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Thats how it starts Vietnam started with just a few "military advisers" that grew to 16,000 "military advisors" followed by combat troops 184,000 by 1966, and 536,000 by 1969. The US had total air supremacy and overwhelming firepower, dropped 3 times the total amount of bombs in WW2 won every battle. The Viet Cong mainly relied on guerrilla/ terrorist tactics there was no way they could compete against the US/South Vietnam forces as far as military hardware or ordnance yet we all know who won that war. Iran is hardly going to just sit back and allow the US or Israel to land on its soil without doing anything about it. Bodybags returning to the US would likely evaporate any support there may be in the US at the moment which doesn't appear to be all that high anyway. That could prompt the US to withdraw from Iran altogether in fact support for Israel could even evaporate leaving it in a very vulnerable position. The US is making the same mistakes and flawed assumptions it did in Vietnam. Vietnam didn't really affect the rest of the world outside of the participants and region this time its affecting a very large proportion of the world energy supplies.

There will be American boots on the ground the fact that Trump said there won't be more or less guarantees it. Then there is the fact that the Pentagon has asked for $200 billion dollars plus Netanyahu has more or less confirmed that the air campaign alone will not achieve Israels goal of regime change & crushing Iran. Israel does not have the manpower to invade Iran alone so Netanyahu is buttering Trump up by saying nobody can tell the President of the USA what to do when everybody can see he is leading Trump by the nose like some prize bull in an arena. P.S. This is another war that is going to cost the US dearly both in terms of money, human suffering deaths and ultimately humiliation.

A big red one with DUNCE written on it when he has to sit in the corner.

Whatever the final outcome of this war it will have cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars. The cost for decades to come will be incalculable. All of it could have been prevented not by war or threats simply by talking but that doesn't make for good TV does it.

No doubt Trump will get his crayon out and draw a nice squiggly picture on it. If Congress has any sense they will reject it and mark it "Must do Better"

You think you got it bad. Just spare a thought for those poor girls having to put up with all the tight fisted Ex-Pats.

America's bombing the wrong country

I prefer the term I read recently Trumpflation

Leave NATO out of it this ain't our fight.

Not a snowballs chance in hell of getting my (or anyone in my extended family's) vote. Brexit was Farages greatest accomplishment and look how well thats gone. He's Trump lite just in it for himself. It would be a disaster.

Pot calling the kettle black

Israel is the aggressor here with Trump backing them up. It never was about the nuclear issue it was always about Israel wanting to destroy Iran. They had to attack & set the region on fire before a deal was reached. I hope it backfires on them spectacularly I doubt there will ever be peace as long as Israel still exists and they continue on the same path.

I agree with everything you said but why spoil it with the Daily Mail.

The electorate is changing older ones dying off younger ones becoming eligible to vote. They are the ones who will decide whether the UK rejoins or not.

Had a good laugh at that Unfortunately it's not far from the truth. For decades ever since the USSR collapsed and Russia appeared to be opening up coming in from the cold successive governments have seen defence as an easy target for cuts. Not necessarily their fault the threat appeared to have diminished, ask anyone would they rather have a new hospital or a new warship and most people would have gone with the hospital. It's only now after Russia invaded Ukraine that governments all over Europe are waking up to the fact that peace has a price. The governments first priority Is or should be to protect its people. My solution to stop the cuts would be there should be a law that imposes a ring fenced percentage of GDP for defence that whatever government is in power would have to adhere to. I would like to see 5% After seeng what is happening in Ukraine and Iran I would say an air defence system covering the UK should be a priority. Defence equipment ships planes tanks etc. take years to develop & build it's not something you can just pick up when you need it. NATO in its current form cannot be relied on as the latest rant by Trump only confirms. "In an 8 minute call to the Financial Times US President Donald Trump said NATO could face a "very bad" future if members didn't contribute forces to help re open the Strait of Hormuz, in an apparent attempt to blackmail countries into joining the war by threatening to withdraw American support for NATO. He also said he might delay a planned state visit to China if it also did not contribute." My personal opinion is Europe would be better off and safer without the US in the UK and Europe they always seem to be at war somewhere in the world. "US bases in Europe were, and remain, a key component of protecting the USA by projecting power and deterring threats forward. Established after WW2, these bases provided forward defence against threats like the USSR, enable rapid response in Europe/Africa/Middle East, and secured transatlantic interests, preventing threats from reaching the US homeland" but as usual Trump is too thick to understand that or listen to those that do. That threat is no longer there only Russia as a possibly but unlikely threat to the US so the only reason for the US to have those bases now is to project its power and influence abroad. Europe has the expertise and capability to develop and build its own defence equipment as well as defend itself from Russia something it must do. It can no longer rely on American weapons or NATO with the US as part of it. They need to form a new European alliance or even a EU military with the UK allied to it and all US bases in the UK and Europe closed. At the moment Russia is the only real threat and hopefully after the war in Ukraine has come to an end and Putin has gone relations can be normalised. When I was in the British Army it was about 300,000 strong now it's down to about 75,000 just a quarter of what it was. My father & grandfather were both in the Royal Navy in those days it was the biggest most powerful navy in the world compare that to now. These days I now have one son in the Royal Navy and another in the Royal Marines fortunately none of them are in the Mediterranean (yet).