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Just a quick add on here...

It's funny, one does not notice things sometimes, but I was visiting a friend to day who has several still ponds (in shade) all filled with fish...has a long, fine fern leaf like plant, in all the ponds, which he says oxygenates the water. Obviously very well as he says he's never cleaned them... & the water was pretty clear...

Sorry don't know the name & he did not either, but they grow several feet long & are about 1 inch wide ... I am sure any fish supply place would carry it, or if there are natural ponds around you may find it there too... all worth trying, there is nothing more tedious than cleaning ponds!

Any chance of getting a picture of this plant?

Funny having this kind of rating now, following the reports of bad relations between Thailand and USA

I personally said long time ago, when Thailand refused to extradite Victor and spoke against USA wishes in regards to Burma that USA will find some diplomatic way to punish Thailand.

I think this is just the beginning of the punishment,there could be more to come

Yeaa, turn the Gulf of Thailand into Bay of Pigs!

P.S. If Thailand is a high risk country, where would you go?... Just be careful and don't stay at your home country!

I am amazed by the constant USA bashing on this site. It appears that Maplecroft is a UK-based company (Registered in England and Wales, 24th Oct 2001)...

I'm am by no means saying that the USA is a "model of excellence"; in fact FAR FAR away from it! USA deserves bashing on a lot of issues.... but please check the facts before assuming that everything bad is originated from the USA.....

Dave's quote "Used to call these 'water hyacynths' I think ?? and I am not convinced 'Pla Nin' are That effective against green water, in my experience.

Shade and Correct filtration are probably the answer."

To add my "two bits" worth on this subject! Water hyacinths are a bit different than the picture shown, & have a white & blue/ purple flower.... different leaves! ... but both these plants multiply like wind fire!

But more on the subject, I have a pond in full sun, my land-lady has one in pretty much full shade, she cleans hers at least every two weeks, & uses a small pump that only trickles water.... I've cleaned mine once in 6 months & that was because of dirty well water when topping it up.

More important is good AERATION of the water, if you can find a filtration system that would help too, but I have not seen here... although not looked too hard, either...

I have a fairly heavy duty pump, attached to 1.5 inch pipe. which I have on a timer coming on for about one hour a day, with three fountains, which seems to be enough to keep the water clear... in full sun all day!

Of course having a bigger pump means separating it from sucking up the fish! But when I designed the pond we made three separate areas, one for just the pump... This could be achieved with a filtration box, too Another way would be to add a waterfall, but again a larger pump would be required...

No air in water equals stagnant water! Hope this helps!

Thanks Jimmy, but I have a 3-well, canal-type fliter system with lava rocks, etc. and a large pump on a timer that feeds 2, nearly 2 meter high water falls. The waterfalls run 4 times a day for an hour each time but the water keeps getting greener and greener. As I mentioned earlier, out of 31 "Pla Nin", only 4 are still alive and I doubt they will have any impact at all. This past weekend I added 22 "water lettuce" plants to the pond, so I guess I will wait to see whether this has any impact. I really don't know what else to do at this point.

The front pond, which gets partial sun all day remains clear and virtually maintenance free.

That is fantastic we have 50 or so Koi and maybe 500 Tilapia, they live together in peace and harmony and never fight or eat each other, how big are your tilapia?

The Koi and Tilapia are both nearly the same size, about 3 inches long.

OK, I have tried the Tilapia and now have another question..............

I put 31 Tilapia in the pond last Saturday and as of now, the Koi have killed 15 of them. How do you prevent the Koi from killing them long enough for them to be effective against the algae??

Death toll now at 22.

Tilapia and Koy get on well together. I have two ponds one has around 500 Tilapia and maybe 50 Koy, they live together in peace and harmony with no algae.

My big pond feeds a small one via an underground pipe to a waterfall, the small pond is maybe 2 meters by 5 meters, but only 18" deep. It was always as green as a green thing in a green place, we tried all manner of plants but still every day had to scoop out net fulls of green slime. I read about Tilapia filtering out the water so as a last resort put in around 10 Tilapia. Within 7 days the water was clear. It just simply works,

Regrettably you need so many plants on a smallish shallow pond to do any good that they cover the surface, but still do not clear the pond anyway near as well as Tilapia.

