Mattd

@sniggie as far as I know the rules changed around September last year and apply to all, not just Farangs.

It only becomes an issue when you want to do like you wanted and register a new vehicle in a different province, or when something changes, i.e. ownership or address.

My car was originally purchased on finance and was on Bangkok plates, when I decided to pay off the finance early the issues started, as went to the British embassy and got a residence certificate (at stupid cost, but no choice due to working in Bangkok) at the request of BMW Leasing, this showed my home in Chonburi, when the leasing company tried to register the car fully in my name the DLT refused and basically issued the car with a notice to change the plates to Chonburi within 30 days, the rest I did myself in Chonburi and it was actually surprisingly easy to do, that time I got the residence certificate from Jomtien immigration.

My best guess would be that this was his second 5 year licence, hence from the date issued to expire would look like 10 years, as per example photos earlier in the thread.

The big question is when is the expiry year, as already stated here, the maximum that you can now get is just shy of 6 years, there absolutely is no 10 year validity for Thai driving licences and that is for Thai's never mind for Farangs!!

This link provides info on the how, she would need to have been accepted by a designated learning institution as the first step.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/study-who.asp

3 minutes ago, Nong Khai Man said:

( IF You are Married )

2 hours ago, visatroubles said:

I am not married to my partner

On 2017-5-31 at 2:44 PM, Tbone999 said:

Unfortunately, I've already used the 60day extension. I'll have to see if they'll stamp me in for 30days. too late to do anything now.

If my understanding is correct, you were overseas and therefore were out of the country, if that was the case, then there would have been no reason why you couldn't have got another 60 day extension, as you would have been on a new entry in to Thailand and entitled to apply.

27 minutes ago, BritTim said:

Each time you leave Thailand and are allowed enter Thailand again, at the end of your permission to stay, you are entitled to a one time 60-day extension to visit your Thai spouse. This is true even for a visa exempt entry.

OK, thanks, then that answers a previous post by another member in another topic, thought this was the case, just wasn't sure.

3 minutes ago, BritTim said:

You can only get a single 60-day extension per entry into Thailand.

@BritTim is it one per entry or once only? 

3 minutes ago, Jonmarleesco said:

It might not be called that, but a temporary licence is a provisional licence by another name.

Understand exactly where you are coming from, but the definition of a Provisional Driving licence in the UK is that it gives you provisional entitlement to drive or ride a vehicle, in the case of a driving car, then you must be accompanied by a driver over the age of 21 that has held a full licence for a minimum of 3 years, whilst displaying L plates on the car to show other users that you are learning.

This then means that you learn to drive that car whilst be supervised by a 'competent' driver.

Once you pass both parts of the test, then they issue a full licence.

The difference here is that doesn't exist, the person learns how to drive with no licence, takes a test after minimum training and then gets given a licence that allows them to drive (and hence learn / gain experience) on their own.

Think the difference is that even though it is a temporary licence the holder does not need to have another licensed driver with them after it is issued.

Not really sure of the logic behind it, would make more sense if the holder had to display some sort of plate on the car to show that they have only just qualified to drive.

My son's driving school did take care of all of the test arrangements, provided the car for the physical test etc. The son did have to take the computer test, physical test etc. 

4 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Another western mis-conception imported,  the vehicle's are insured in Thailand by the gov compulsory insurance

You are correct that all vehicles must (in theory) maintain the Government Compulsory Third Party Liability insurance, however the vehicle itself or other vehicles and property is not insured by the CTPL insurance, this only covers bodily injuries, disabilities or death resulting from an accident.

Although this is of course of primary concern, I was also worried about any liability to damage to other vehicles or property etc. so did check with his Mother's insurer in that regard.

Personally I would never consider driving any form of vehicle with only the CTPL insurance as my only cover.

5 minutes ago, TerryLH said:

One concern might be with an insurance company if there was an accident with an unlicensed driver.

This was a big concern of mine and it was checked with his Mother's insurance company, who said that he would be insured if he was with a licensed driver, I'd recommend informing the insurance company prior just to be sure.

24 minutes ago, Knee Jerk Reaction said:

He has probably been using a 10 year visa for the UK issued before the incident involving the death of the policeman.

Which, IF Thailand has indeed revoked his passport, is useless in theory.

As an addition, even if he does have a valid UK visa it doesn't and shouldn't stop the UK from cancelling the visa if they so wished, I do believe that this was done for a certain ex. Prime Minister a few years back.

Lots of posts suggesting incompetent or corrupted UK border officials, but I do not see anything in the story the suggests that he is still in the UK, the picture was an archived one dated 5th April, the full story suggests that the Thai's don't know where he is, probably not true, but certainly doesn't say whether is currently in the UK or not!

I'm sure if has a valid multiple entry UK visa, trouble is, if the Thai's really did revoke his passport, then that would be useless and he would be using one of his other passports from another country.

Well, he just passed his driving test today 2 weeks after his 18th Birthday!

Aside with some driving with his Mother, the main learning was at the ABS Driving School located in, or close to, the Nong Palai area somewhere (Pattaya side of 36), I took him to there last Saturday, what a horrible place to find, but what a surprise it was, it is quite a big concern with loads of cars and a road network inside, including traffic lights, a roundabout, areas to learn how to park etc. I was reasonably impressed!

He did learn with a manual car at my insistence, as it was important to me that he did, might not drive another one for a while, but at least he knows how to now!!!

@BritTim - Fair comments, been too long on extensions and forget the ticket stuff sometimes!

