuality income tax is a sellers responsibility morally, but it is all part of the negotiation. My ignorance of the income tax aspect and agreeing to pay half of everything (therefore including sellers income tax) was where I erorred in the negotiation. However, the seller did not really want to sell at the agreed price, so he was probably aware of snaring me into paying half of his "income tax". Win some, lose some.
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Owner is PersonCompanySelling Price:bahtLand Dpt. Appraizal Price:bahtOccupied Date:-- 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 -- January February March April May June July August September October November December -- 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018Transfer Date:01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 January February March April May June July August September October November December 2018 2019 2020 2021Owner has registered its name in a House Registration Book (Blue Book) totally more than 1 year
Owner has never registered or registered its name in a House Registration Book (Blue Book) less than 1 yearCondominium or Property in Project
Private property, not in projectPerson Owner has registered its name in a House Registration Book (Blue Book) totally more than 1 year Condominium or Property in Project Expenses Detail Transfer fee (2%) =100,000 * Business Tax (3.3%) =* Stamp Duty (0.5%) =25,000 occupied 12 year(s) * Withholding Tax =125,000 occupied 10year(s) Total=250,000 baht *** -
In the sales & purchase contract I have agreed to pay 50% of All closing costs at land office. My mistake. One of the closing costs is "Income Tax", which should be solely a sellers responsibility if one looks at it from a moral responsibility only. The calculation of this sellers "Income Tax" is rather convoluted based partly upon years of ownership & what all else I'm not sure (The seller happens to be a Maj General & is quite rich, but I'm not sure of that impact). In any event this sellers "Income Tax" alone has added 200,000 thb alone to the land office costs, of which I have to pay half. The 2% transfer tax on the 5 million thb condo is 100,000 thb. Transfer tax (100,000 thb) + income tax (200,000 thb) = 300,000 thb so I'll be paying approx 150,000 thb. It's the "Income Tax" variable which in some cases can make the land office cost very expensive, even if one is not obligated to pay the "Business Tax" (for a sale prior to 5 years ownership).
Live & learn.
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Thanks for replies. I will certainly go to the land office.
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48 minutes ago, JestSetter said:
These guys are worse than the mafia. I go out of Thailand for 10 min. and I am treated like a criminal. Surely, surely, there is a better way.
There certainly could be a better way. But not with Chiang Mai Immigration.
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I'm not sure if it varies from one location to another, but this question pertains to purchase of condo in Jomtien (Pattaya land office).
Assuming a condo has been owned for at least 5 years, what are the various % Pattaya land office charges to transfer title (as a percentage of at least the land offices minimum evaluation of a particular condo bldg)?
Specifics: I am buying a Jomtien condo that has been owned by seller far longer than 5 years I'm told that the land office has a minimum valuation for this bldg of 40,000 thb / square meter (m2). Seller & I will split land office charges 50/50.
I have long been under the assumption that the various % charges the Pattaya land office makes will sum up to a bit over 3% of evaluation (assuming it has been owned longer that 5 years).
Real estate agent says I don't need to go to land office if I give power of attorney. Real estate agent also says that in the case described (seller has owned at least 5 years) the charges will be closer to 7% rather than the 3+% that I was assuming.
My suspicions have been raised. Can anyone provide advice?
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Perhaps Father Ray Foundation (for Children) on Sukhumvit; or some other church. ?? Sorry I'm not more specific.
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Immigration could solve all this by issuing queue tickets for the next day when they run out. I wonder what could stop them from doing this.
Lack of initiative.
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Ask the "5 Why's" ** to get to the root cause(s) of a problem. In this case we don't even have to ask 5 times.
Why #1: Immigration could solve all this by issuing queue tickets for the next day when they run out.
I wonder what could stop them from doing this?
Answer: Lack of initiative.
Why #2: Why the lack of initiative?
Answer: Lack of kickback from the visa service companies.
Stop. The root cause of the problem has been identified.
**"The 5 Whys is a technique used in the Analyze phase of the Six Sigma DMAIC (Define, Measure, Analyze, Improve, Control) methodology. ... By repeatedly asking the question “Why” (five is a good rule of thumb), you can peel away the layers of symptoms which can lead to the root cause of a problem."
"5 Whys. 5 Whys is an iterative interrogative technique used to explore the cause-and-effect relationships underlying a particular problem. ... Not all problems have a single root cause. If one wishes to uncover multiple root causes, the method must be repeated asking a different sequence of questions each time."
Pattaya police station is no joke
in Pattaya
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Good report. Be educated. Be warned.