Mattd

Think the difference is that even though it is a temporary licence the holder does not need to have another licensed driver with them after it is issued.

Not really sure of the logic behind it, would make more sense if the holder had to display some sort of plate on the car to show that they have only just qualified to drive.

My son's driving school did take care of all of the test arrangements, provided the car for the physical test etc. The son did have to take the computer test, physical test etc. 

4 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Another western mis-conception imported,  the vehicle's are insured in Thailand by the gov compulsory insurance

You are correct that all vehicles must (in theory) maintain the Government Compulsory Third Party Liability insurance, however the vehicle itself or other vehicles and property is not insured by the CTPL insurance, this only covers bodily injuries, disabilities or death resulting from an accident.

Although this is of course of primary concern, I was also worried about any liability to damage to other vehicles or property etc. so did check with his Mother's insurer in that regard.

Personally I would never consider driving any form of vehicle with only the CTPL insurance as my only cover.

5 minutes ago, TerryLH said:

One concern might be with an insurance company if there was an accident with an unlicensed driver.

This was a big concern of mine and it was checked with his Mother's insurance company, who said that he would be insured if he was with a licensed driver, I'd recommend informing the insurance company prior just to be sure.

24 minutes ago, Knee Jerk Reaction said:

He has probably been using a 10 year visa for the UK issued before the incident involving the death of the policeman.

Which, IF Thailand has indeed revoked his passport, is useless in theory.

As an addition, even if he does have a valid UK visa it doesn't and shouldn't stop the UK from cancelling the visa if they so wished, I do believe that this was done for a certain ex. Prime Minister a few years back.

Lots of posts suggesting incompetent or corrupted UK border officials, but I do not see anything in the story the suggests that he is still in the UK, the picture was an archived one dated 5th April, the full story suggests that the Thai's don't know where he is, probably not true, but certainly doesn't say whether is currently in the UK or not!

I'm sure if has a valid multiple entry UK visa, trouble is, if the Thai's really did revoke his passport, then that would be useless and he would be using one of his other passports from another country.

Well, he just passed his driving test today 2 weeks after his 18th Birthday!

Aside with some driving with his Mother, the main learning was at the ABS Driving School located in, or close to, the Nong Palai area somewhere (Pattaya side of 36), I took him to there last Saturday, what a horrible place to find, but what a surprise it was, it is quite a big concern with loads of cars and a road network inside, including traffic lights, a roundabout, areas to learn how to park etc. I was reasonably impressed!

He did learn with a manual car at my insistence, as it was important to me that he did, might not drive another one for a while, but at least he knows how to now!!!

@BritTim - Fair comments, been too long on extensions and forget the ticket stuff sometimes!

14 minutes ago, Zeka said:

We are still in touch of my previous company, and they were then one who told me that I'm allowed to use. Not even me, but for some also of the employees who left, they allowed us to use the Visa, because we were the One who paid for it, so, they allowed us to use

The assumption is that you were on an extension of stay and NOT a visa, by this, the extension of stay for one year was applied for at an immigration office here in Thailand and not at an embassy overseas, the permission for stay was granted for one year with 90 day reporting, possibly with a re-entry permit for trips in and out of Thailand.

As stated, if this is an extension of stay based on working, which is almost certain, then, regardless of who paid for it, you should have left the country on the day the work permit was cancelled, or at the very least, gone to immigration to apply for another extension, which would have been refused, then you would have been given 7 days to leave the country.

There is every chance that immigration will not know and you will be able depart Thailand with no issues, just do be prepared for the worse case though, that is a 20,000 THB fine and a ban on entering Thailand again for a period of time in line with the overstay.

Your old company was bang out of order letting you stay in these circumstances and putting you at risk.

1 minute ago, Zeka said:

@Mattd yes, that was 12months ago, I left last year, but they allow me to use the Visa. 

They should not have done that, it is not correct at all, if immigration know that you have not been working, then you have one big overstay and potential ban on entering Thailand, not good!

You really have to hope the connection isn't made and your company did not inform immigration.

9 minutes ago, Zeka said:

My previous employer let me use the visa that they just renewed to me before I left the company.

Must admit, a confusing post!

If, as suspected, you are on an extension of stay, then when did you leave the company? If the extension is about to expire and the company renewed this just before you left the company, then this must have been near 12 months ago?

If the extension of stay was based upon working and the company cancelled the work permit when you left (which they should have done, otherwise there are tax issues etc.) then technically you have been staying here on overstay from that point, as the extension became invalidated.

Hopefully you should have no issues departing and re-entering.

20 minutes ago, howard ashoul said:

My second argument was, that if we have children, I want they have Thai name after her mother. Not a farang name. As they would live in Thailand.

Entirely up to you if this is truly what you want, however, I would say it is a bit short sighted though, as to say that they will live in Thailand is making a decision for them and they are not even born yet!

Both of my Children have my surname, they both have dual nationality and could go and live and work in the UK as citizens, one day they might want to, who knows, certainly their choice, not mine.

Having a Farang surname doesn't appear to disadvantage them here in Thailand in anyway shape or form, they also have Farang forenames as well!

Also, I am not sure regarding Thai Law, but if you are registered as the Father on the birth certificate, then they may have to adopt your surname?

