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3 minutes ago, Proboscis said:

Of course not, and forgive me if you read it that way. And while there is no import duty, there are many other costs. First, there have to be certificate of origin. In a highly specialised piece of engineering, such as a specialised part, what exactly was made in the UK and what was made elsewhere. Good luck with working that out in such as way that it cannot be argued with.

Then there is the description. While with something that is obvious, such as litres of milk, it is clear. When it is a once-off piece of specialized engineering, it is not so clear. Everything still has to be cleared and under the correct description.

This is just touching the surface. But that is what we expect when something as complicated as a wide-ranging trade agreement is rushed through at the last moment.

As everybody, who wants to export to the EU. See taric code info. I presume, somebody knows what he/she wants to export. TARIC Consultation (europa.eu)

Every Brit who can read could have known this consequence of leaving the EU and be a "third country". See the promise of a referendum after the elections of 7 May 2015. 

16 minutes ago, transam said:

I think you have got that the wrong way round chum, since we left the EU, we have all seen the real EU in action, that sort of club just isn't our scene.......????

You mean: since we left the EU all nonsense as spread by Brexiteers, falls into lies, as reality comes up, as the entire world knows already for decades.

1 hour ago, Proboscis said:

The agreement that the UK made with the EU.

 

What this and other conditionality in the agreement mean is that only large consignments of the same stuff (uniform consignments) can be practically sent. So you can send a container of cheeses to one customer but not one cheese to 1,000 customers, as before.

 

The outcome is that only large producers will be able to export. All those specialised companies or small companies, such as those manufacturing specialised engineering parts, will have a lot of trouble and cost.

Veterinarian certification does NOT exist for "specialised engineering parts". Only customs declaration - but for the UK origin, no import duty-  and.. when imported into the EU: V.A.T.  As every import.

3 hours ago, Andy from Kent said:

Spurrell can no longer sell cheese gift boxes worth around 25 pounds to the EU through his online shop because each consignment needs to be accompanied by a health certificate signed off by a vet that costs 180 pounds per consignment, regardless of size.

 

Can't they just hire a vet to be on the company payroll?

 

Again a Brit, who does not have the faintest idea... it is NOT the signature of any vet. An EU appointed vet will take the shipment into a scrutiny.

4 hours ago, transam said:

No it wasn't dismissed by anyone, nobody knew about the new regulation paperwork, we just knew we were free to run our own country. Stop making up stories.... 

These regulations exist since 1958, the start of the EEC. The ONLY problem is, the British believe Genious Boris Cummings, NOT the many, who warned them again and again, and forgot all they should have known, being EU member for 47 years.

4 hours ago, transam said:

Quite right, it's just the beginning of freedom, we look forward to our future with no shackles.... 

And a lot of business = work = income for many British. But.. of course, since the UK applied for the many TRILLIONS economy around the Pacific, all problems for UK businesses are gone.. entire Papua will go to eat... cheddar cheese..

1 minute ago, onebir said:

1) You tell me, since you've been involved in the business since 1977!

2) Me neither, seems like a bad mistake on the company's part (unless maybe UK vets are really greedy?).

YOU can do an inspection for less ? Of course, with a certificate valid for the EU...

For the rest... simply ask any seafood, or poultry exporter to the EU in Thailand... same "third country" rules.

22 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

So whose rules say that each consignment of his cheese needs a £180 vet's certificate?

 

The UK or the EU?

As everybody in the entire world in business knows, already for decades: all dairy, so inclusive cheese, all meat, all fish, all eggs, coming from "third countries" need a veterinary check by the EU. Whether you have a 30 tons shipment or a 30 gram shipment ( in a sandwich). Why so many British manufacturers, after 47 years EU membership, and 4 1/2 years after the Brexit referendum still do not know ?  So, simple solution, as every tradesman do: send a full truck to a warehouse inside the EU and organize the distribution inside the EU from that EU warehouse. Why Boris and his genious did not include that in his EU treaty ?

4 hours ago, Nout said:

More anti Brexit propaganda. Where's the headline: "EUROPEAN POLITICAL UNION VACCINE FAILURE"...

The UK, 2 months after Italy, has per million inhabitants the most corona casualties, thanks to completely ignoring + happy handshake program of Boris.

And these vaccins.. were semi-stolen by the British from Puuls in B as the more conscious EU did not approve them yet. 

7 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

Yes, I have seen at least one newspaper now has been saying that more than 20 years - how the EU is doomed - it will soon fall apart and end... yet it is still here... and the UK is getting smaller (Northern Ireland and Gibraltar and possibly in the future Scotland).  So which union is more fragile?

7 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

Yes, I have seen at least one newspaper now has been saying that more than 20 years - how the EU is doomed - it will soon fall apart and end... yet it is still here... and the UK is getting smaller (Northern Ireland and Gibraltar and possibly in the future Scotland).  So which union is more fragile?