OK, I have tried the Tilapia and now have another question..............

I put 31 Tilapia in the pond last Saturday and as of now, the Koi have killed 15 of them. How do you prevent the Koi from killing them long enough for them to be effective against the algae??

Tilapia and Koy get on well together. I have two ponds one has around 500 Tilapia and maybe 50 Koy, they live together in peace and harmony with no algae.

My big pond feeds a small one via an underground pipe to a waterfall, the small pond is maybe 2 meters by 5 meters, but only 18" deep. It was always as green as a green thing in a green place, we tried all manner of plants but still every day had to scoop out net fulls of green slime. I read about Tilapia filtering out the water so as a last resort put in around 10 Tilapia. Within 7 days the water was clear. It just simply works,

Regrettably you need so many plants on a smallish shallow pond to do any good that they cover the surface, but still do not clear the pond anyway near as well as Tilapia.

Great, thanks for the advice. I may give the Tilapia a go first and then add a few plants to round it off later. Besides JJ Market any recommendation on where to buy them? I live in the Sathorn area.

Thanks, I'll give this a go and see what happens.

Do try to keep the fish away from it though, they nibble the roots and stop it growing as fast as it should. Left to its own devices it multiplies rapidly.

Thanks, I may try to put it in some large (elevated) pots or maybe put up some fencing in one corner.

What's water lettuce called in Thai? Any other decent plants that absorb this algae?

It looks like this

and is found all over the place, just grab a couple of plants and you're away.

Additional plants don't absorb the algae, they absorb the excess nutrients that encourage the algae.

We've got Tilipia (Pla Nin) in with Koi and Goldfish in the condo pond, everyone seems happy. The Tilipia breed like rabbits so eating a few is always in order.

Thanks, I'll give this a go and see what happens.

UV light did the trick for me but the water should be constantly running through it, use it in conjunction with your waterfall and maintain the correct Ph level, and put as many plants as you can in.

Check out this link

http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/koipond/water_quality.html

Thanks. What type of plants? The pond is cement and about 1.3 meters deep.

Can you put some talapia fish in there? They actually filter algae out through their gills, works for me in one of my ponds.

How do these fish fare with Koi?

That green stuff is algae. Keep the sun away. Don't fertilize the water. Bring in the clowns (snails). Filter the water.

The pond is well shaded and only gets about an hour of morning sun while the front pond is in the sun most of the day. The water runs through the filters 4 times a day.

Quite a few pond experts and koi threads in the pets forum, moving there.

Thanks

In nearly all these extreme jealousy cases the women are from "the industry ",they trust no one,and have serious issues that can result in killing you for something they have imagined ,.......and yes i was a recpieint of attempted murder by one,.

I cannot agree that they are "nearly all from the industry"

My GF (and never been in the industry) is always going on about my Thai wife even though I haven't seen her for more than five years.

All this bullshyt such as "yes I stay with you but she stay in your heart"

Take a look at this link http://www.chiangmainews.com/ecmn/viewfa.php?id=2586 it explains a lot about the psyche of Thai women.

Obsessive jealousy bordering on paranoia is very hard to live with

I have to agree with this (nothing to do with the "industry"). My, now ex-gf, was always saying similar stuff about my ex-wife and couldn't understand "why you keep giving her money if you don't love her anymore?" No matter how many times I explained that alimony and child support are required by the court..... she never understood it. Finally, after many months of near violence (on her part), we broke up. I would come home from work and find her sitting in the garden waiting for me (after she climbed over the 2 meter wall). I finally had to relocate house to get away from her. Nothing worse than an "over-jealous" woman.

I have 2 Koi ponds, one in the front of the house and one in the back garden. The one in the front is always clear and requires almost no maintenance while the one in the back is always cloudy with green water. I have a 3-well, canal-type fliter system with lava rocks, etc. on the back and two water falls to keep the water circulating. I emptied 3/4 of the water and cleaned the filter system and it seemed to help for a few days but now the water is back to green. I don't want to add a lot of chemicals but want to know if there is a certain type of fish or something that can help clear the water. Really strange since the front pond is also so clear with no maintenance but no matter how much I do in the back nothing seems to help. Any advice will be appreciated.

