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On 12/25/2020 at 5:15 AM, Surelynot said:
So if 48% of the UK population vote for Boris .......Boris is only popular with the people who like him?
No, only the alternative was disliked more
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21 minutes ago, bartender100 said:But the Scots would have zero chance of joining the EU if they applied as a country
Why ? Just an acceptance of 27 EU member states.
Or.. as member of the Gaelic (con)federation, with Eire and Ulster + maybe Wales. Just as Belgium now. Than zero discussion.
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13 minutes ago, robblok said:Of course first thing he did was congratulating himself. Declaring victory while is still shackled to the EU for the fair playing field. Fishing is a different story he just has to endure for 5 years and then he can negotiate again and this time he has the power. Still far from the victory he declared.
Still the EU has lost on fishing.
Till now, 80% of the British catch was exported to the EU, as quite some fish the British hardly eat, like herring, mackerel.
Only slight minor detail: to import, first a veterinarian check, inclusive an EU fish allowance number.
As far as I know, NO BRITISH fish processor applied for such an EU allowance number. Ask the Thai fish exporters.
Or in other words: be happy with a catch allowance, your inland customers hardly eat, and no possibility to export it to the former consumers.
Conclusion: in 6 months quite some British fishermen are bankrupt. Curious, how the Scots will react, whet Sturgeon won next election with an ever larger majority.
Ach. who cares, details, details details...
EU import conditions for seafood and other fishery products
EU import conditions for seafood and other fishery products The European Union (EU) is by far the world’s biggest importer of fish, seafood and aquaculture products. Import rules for these products are harmonised, meaning that the same rules apply in all EU countries. On behalf of all EU Member States, the
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30 minutes ago, tebee said:Of course, not, he got the simplified version, written in crayon, with lots of pretty pictures......
For Boris they let all."details, details and details" away, and it therefore only mention""Brexit is done, we are back in control",.. Boris is the winner. ( with thanks to Jos Collignon , cartoonist)
Only for those pensionado's with houses in Spain, Portugal, France etc... it will be a nasty one: 90 days in, 90 days off. Curious what they now think, as I understand they massively supported Brexit.
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19 hours ago, luckyluke said:The system is, we vote for the members of the E.U. parliament.
They vote for the different presidents.
I believe everywhere people vote for representatives, and it stop there.
Only in Switzerland there is a referendum for every important decision, there it is really the people who decide.
NO!
We have three seperate powers.
a) The EU council, existing of the heads of government of all EU member states, with a president elected by these members, and should be a former head of state of a EU member state
b) the EU committee, a kind of EXECUTIVE board, with one member of each EU member state, with as president a person promoted by the EU Council, for which the EU parliament has a veto right. The last election the EU Parliament tried to push forward a preferent candidate for the president ( Spitzenkandidat) of the EU Committee, but this failed completely.
c) The EU parliament with members elected per EU member state.
I advise you to read on wiki the real definitions. After so many years, this should be common sense.
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14 hours ago, overherebc said:
It's been agreed that visas will not be needed for UK passport holders to visit the EU, but they will be limited to 90 days in any 180 days or 6 months.
So is it going to be similar to a few years ago here where the IO has to check all the stamps and add up the days etc or rely on a computer system that will start a green/amber/red flag system on screen.
Or maybe you will stick your passport in the auto gate and a big flashing sign will light up with
'NO ENTRY, GO BACK HOME'
????????
Nice idea for all the pensionarios having an own property in... Spain, Portugal, France etc.
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14 hours ago, JonnyF said:How do you vote for the EU Commission? They are the ones that initiate EU laws.
Or is Belgium not subject to EU law?
Do you vote for... the government employees, who work at every ministries ? The management of the Bank of England ? The Olympic Committe ? The Fifa ? Or even the UN representatives ?
Remind: the EU is an Union of Nations, NOT a country, NOT a representation of the citizens. Pity, you British did not learn that in the nearly 60 years as member state.
Therefore, the real decision body is the EU council, consisting of the heads of government of the EU m,ember states, like... the PM of the UK.