14 minutes ago, Zeka said:

We are still in touch of my previous company, and they were then one who told me that I'm allowed to use. Not even me, but for some also of the employees who left, they allowed us to use the Visa, because we were the One who paid for it, so, they allowed us to use

The assumption is that you were on an extension of stay and NOT a visa, by this, the extension of stay for one year was applied for at an immigration office here in Thailand and not at an embassy overseas, the permission for stay was granted for one year with 90 day reporting, possibly with a re-entry permit for trips in and out of Thailand.

As stated, if this is an extension of stay based on working, which is almost certain, then, regardless of who paid for it, you should have left the country on the day the work permit was cancelled, or at the very least, gone to immigration to apply for another extension, which would have been refused, then you would have been given 7 days to leave the country.

There is every chance that immigration will not know and you will be able depart Thailand with no issues, just do be prepared for the worse case though, that is a 20,000 THB fine and a ban on entering Thailand again for a period of time in line with the overstay.

Your old company was bang out of order letting you stay in these circumstances and putting you at risk.

1 minute ago, Zeka said:

@Mattd yes, that was 12months ago, I left last year, but they allow me to use the Visa. 

They should not have done that, it is not correct at all, if immigration know that you have not been working, then you have one big overstay and potential ban on entering Thailand, not good!

You really have to hope the connection isn't made and your company did not inform immigration.

9 minutes ago, Zeka said:

My previous employer let me use the visa that they just renewed to me before I left the company.

Must admit, a confusing post!

If, as suspected, you are on an extension of stay, then when did you leave the company? If the extension is about to expire and the company renewed this just before you left the company, then this must have been near 12 months ago?

If the extension of stay was based upon working and the company cancelled the work permit when you left (which they should have done, otherwise there are tax issues etc.) then technically you have been staying here on overstay from that point, as the extension became invalidated.

Hopefully you should have no issues departing and re-entering.

20 minutes ago, howard ashoul said:

My second argument was, that if we have children, I want they have Thai name after her mother. Not a farang name. As they would live in Thailand.

Entirely up to you if this is truly what you want, however, I would say it is a bit short sighted though, as to say that they will live in Thailand is making a decision for them and they are not even born yet!

Both of my Children have my surname, they both have dual nationality and could go and live and work in the UK as citizens, one day they might want to, who knows, certainly their choice, not mine.

Having a Farang surname doesn't appear to disadvantage them here in Thailand in anyway shape or form, they also have Farang forenames as well!

Also, I am not sure regarding Thai Law, but if you are registered as the Father on the birth certificate, then they may have to adopt your surname?

To clarify on point 2, no the re-entry permit would only be valid for the initial 60 days, if you extend for 30 days and wanted to keep this valid, then you would need another re-entry permit, however, if you are from a Country that can enter on a 30 day visa exempt, then there would be no point in getting a re-entry permit for the extension period, in fact, there would be little or no point to get one after the first 30 days of the original entry for the same reason, as you would gain nothing.

1 hour ago, colinchaffers said:

They normal use your passport number

The Thai tax ID for all is a string of 13 numbers (to match the Thai identification number system) so if your passport number is less or more then I do not see how that is possible, as all of the forms you fill out etc. require the input of 13 numbers?

My Thai tax ID number begins with a 0 and is 13 digits

The Social Security number begins with a 6 and is 13 digits

The work permit 'alien' number is a 14 digit one and begins with a 1

None of them are the same and none correspond in anyway to any of the passport numbers I've held whilst working here.

On 2017-5-27 at 4:36 PM, ubonjoe said:

My wife had no choice when we registered our marriage since it was before 2002 when they changed the law that said she had to take my family name.

Never been a problem for her. She has bought land and done many other things. She was even the village head for 5 years.

Interestingly, my now ex. wife did not change her surname after we married in June 1999, this despite it being a legal requirement for females to change their surnames to their husbands back then, all of her Government related documentation, i.e. I.D. card, passport etc. also referred to her as 'Miss' and not 'Mrs' and to my knowledge this was never an issue for her up to the divorce in 2015.

Anybody know what the penalty was for not changing pre 2002?

I did try telling her that it meant the marriage was not legal and therefore null and void!!!

In those times, certainly a lot of the Thai women did try to avoid the change, as one point, if they had a Farang surname they were prohibited to own land.

3 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

You can drive with any plates through Thailand, i.e. transfer of ownership is one thing and changing the province of registration (of the car, that is) is another. 

Sorry, but this is no longer true, DLT changed the rules in 2016, the car now HAS to be registered in the Province as per the owner's address, I know this for a fact, as when I paid off the finance on my car it was on BKK plates, to get the Blue book, then I had to change the plates to Chonburi as I was using a Chonburi address.

They would not allow me to use the existing BKK plates with a Chonburi address in the Blue book.

When the ownership changes and the new owner resides in a different province than the car is registered in, then they will be required to re-register the vehicle.

1 minute ago, bkkexplorer said:

They didn't mention it as an option, not saying its not true.

 

I am 99.99% sure it is a viable option and the one used by most, a lot of Foreigners here either cannot be bothered or are not able to get a Yellow Tabien Baan.

Just now, bkkexplorer said:

Besides oldgit's reference, I also made queries to another company and they said they offer this service without quoting the fee of going to the embassy. This is why I'm puzzled. If that is true, then I'm missing something.

I would be surprised and wary if MFA would accept this, there are some MFA approved translation services, not sure if these are allowed to certify a passport as a true copy.