At the head of most traffic jams in BKK is normally either a policeman or a bus (or both)..........

The fact that most of the u-turn points are blocked forcing everyone to drive sometime several kilometers further to u-turn can't be helping either.

It is always amazing to me (frustratingly so) that on some days the 27KM drive to the office can take 30 miuntes and the very next day can take 2.5 hours with no visible sign of a cause.......... Amazing Thailand

[\quote] And talk to neighbors, motodrivers ( don't know how to call these ******) and "security" guards...tell them you offer money for anonymous return of at least the external backup drives. There is a chance they are not erased and sold yet.

Sorry for what happened and good luck!

Edit: spelling

Thanks for the advice. After checking around I found a contractor who was working on a Soi behind my house who said he saw a "skinny teenaged boy carrying a large bag on his back with the bottom of his t-shirt pulled up to cover his face and nose". He said he walked out from behind the row of houses where my house is (mostly overgrown trees and very high weeds back there) at around 1200 PM in the afternoon and was promptly picked up by a motorcycle taxi.

Speak to the head honcho at the Police station that covers your area.

Money talks. Half now, half when he gets back your photos. You have to make it worth their while, otherwise they will do sod all

Done already. Unfortunately doesn't seem to have motivated them much.

First off, big condolonces to the OP, like you said mate hardware you can replace over time but the photos etc.......bad news! Do you have any online (facebook etc) or stuff you have sent to friends (check your sent items in your email)......sorry if this sounds really basic and like I'm being condescending........not meaning to I'm just trying to think of any way thing that might help.

Best of luck

Thanks, I do have some online but only a small fraction of the ones lost. Appreciate the suggestions.

Sorry that you got robbed. May I ask a bit more info, was it moo baan si chi tong on the cheang wattana side or the main entrance side?

SiChai Thong, Chaengwattana side.

If you can't afford a security system - A rotweiller (or any big dog) works just as well and makes a good companion too.

I have an English Bulldog, which although harmless most Thais are afraid of. He was not harmed during the burglary, instead he was fed the left-over pizza from the fridge. Thankfully he wasn't harmed.

you need sensor beams inside..so no matter where they get in ...any movement inside and the alarm will go off...hope this never happens again .........

This is good start, then you need to network the beams and connect them to hidden wall mounted machine guns that will tear anything in half that sets the beams off.

I wish that option was available.

you need sensor beams inside..so no matter where they get in ...any movement inside and the alarm will go off...hope this never happens again .........

Have motion detection and beams now but it's kinda like closing the barn door after the horses escaped. Am pretty confident that the system will detect future entry attempts.

sorry to hear that ...why would they bother taking photographs..probably fo the nice frames you had them in i suppose.......scum bags

The pictures were all soft files stored on the hard drive of one of the computers and the back-up disk.

My house in Pakkret was broken into during the day on Tuesday, May 19 while I was at work. The burglars managed to escape detection of the house alarm by entering and exiting through the roof and dropping down through the ceiling. My entire house, 1st and 2nd floor was ransacked and the valuables taken out through the newly created hole in the roof.

Included with many other things, they made off with a couple notebook pc's and even managed to find my external back-up hard disk stored in another room. Every picture of my daughter from the night of her birth until now (9 years) are stored on one of the notebooks (which happens to be missing a keyboard which can not be purchased in Thailand) and backed up on the external drive. All the material things that the bastards took can be replaced over time but the thousands of pictures can never be.

I know that I will likely never get them back and the computers and hard disk will likely be reformated (erased) and the items sold off for quick cash but I still want to believe that there may be some way to get my pictures back.

Any ideas? I am literally sick over this. Of course the police were informed and reports taken but after living here for more than 3 years, I don't have much confidence they will be able to turn up with anything.

Very sorry to hear that.

Do you live in a moo baan? Or is it just a stand alone house?

Moo Baan just outside of Nichada Thani