To clarify on point 2, no the re-entry permit would only be valid for the initial 60 days, if you extend for 30 days and wanted to keep this valid, then you would need another re-entry permit, however, if you are from a Country that can enter on a 30 day visa exempt, then there would be no point in getting a re-entry permit for the extension period, in fact, there would be little or no point to get one after the first 30 days of the original entry for the same reason, as you would gain nothing.

1 hour ago, colinchaffers said:

They normal use your passport number

The Thai tax ID for all is a string of 13 numbers (to match the Thai identification number system) so if your passport number is less or more then I do not see how that is possible, as all of the forms you fill out etc. require the input of 13 numbers?

My Thai tax ID number begins with a 0 and is 13 digits

The Social Security number begins with a 6 and is 13 digits

The work permit 'alien' number is a 14 digit one and begins with a 1

None of them are the same and none correspond in anyway to any of the passport numbers I've held whilst working here.

On 2017-5-27 at 4:36 PM, ubonjoe said:

My wife had no choice when we registered our marriage since it was before 2002 when they changed the law that said she had to take my family name.

Never been a problem for her. She has bought land and done many other things. She was even the village head for 5 years.

Interestingly, my now ex. wife did not change her surname after we married in June 1999, this despite it being a legal requirement for females to change their surnames to their husbands back then, all of her Government related documentation, i.e. I.D. card, passport etc. also referred to her as 'Miss' and not 'Mrs' and to my knowledge this was never an issue for her up to the divorce in 2015.

Anybody know what the penalty was for not changing pre 2002?

I did try telling her that it meant the marriage was not legal and therefore null and void!!!

In those times, certainly a lot of the Thai women did try to avoid the change, as one point, if they had a Farang surname they were prohibited to own land.

3 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

You can drive with any plates through Thailand, i.e. transfer of ownership is one thing and changing the province of registration (of the car, that is) is another. 

Sorry, but this is no longer true, DLT changed the rules in 2016, the car now HAS to be registered in the Province as per the owner's address, I know this for a fact, as when I paid off the finance on my car it was on BKK plates, to get the Blue book, then I had to change the plates to Chonburi as I was using a Chonburi address.

They would not allow me to use the existing BKK plates with a Chonburi address in the Blue book.

When the ownership changes and the new owner resides in a different province than the car is registered in, then they will be required to re-register the vehicle.

1 minute ago, bkkexplorer said:

They didn't mention it as an option, not saying its not true.

 

I am 99.99% sure it is a viable option and the one used by most, a lot of Foreigners here either cannot be bothered or are not able to get a Yellow Tabien Baan.

Just now, bkkexplorer said:

Besides oldgit's reference, I also made queries to another company and they said they offer this service without quoting the fee of going to the embassy. This is why I'm puzzled. If that is true, then I'm missing something.

I would be surprised and wary if MFA would accept this, there are some MFA approved translation services, not sure if these are allowed to certify a passport as a true copy.

3 minutes ago, bkkexplorer said:

Drivers license dept did not give me that option. This is the one at Nong Chok

Really, that would be a first if it is correct, I've never heard of DLT not accepting a residence certificate from Thai immigration.

1 minute ago, bkkexplorer said:

Not a PR, married to a Thai and on a spouse visa. If there's no choice then so be it, that is really what I want to know. But it puzzles me how a company can offer this service and do it for you without going to the embassy. This doesn't make any sense. 

 

Yes, noted that appointment has to be made.

I think that Oldgit was referring to a translation company going to the Embassy on your behalf.

If it is for a driving licence, then why not do as evadgib suggests, it would be far easier so long as you are making 90 day reports to CW immigration?

Departing Thailand requires clearing immigration for all passengers, Thai or Foreign, if you not in Fast track, then this is done after security, so back down a set of escalators.

You, as a foreigner would have been given a TM6 most likely on the plane and upon arrival the arrival part is retained by immigration and the departure part left in your passport and then retained by immigration at departure, a Thai passport holder is presented the TM.6 at check in and fills in both the departure and arrival parts, immigration retain the departure part and the arrival part is left with their passport for the next arrival in to Thailand.

She should enter AND depart Thailand on her Thai passport, no reason to do anything but, if she came in on her Thai passport and then tried to depart on her US passport, then this would lead to confusion and problems, as there would be no entry in to Thailand recorded on her US passport.

The British Embassy can and does certify British Passport copies and is the only one that MFA will accept.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/notarial-and-documentary-services-guide-for-thailand

OP, if you really need to get a yellow Tabien Baan (As unless you are a PR, then you cannot be entered on to a blue Tabien Baan) then I don't see that you have any choice but to pay for this service from the Embassy, don't forget to make an appointment first as well.

1 minute ago, Pdaz said:

As long as they never discover the demerit points concept I'm happy to pay.

+1 on that!

Announced yesterday, Clock Bar is closed due to circumstances.

21 minutes ago, pumpjack said:

so back to the question.    will airline stop her boarding on way there or way back ?  

Have a look at the thread I linked to, in that the OP did get his wife an Irish visa in the end as it simply less hasle, theoretically she could argue the toss with the Irish immigration reference the EEA rights etc. but it worked out easier just to get the visa and it is mentioned that most airline staff do not know the rules so would most likely insist on seeing a visa, especially returning.