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1 hour ago, sandyf said:

Irrelevant, the OP is not traveling without a valid passport.

As already pointed out, citizenship has not expired and the question is over proof of citizenship not the ability to travel.

If the OP is British by birth then a birth certificate would be the obvious answer, otherwise some other document as an expired passport would not be considered as legal proof.

Sorry but it's not irrelevant at all, Tony M has kindly attached the relevent section from the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999, which clarifies why some airlines are reluctant to carry what might be properly undocumented passengers, carriers are liable for a penalty of £2,000, yes it's still £2,000 Tony, and also the cost of flying the passenger back to their departure point along with cost of any detention which may be deemed necessary if the UKBA refuse to land the passenger.

I have already mentioned that the check-in staff will need to check the status of the passenger, as might the staff en-route, Tony also mentioned that it wouldn't be a problem for the passenger on arrival at the UK Border, but the airline staff might not know that and be ultra cautious.

2 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

No, 'forced' is the correct term.

They made false declarations on their 'affidavits' and 'Stat Decs' and never had the required 65K per month income in the first instance.

Even the British Embassy never checked the completed form of income against the documents you sent as proof.

We'll have to agree to differ.

Nobody forced applicants to allegedy make false declarations to their respective Embassies to allow them them to circumnavigate the rules if they weren't able to meet the requirements, and when that route was closed nobody forces them into the hands of corrupt agents and IO's, in order get their extension of stay.
Life is all about choices, we're not forced to do anything, however you're partially correct by implying that if you choose to circumnavigate the rules the use of a fixer makes it possible.    

36 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

I think the major change is that for US, UK and Australians, they now have to prove they actually transfer that income into Thailand. Some have now been forced to pay extravagant fees to agents as an alternative.

Should that maybe read "Some have now chosen to pay extravagant fees to agents as an alternative"?

Your UK passport is proof of your citizenship and your absolute right to enter the UK unhindered, whilst your passport may have expired your citizenship hasn’t and you can use your expired passport to enter the UK.

At check-in, you should show your Thai passport, assuming the names coincide with the ticket, but be prepared to show them your UK passport proving that you have the right of entry into the UK, they should be aware of the rules but may need to double check, as will the gate staff and any staff if you have a non direct flight.

it is correct that as a British Citizen you cannot be issued with a UK Visa. 

You should clear Thai Immigration using your Thai passport, I’m assuming you entered Thailand using your Thai passport, they will not be concerned about the entry requirements for your destination.

Another option is to buy an Emergency Travel Document from the British Embassy., and whilst it’s an easy option, it might not be required.

Seems they may have suspended flights for another two weeks, the first available flights are showing as 19 February.

This forum is for those seeking advice on visas to other countries, so I’ll close the thread.

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6 minutes ago, sapson said:

This I presume includes UK passport holders returning home.

Yes

3 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Oh, re-read the OP. It says you need the proof BEFORE departure, so how could someone actually land in UK and get fined?

If the carrier doesn't check for compliance of the rule and allows a passenger to fly without proof of a clear test result, then, if the passenger then doesn't have a test result on arrival in the UK they are liable for a fine, as is the carrier for carrying a passenger without the required documentation, as they are already liable for a fine if they carry a visa national who isn't in possession of a valid visa..

12 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

I believe that is for airport fees, sometimes called PFC. Passenger facilities charge. I have heard of Airline staff who train it to Paris to avoid !

Those are charges imposed by indivual airports, and are included in the ticket price but usually itemised, the, considerably higher, APD, also included in the ticket price and itemised, is a Government Tax on all departing passengers, domestic and international. The APD has various bands, the further you fly, the more tax you're charged.
It's not just airline staff that travel to Europe to commence their flight, it has to be a seperate ticket, whereas we used to fly to the UK and usually have a side trip to Europe, we now fly to Europe and have a "side trip" to the UK, the savings are worth while, I suspect we're not alone. 

Just now, Peterw42 said:

Yes, but free is a mattress in a disused army barracks, hardly a comparison.

Of course it's a comparison, it's a matter of choice, and they're not all disused army barracks they do use hotels, my Durch friend was very satisfied with his free Thai accomodation in Phuket.