Then we have an EXECUTIVE board, with one appointee - a kind of minister- by each of the EU member states, with as present president Mrs Ursula von der Leyen, who may come with suggestions, even draft laws and draft trade agreements as now between the UK and the EU, under the framework given by the EU Council, and may EXECUTE the laws and agreements accepted by the EU council and ratified by the EU parliament, but that's about it.
In other EU countries, we vote for a party, seen their program, and give a mandate to that party to do the best for the whole country. They also have a mandate, to give a task to the best person they can find, like.. a Frenchman, Mr Barrier, to negotiate with ... the UK.
In the UK, you vote for a person, being the representative of a party in that constituency, and who gets just one vote more than the other candidates, get THAT seat. The rest get nothing. That person is dependent on winning again the most votes, so.. will her/his utmost for the constituency, the hack the best for the nation. So, 50%+1 seats, gathered by 1 vote more as the others in the same barony/constituency, you in the UK from the House of Commons, out of which the winning party forms a government. The others, who might win the popular vote by far.. get nothing. Out of the elected, wise of as stupid as an ash, specialist or just an amateur, the ministers and negotiators are elected again.
The second House of Scrutiny, the House of Lords, is appointed.
They call that "British Democracy".
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31 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:
The other question that needs answering is how much of the catch does the UK actually eat, and how much of it is shipped to the EU market. i.e. if there was no deal with the EU on fishing, how much of that fish would rot on the docks or get transformed into processed fish (at a much lower market value overall).
About 80% is exported to the EU.
All fish imports into the EU MUST be accompanied with a certificate under the EU fish allowances. Without.. forget it. Ask all Thai, Vietnamese etc fish + shrimp +.. exporters to the EU. Also how long it lasts till they got it...
Without this, the UK fishery industry will be bankrupt in 6 months.
"details, details, details"
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14 minutes ago, david555 said:
Maybe this can enlighten some more about the deal
I donot see anything about agricultural levies, the KILL for every fresh fish, meat and dairy, wheat + sugar holding foods ( = confectionary, cookies) . This "protected" the EU for decades against imports of these products.
"details, details, details"
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9 hours ago, Hi from France said:Ok but still look at the UE summary p2
there are things missing, maybe we should look a this ?
When you do not pay for your membership, you also will not get the advantages.
So, in my fields, food & fast moving consumer goods:
No CE ( = EU approval of electric devices, sports goods, toys), no RASFF ( means: all "sub-standard" foods quickly can be exported to the UK, as no early warning system anymore, back to the 70's ), NO EFSA, no mutual recognition of food safety inspections (FSA, BRC) , no EU fish allowance ( bye bye UK fresh foods export, as no fish nor meat nor diary exporter got these allowances. Maybe in a 6 month... but then many will be bankrupt before.
Boris the Liar would say..."detail, details, details... "
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2 hours ago, Opl said:
"Dieu est mon droit"
"Honi soit qui mal y pense"
When you donot know French,.. ok, but that you are not even able to copy 4 words without a mistake ...
"Dieu est mon droit"... No: "dieu et mon droit" means in English: "God and my right".
see Dieu et mon droit - Wikipedia
There must be another joke in, as I donot understand the second part ???? ""Honi soit qui mal y pense" sorry, my French is not so good) Honi soit qui mal y pense - Wikipedia.
In current French usage, the phrase may be used ironically to insinuate the presence of a hidden agenda or a conflict of interest.
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2 hours ago, Susco said:
Germany and France are both countries with a a lot of power in the world, because they have grown and developed in a way most other countries haven't.
And that is something the Brits never could digest, because they are now only a shadow of the empire they once were
A SHADOW of an EMPIRE... They wish it was so much...
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2 hours ago, JonnyF said:
When a Lion speaks to a Duck, he doesn't quack.
Which lion ? That old flee-skin in London ?
The advantage of learning a few languages also gives you a better listening skills. Second, it gives you the opportunity to learn and experience other cultures a lot better. These both so many British lack.
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4 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:
It was explained that those were not lies , it was peoples lack of understanding English that was the problem .