\According the Daily Fail, the EU will crumble  shortly. Unfortunately other - British - survey promise differently.

Eur social survey member EU.webp

7 hours ago, bannork said:

Time will tell. I believe we will rejoin in a few years, realizing the dreadful error we made.

"we will join"? You mean: we will apply again, and are then to the mercy of 27 EU member states if they want to take the risk to embrace such a (new) member again... I can imagine, that many of these "unelected bureaucrats" will not be in a rush...

8 hours ago, Poet said:

The EU is requiring paperwork that no other country or trading bloc has ever required. It is clearly a punitive tactic. Bureaucracy as a weapon. No amount of education could have prepared traders for that.

You really do not have the faintest idea about customs declarations, not how simple it is to learn it. But, when the British ignored it since 2016... do not be astonished when all ends up in a failure. A British failure.

8 hours ago, Poet said:

Doesn't change the fact that the red tape in question is EU red tape. These firms are exporting, not importing. The EU could have chosen not to punish the UK in this way, and is clearly doing so to dissuade other countries from leaving.

Seamless internal trade was fine, but increasingly came with restrictions and obligations ,that limited the UK's autonomy in other areas, including external trade. This was removing existing rights of UK citizens and, so, had to be put to a vote at some stage.

If the EU had remained the common market it was originally presented as, and that the British people originally voted for, 99% of people would have continued supporting it.

The lining up to get INTO the UK is a lot longer than INTO the EU. the red tape, but especially the incompetence at British side is gigantic

8 hours ago, Poet said:

Doesn't change the fact that the red tape in question is EU red tape. These firms are exporting, not importing. The EU could have chosen not to punish the UK in this way, and is clearly doing so to dissuade other countries from leaving.

Seamless internal trade was fine, but increasingly came with restrictions and obligations ,that limited the UK's autonomy in other areas, including external trade. This was removing existing rights of UK citizens and, so, had to be put to a vote at some stage.

If the EU had remained the common market it was originally presented as, and that the British people originally voted for, 99% of people would have continued supporting it.

The lining up to get INTO the UK is a lot longer than INTO the EU. the red tape, but especially the incompetence at British side is gigantic

Truckers Shun U.K. Ports to Avoid Brexit Red Tape - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

8 hours ago, Poet said:

Doesn't change the fact that the red tape in question is EU red tape. These firms are exporting, not importing. The EU could have chosen not to punish the UK in this way, and is clearly doing so to dissuade other countries from leaving.

Seamless internal trade was fine, but increasingly came with restrictions and obligations ,that limited the UK's autonomy in other areas, including external trade. This was removing existing rights of UK citizens and, so, had to be put to a vote at some stage.

If the EU had remained the common market it was originally presented as, and that the British people originally voted for, 99% of people would have continued supporting it.

The lining up to get INTO the UK is a lot longer than INTO the EU. the red tape, but especially the incompetence at British side is gigantic

Truckers Shun U.K. Ports to Avoid Brexit Red Tape - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

7 hours ago, Poet said:

Doesn't change the fact that the red tape in question is EU red tape. These firms are exporting, not importing. The EU could have chosen not to punish the UK in this way, and is clearly doing so to dissuade other countries from leaving.

Seamless internal trade was fine, but increasingly came with restrictions and obligations ,that limited the UK's autonomy in other areas, including external trade. This was removing existing rights of UK citizens and, so, had to be put to a vote at some stage.

If the EU had remained the common market it was originally presented as, and that the British people originally voted for, 99% of people would have continued supporting it.

The lining up to get INTO the UK is a lot longer than INTO the EU. the red tape, but especially the incompetence at British side is gigantic

Truckers Shun U.K. Ports to Avoid Brexit Red Tape - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

7 hours ago, 2530Ubon said:

Over simplifying things doesn't make a good point - It's lazy and shows a complete disregard for the truth - and shows your brexiteer colors! There are a multitude of new regulations to go through, and a LOT of money has been added to the cost of our goods.

 

 

 

Dairy produce now needs a vet to sign an EU Export Health Certificate for each shipment and there is also new paperwork and requirements for organic products. These all cost money, and time.

 

The freight shipping industry needs to move fast - there are perishible goods on board! When your shipments have to have a ton of paperwork ready and checks on those goods, then of course the industry is going to suffer and slow down.

As everybody on this planet knows, and doing it for decades, except.. the British.

8 hours ago, grumpy 4680 said:

The EU deliberately made things difficult for the UK, yet they were the first to jump in over the Covid vaccine, breaking the rules in the process. UK firms had plenty of time to make alternative arrangements, but didn't. It's time to hit back, Don't import from the crooked EU.

Import regulations from all over the world into the E are exactly the same. The only problem with the UK is, they forgot all of this, and thought - seen the promises of Boris - it would be all easy to the EU and the world would beg for UK products.