22 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

How is it dual pricing ? Its the same price for a foreigner or a Thai.

 

I doubt they are making any huge profit after meeting all the ASQ requirements, every 2nd room is empty, covid testing, PPE for staff, extra cleaning, transport etc

It's only the same price for a Thai if they choose to quarantine in an ASQ facility, otherwise it's free.

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The UK Government have confirmed that from 4am on 15 January, they will be introducing pre-departure testing requirements for all inbound passengers to England. Passengers arriving by ship, plane or train will have to take a test up to 3 days before departure and provide evidence of a negative result before they travel.

This is the statement from the Minister confirming the start date and conditions.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/international-travel-update-11-january-2021

12 hours ago, Jofefe said:

Many thanks you all for the help and kind advise.

 

I'll try to change her name to make things easier. If it's not possible I'll show her Thai passport when departing/arriving from/to Thailand and if I find some problem I'll try to explain the situation.

 

Again, many thanks!

Even if you change the names, and the passports, you should still do the process I outlined in my previous post to ensure that the carriers are satisfied that she meets the immigration requirements of the destination country, in both directions. 

She should use her Spanish name to book the tickets.

At check-in in Bangkok she should show that ticket with her Thail passport, along with her Spanish passport, to show that she doesn't need a visa to enter Spain.

On exiting Thailand she should show her Thai passport when she passes through Immigration.

On arrival in Spain she should enter using her Spanish passport, as a Spanish citizen she has an absolute right to enter the country so doesn't need a visa, in fact she shouldn't even be issued one.

On checking in for her return she should check-in using her Thai passport, that shoes the check-in staff that she doesn't need a return ticket to travel from Spain to Thailand,  but exit Schengen Immigration using her Spanish passport, as she entered using that, on arrival in Thailand use her Thai passport.

Sadly there are a lot of people homeless at or near Heathrow, some even sleeping rough at the airport.

I suspect your friend doesn't want to intentionally put himself in that position, even though he could return to the UK if he so wished, I suspect things aren't as bad here as he thinks.

He may find this helpful. https://www.wearetrinity.org.uk/homeless-now/

15 hours ago, Upnotover said:

When they get around to it they will fill in some of the blanks, like what tests they expect, from GOV.UK today;

 

"Permitted travellers will need to take their test up to 72 hours before departure, and this will apply irrespective of whether a country is on the travel corridor list. The government will set out the standards that these tests will need to meet and what proof passengers will need to present."

The full statement from Grant Shapps, as @Upnotoversays, no doubt the full requirements will be published in due course, probably when arriving passengers are in the air.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mandatory-covid-19-testing-introduced-to-bolster-border-measures

19 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I think there is wrong info being posted, you cannot convert a Visitor Visa to. Settlement Visa more so if you are currently in the U.K. If there is any truth can some one post a Gov. U.K. link showing the info ?

There’s certainly no inaccurate information being shared whatsoever, I’ve posted a link to the current advice from the UKBA, and Tony M has mentioned that it was previously permissible to exceptionally apply for Settlement from within the UK, if the applicant was genuinely unable to return home, I provided the link at the time and, like Tony M, I’m aware of a couple of applicants who took advantage of the concession at the time.

@HerbyJFlashwhilst I sympathize with your girlfriends wishes, I suspect that the argument that “if she returned home as planned that getting to see her again might be impossible for you” might not be considered exceptional circumstances, given that there are no travel restrictions for either of you, though there are hoops to jump through, and quarantine on arrival for you both.

Of course it’s not me your girlfriend has to convince, so don’t let me put her off if she wants to chance it.

Whatever next, these hospitals will be charging for carrying out a blood pressure test, weighing you and taking your temperature when you go to have stitches removed.
Many hospitals do seem to routinely charge for, what some would consider, unnecessary procedures as a matter of course. 

@HerbyJFlash This is the current advice from the UKBA, including the option to extend leave in exceptional circumstances, the UKBA will of course be aware that many Thai nationals and Expats return to Thailand every week.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-advice-for-uk-visa-applicants-and-temporary-uk-residents