People who didnt know what "could" means , thought those slogans were lies .
People who speak English fluently know the difference between a promise and a prediction
So, next negotiations in German, French or another EU member country's language
As a London trader told me
when you know two languages, you are bilingual
with 3, you are triple lingual
with 4.. you are en genius
with just only one... you are British
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1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:
It will mean the Dutch and everyone will be paying more. Even if the UK gives a bit on fish eventually and we have given it away for 40 plus years, it will be in total UK hands. No wonder the foreigners are up in arms.
If Charles de Gaulle had any gonads, he wouldn't have let his country be overtaken by the Germans and why are the Dutch so happy as they were decimated by the Germans. So short memories.
So hardly a national figure to be proud off and one to justify your feeble point.
So you mention him as someone to listen too. He is a national disgrace in many peoples eyes.
a) The British ran away, the French suffered over 100.000 deads in these few weeks.
b) The Import duty, but especially agricultural levies will bring a lot more to the EU that the membershop contribution of the British.
But most of all: a LOT of UK business is already replaced by EU goods to avoid the risk of not being supplied just-in-time. See the demonstration now in Kent and any other UK port.
But.. maybe.. the EU will think over a rejoin, when under King George VII it will be asked.
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2 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:
I have a feeling that Boris and European commission President Ursula Von Der Leyen are going to announce their engagement with a Summer weeding .
"After being together four years , we have decided to make our relationship official , he visits as often as he can and phones me most nights . We will have a April Wedding, because our babies due in May"
That is wife nr ? and Child nr ? ? for Boris
He is as loyal as... a Boris the Liar.
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3 hours ago, JonnyF said:
I heard a last minute hitch on fishing. Macron probably moving the goalposts at the last minute again.
I'm more concerned about level playing field provisions personally.
Never ever one "goalpost" is been moved by a nanometer by any of the EU. The conditions asked were exactly the same as just after the referendum.
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2 hours ago, nauseus said:
And were in all decision bodies unlike any other EU member state because UK interests and votes were outvoted by the continental coalition majority almost every time, while the vetoes disappeared at a rapid rate, to be decided by QMV.
I agree about Charles de Gaulle. A pity he did not live to 126.
When you are NOT satisfied in any organisation: LEAVE.
But do NOT ask to play at their fields or park at their promises again.
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18 hours ago, evadgib said:
Ask why the English did not show up with a 10.000 fast corona tests. Problem could have been solved 24 h ago.
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18 hours ago, RuamRudy said:
Brexit was about taking back control of our borders, yet France can close theirs without a Frexit? How can that be?
Not only the French borders, but MANY ! Maybe too difficult for the British tabloids to understand ?
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19 hours ago, fishtank said:
Macron making new friends by the day.
Yes, the 65 million French alone + B + NL+ he tries to protect from the English covid-strains.
Just send in the French, Belgium and Dutch army in with fast Covid-tests to get our truckers away there.
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18 hours ago, ourmanflint said:
Fishing is the last apparent sticking point, from what I have read, the UK want a reduction in EU access to UK waters of 80%, whereas the French, Spanish and Danish do not want to lose anything, ie they want 0% loss.
Rumours are circling that a compromise of around 35% reduction may be agreed by both sides but the French from what I understand are less than happy about this.
The British want a 100% acces to the EU markets, for all, without any influence of EU law makers nor courts.
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7 hours ago, nauseus said:
Hopeful optimism but no actual promises or guarantees of any trade deal (can, can, should, could, could). Also remember that May was farting about for 3 years.
Their real mistake was to forget and underestimate the inherent arrogance and influence of the executive of this club, which we were unfortunate enough to get pushed into nearly 50 years ago.
And were in all decision bodies like any other EU member state as PM of the UK, UK commissioner or UK members of the EU parliament. The problem is the English again thought to bring British Raj to Europe.
Pity, we did not listen better to Charles de Gaulle.
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17 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:Who again made the big promises and failed? Not the EU. Not France. Not the remainers. Not any foreigners. ????
Six of a lot more biggest ( British) lyers ever.
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